Police Video of Motorcyclist Shooting

actually just punishment would be to make white and mccloskey roomates, with white having to take care of his victim for the rest of his life.

Yes, even for a year,if it were supervised to make sure the victim was properly cared for. A year can seem like a lifetime when caring for someone with many needs. I wonder if he'd make it, or kill himself. Morbidly interesting.

I hope you're wrong, but the "not guilty" plea seems to back your opinion.

Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 05/11/2010 04:36 PM

Yes.

He may not have as easy a time getting out of it as he thinks. There was a witness. Another officer. Hopefully, this officer is testifying because he's of higher moral standing than the shooter, rather than in-house politics to "save face."



Officers rarely testify against other officers, but in this case the prosecutors say there's one who's very critical of White's actions. The witness who is an officer will testify in the trial.
[link to abclocal.go.com]

Injusticeeverywhere dot com

rogue cop went Hollywood

wtf is wrong with your police force? Around here they can shoot criminals only when pointed with gun. And they try to go for legs.
-jf

time the cowards are reigned in...it is getting out of hand and has for many years...too many head shots on the not guilty...and even for many guilty of non violent crimes are handled violently

while murderers WALK due to incompetence


that is the truth...

disgusting

This kind of stuff must stop. I don't advocate violence but at this point, with the way the criminals in blue are killing the people, we must defend ourselves. Life in prison for this criminal in blue would be appropriate. That, after giving him to a biker gang for an afternoon. I watched the video and I am furious.

WTSHTF the criminals in blue will get what they deserve from the people of this land.

Cops should find some of those 1000cc bike riders and recruit them to chase down other bikes cuz they have huge balls to be riding those things on the streets.

the US was like that about 50 years ago. but when the police force turned from protection to (state)enforcement, the ceased to be responsible for civilians' lives.

Cop needs to do hard time.
He will get the death penalty if they put him where he belongs.
If he shot my brother in the back, I'd be praying they release him.

Keep suing the fuck out of these corrupt government officials. Starve the beast!

Speeding crotch rocket asshole had it comin.

He was on a Harley you stupid fuck nut or can't you hear too well?

And nobody deserves that, not even a dirty ass no helmet wearing squid Harley rider.

Here is a link for you retards that still think it was a crotch rocket.

[link to abclocal.go.com]

Last Edited by FatalWishes on 05/11/2010 07:07 PM

Until the police chiefs and sheriffs start declaring that they are firing and filing criminal charges against such acts, the thugs with badges will continue this egregious behavior.

The police wonder why they have no respect, it's this constant excessive force and abuse of authority. And because the higher ups ALWAYS cover up the crimes and say it was justified that have the people at the boiling point.

i think we need to bring back public executions for fucks that do shit like this.

If this guy gets sentenced to a prison term doe's anybody really believe he'll survive his term? "Maybe" if he turns into a transvestite and gives good head...

I think you're right.

All law enforcement are familiar with the term, "Thin Blue Line." It represents the barrier that stands between citizens and chaos.

Citizens also have a thin line. It has no color because it's invisible. It represents the difference between being law abiding, taking the law into our own hands, and self defense.

It's up to law enforcement as to when and where that invisible line snaps. It's stretched very thin right now.

Thank you to all who contributed to the thread. It will be updated when the jury decides whether this cop is guilty, or innocent.

Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 05/11/2010 08:41 PM

During his trial, Thomas White said he shot Mr. McCloskey because he feared for his life.

Mr. White said he yelled for him to raise his hands, and Mr. McCloskey appeared to be reaching for a weapon.

Officer Sargent, who worked with Mr. White on the night of the shooting, testified that he had worked with Thomas White since 2004 said he believed Mr. White to be a "very good," police officer. His concern was that he was "in the line of fire" when Mr. White fired his gun.

Officer Sargent also testified that after the incident, when he asked Mr. White if he needed anything, he declined, but said he wanted it off his chest. "He said he hoped that he hadn't made a mistake and that he didn't end up in jail."

Officer Sargent also said, "It's a split-second decision and in his opinion, as a trained police officer, justified."

Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 05/15/2010 09:11 AM

A law enforcement consultant from Florida, W. Ken Katsaris, testified in the trial of Thomas White.

Mr. Katsaris testified that he saw only one traffic violation on the video, when he sped up, and that he saw no indicators that would "cause concern to an officer."

Mr. Katsaris also testified that Mr. White violated protocol by not turning off his siren so that Mr. McCloskey could hear.

Mr. Katsaris said that the movement Mr. McCloskey made when he turned around was an "inquiry glance," and not a threatening movement, as Mr. White had testified.

After being repeatedly reminded that they could not consider what had happened with "20/20 vision of hindsight," but to only consider what Mr. White knew and saw and felt at that moment, jurors were dismissed to deliberate.

Last Edited by Nine's - IN MEMORIAM on 05/15/2010 09:13 AM

After six hours the jury reached it's decision. Thomas White was found guilty:

Article published May 15, 2010
Ottawa Hills policeman convicted of assault in shooting

By JENNIFER FEEHAN
and CARL RYAN
BLADE STAFF WRITERS

A jury Friday night found an Ottawa Hills police officer guilty of felonious assault for shooting a motorcyclist in the back during a traffic stop.

The Lucas County Common Pleas Court jury reached its decision six hours after beginning deliberations in the case of Thomas White, 27, who was indicted on one count of felonious assault with a firearms specification for the May 23, 2009, shooting of Michael McCloskey, Jr.

Officer White, standing next to his attorney, Jerry Phillips, showed no emotion as the verdict was read.

more at link:
[link to www.toledoblade.com]

I haven't found the details of whether or not Mr. White remains free until his sentencing on June 21.

Thomas White was found guilty last night. He will be sentenced on June 21.



[link to www.toledoblade.com]

Ottawa Hills police officer guilty in traffic-stop shooting

Article published May 14, 2010

A jury found an Ottawa Hills police officer guilty Friday night of felonious assault with a firearms specification for a shooting during a traffic stop last year.

The case went to the jury on the fourth day of Officer Thomas White's trial for felonious assault with a firearms specification in the shooting of Michael McCloskey, Jr.

I'm usually the first to shout "dirty cops", but honestly, I think this is justified. Because if you take into account that the two bikers fled at a high rate of speed, then notice that the biker who stops has his hands down like he could be reaching for a gun, and he's looking back over his shoulder at the cop. If I was a cop, and this biker failed to show me his hands like that, for so long, after aggressively speeding away to evade me, I'd probably have shot him too. Put yourself in the cop's shoes. He probably hated to have to do that, but it was to protect his own life.

The difference may lie between whether or not they were fleeing, or simply taking off at a high rate of speed.

Mr. White testified that he shouted for the motorcyclist to raise his hands. A 40 yr. police veteran, Mr. Katsaris, said the words Mr. White shouted were, "get down."

Either would have been difficult to do in a split second on a motorcycle, even if the motorcyclist could have heard the order over the sound of the siren.

Get your facts straight. Watch the video again, and also learn the facts of the case before any more stupid comments.

Youve got your facts incorrect, and the jury has already decided on it. The case is very clear.


Not only did 1-officer White have no reason whatsoever to shoot,
2-he also no reason to even pull his gun on McCloskey,
and 3-he even no reason to pull them over in the first place.

As far as your comment that they "fled", they never fled at all. As soon as he turned his lights/siren on, McCloskey came to a stop. So your most basic assumption is absolutely incorrect

So in what way whatsoever can you say that this felonious assault was 'justified' (in disagreement with the court I might add)?

answer: none; and you are a dangerous idiot if you ever have a firearm in your possession.

McCloskey stopped and waited for the officer as ANYONE would. This could have happened to ANYONE of us. McCloskey did nothing wrong in relation to how the incident and shooting transpired. Officer White was 100% at fault.

The officer screwed up in a number of respects and screwed up very badly.

1000 lives in prison for the cop

life of a cop worth nothing!
so what the fuck he was to protect
just saying

Damn that cop needs to recruited by the Feds to be one of their snipers.