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Check these out and then put 2 and 2 together. The freaking Gulf of Mexico is going to collapse, turn acidic, or catch on fire.


The bubbles are methane, not air: [link to video.foxnews.com]


This could happen to the floor of the gulf: [link to boingboing.net]


[link to marine.usgs.gov]



[link to en.wikipedia.org]



[link to www.ehow.com]



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[link to theobligatescientist.blogspot.com]



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[link to www.youtube.com]



[link to www.newscientist.com]


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[link to www.emeraldecocity.com]


[link to www.killerinourmidst.com]


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Methane oxidation

Methane readily combines with what is called the hydroxyl ion (OH^­). An ion is an electrically charged particle. Sometimes the term simply refers to an atom with a charge; at others, to a molecule, which is composed of more than one atom. Ions are typically indicated by the electrical charges they possess. Thus, a hydrogen ion has a positive charge, and is indicated as H^+, whereas an oxygen ion has two negative charges, and is represented as O^=. When a hydrogen ion combines with an oxygen ion, the hydrogen's positive charge is neutralized by one of oxygen's negative charges, producing the hydroxyl ion, OH^­.

The hydroxyl ion is produced by the breakup of a water molecule:
H¸2O Æ H^+ + OH^­
(water) (yields) (hydrogen ion) + (hydroxyl ion),
or by the splitting of a peroxide molecule, H¸2O¸2.

Methane is destroyed by chemical combining with hydroxyl ions. The chemical equation for this reaction is:
CH¸4 + OH^­ Æ CH¸3^­ + H¸2O
(methane) + (hydroxyl ion) (yields) (methyl ion) + (water)
The carbon from the methyl ion, after several intermediate steps, becomes the carbon in the end product carbon dioxide. One of these intermediate steps occurs after the the methyl ion (CH¸3^­) is oxidized to carbon monoxide (CO):
OH^­ + CO Æ CO¸2 + H^+
(hydroxyl ion) + (carbon monoxide) (yields) (carbon dioxide) + (hydrogen ion)
Note that this reaction, like the previous one, consumes a hydroxyl ion.

The overall, simplified equation (deleting the intermediate steps) is:
CH¸4 + 2O¸2 Æ CO¸2 + 2H¸2O
(methane) + (oxygen) (yields) (carbon dioxide) + (water)

This chemical process is called oxidation not because oxygen is involved, but rather because the oxygen picks up ("accepts") negative charges (specifically, electrons) from the methane. (In other oxidation reactions, other substances, such as sulfur, may pick up negative charges. Thus, no oxygen need be involved. Sorry, scientific terminology is sometimes inexcusably confusing!)

The main, and almost exclusive, process by which methane is destroyed in the atmosphere is via oxidation by hydroxyl. Consequently, as the oxidation of methane proceeds, hydroxyl ions are consumed. As atmospheric methane increases, it therefore slowly depletes the amount of hydroxyl available, because the steady rate of hydroxyl production is outpaced by the methane increase. This has important consequences for atmospheric chemistry. With fewer and fewer hydroxyl ions in the atmosphere, less and less methane can be consumed. That is, in fact, what is currently happening. Additional methane in the atmosphere, of course, leads to even greater consumption of hydroxyl ions.

The concentrations of other atmospheric gases are also affected. Hydroxyl ions, as noted above, also remove carbon monoxide, which may be from either natural sources (largely the oxidation of methane) or industrial sources (which are increasing the amount of carbon monoxide). The ions also react with several other gases, both from natural and industrial sources. Among them is hydrogen sulfide (H¸2S), which can chemically combine with hydroxyl to form sulfuric acid (H¸2SO¸4).

Fewer hydroxyl ions, therefore, may mean a more acidic atmosphere. And sulfuric acid is not the only acid that may increase as a result of lower hydroxyl ion availability. More methane may result in more chemical reactions with chlorine, producing hydrogen chloride, that is, hydrochloric acid (HCl). Increasing methane concentrations in the atmosphere, consequently, can produce significant changes in atmospheric chemistry, some of which can be projected, others which are as yet unknown, and still others which can impact the level of ozone, our protection against deadly ultraviolet light (Sze, 1977).

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[link to www.emeraldecocity.com]

Ok, I took all the text out so it wasn't so freaking overwhelming....

But go read this page, for real! Crazy shit.

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among a myriad of other things, all devastating.
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Too long whatever
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Perfect solution for the Global warming freeks
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One of the possible causes of the great dying - (4) A gigantic oceanic methane release, which may have caused a spectacular 1,000+ degree F transient-spike worldwide
atmospheric combustion event (conceptually similar to a massive sewer gas explosion). Even if the atmosphere did not ignite worldwide, a huge oceanic methane greenhouse-gas release could raise Earth's temperature a deadly ten degrees over a matter of years, which would be added to the global warming effect of huge volcanic CO2 greenhouse gas emissions.
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Perfect solution for the Global warming freeks
+1
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Not a anthropogenic global warming believer.

However, you HAVE to read the second post, PLEASE. I know it's long but it is really important!!!
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This was written long before the gulf oil rig... and basically explains how a massive methane leak could literally ignite the ocean floor and/or atmosphere!
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October 2008, Patrick Charles (former Professor at the Geological Institute of Havana) stated that “conditions are ripe for major seismic activity in Port-au-Prince. The inhabitants of the Haitian capital need to prepare themselves for an event which will inevitably occur . . . science has provided instruments that help predict these types of events and show how we have arrived at these conclusions.” His predictions were based on the fact that Port-au-Prince sits on a large fault line, part of the Enriquillo Fault Zone, which begins in Petionville and ends at Tiburon. The North American tectonic plate is moving in the opposite direction as the Caribbean plate, which creates the Caribbean island (mountain tops).

Professor Charles correctly predicted that the tremors felt in Petionville, Delmas, Croix des Bouquets, and La Plaine in 2008
were signs of something much larger to come. He accurately predicted well in advance that an earthquake of 7.2 or more
would soon devastate Haiti’s capital with catastrophic consequences.
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IF an earthquake or volcano were to split open a giant dome containing an enormous amount of methane (anywhere on Earth),
it could cause our atmosphere to explode. Just like many other scientific predictions, we expect the vast majority to ignore the geologically-documented scientific methane-extinction event possibility.

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Too long whatever
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One word....WORMWOOD!
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Methane oxidation

Methane readily combines with what is called the hydroxyl ion (OH^­). An ion is an electrically charged particle. Sometimes the term simply refers to an atom with a charge; at others, to a molecule, which is composed of more than one atom. Ions are typically indicated by the electrical charges they possess. Thus, a hydrogen ion has a positive charge, and is indicated as H^+, whereas an oxygen ion has two negative charges, and is represented as O^=. When a hydrogen ion combines with an oxygen ion, the hydrogen's positive charge is neutralized by one of oxygen's negative charges, producing the hydroxyl ion, OH^­.

The hydroxyl ion is produced by the breakup of a water molecule:
H¸2O Æ H^+ + OH^­
(water) (yields) (hydrogen ion) + (hydroxyl ion),
or by the splitting of a peroxide molecule, H¸2O¸2.

Methane is destroyed by chemical combining with hydroxyl ions. The chemical equation for this reaction is:
CH¸4 + OH^­ Æ CH¸3^­ + H¸2O
(methane) + (hydroxyl ion) (yields) (methyl ion) + (water)
The carbon from the methyl ion, after several intermediate steps, becomes the carbon in the end product carbon dioxide. One of these intermediate steps occurs after the the methyl ion (CH¸3^­) is oxidized to carbon monoxide (CO):
OH^­ + CO Æ CO¸2 + H^+
(hydroxyl ion) + (carbon monoxide) (yields) (carbon dioxide) + (hydrogen ion)
Note that this reaction, like the previous one, consumes a hydroxyl ion.

The overall, simplified equation (deleting the intermediate steps) is:
CH¸4 + 2O¸2 Æ CO¸2 + 2H¸2O
(methane) + (oxygen) (yields) (carbon dioxide) + (water)

This chemical process is called oxidation not because oxygen is involved, but rather because the oxygen picks up ("accepts") negative charges (specifically, electrons) from the methane. (In other oxidation reactions, other substances, such as sulfur, may pick up negative charges. Thus, no oxygen need be involved. Sorry, scientific terminology is sometimes inexcusably confusing!)

The main, and almost exclusive, process by which methane is destroyed in the atmosphere is via oxidation by hydroxyl. Consequently, as the oxidation of methane proceeds, hydroxyl ions are consumed. As atmospheric methane increases, it therefore slowly depletes the amount of hydroxyl available, because the steady rate of hydroxyl production is outpaced by the methane increase. This has important consequences for atmospheric chemistry. With fewer and fewer hydroxyl ions in the atmosphere, less and less methane can be consumed. That is, in fact, what is currently happening. Additional methane in the atmosphere, of course, leads to even greater consumption of hydroxyl ions.

The concentrations of other atmospheric gases are also affected. Hydroxyl ions, as noted above, also remove carbon monoxide, which may be from either natural sources (largely the oxidation of methane) or industrial sources (which are increasing the amount of carbon monoxide). The ions also react with several other gases, both from natural and industrial sources. Among them is hydrogen sulfide (H¸2S), which can chemically combine with hydroxyl to form sulfuric acid (H¸2SO¸4).

Fewer hydroxyl ions, therefore, may mean a more acidic atmosphere. And sulfuric acid is not the only acid that may increase as a result of lower hydroxyl ion availability. More methane may result in more chemical reactions with chlorine, producing hydrogen chloride, that is, hydrochloric acid (HCl). Increasing methane concentrations in the atmosphere, consequently, can produce significant changes in atmospheric chemistry, some of which can be projected, others which are as yet unknown, and still others which can impact the level of ozone, our protection against deadly ultraviolet light (Sze, 1977).
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yah, pretty sure she's gonna blow near the end of the week. has to happen. the great cull is upon us.
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This was written long before the gulf oil rig... and basically explains how a massive methane leak could literally ignite the ocean floor and/or atmosphere!
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you wouldn't believe how many people here don't believe that. until it blows up in their faces and they are hit with the reality that massive tragedy can come to their precious american lives...
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So, what if a volcanic eruption in the North Atlantic (Katla, anyone?) coincided with an oceanic methane release in the past, causing the ELE?

[link to www.killerinourmidst.com]

"Another issue Dickens examined is how the warming that produced the Latest Paleocene Thermal Maximum began. He found a triggering mechanism for the warming suggested by Thomas and Shackleton (1995) to be "particularly appealing: a rapid emission of CO¸2 associated with a brief interval of explosive volcanism in the North Atlantic," which warmed the planet.

The volcanism Dickens found appealing took place about 55 million years ago. At that time the configuration of the continents was beginning to assume its modern form. The Atlantic had opened but was considerably smaller than it is today; India was approaching its collision with Asia (which uplifted the Himalayas); Australia had detached from Antarctica. In the far north of the North Atlantic, Greenland had started to separate from Norway. This separation, as with the opening of the Atlantic itself, came as a consequence of the formation of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, which over tens of millions of years was creating an ocean by laying down ocean floor between Africa and Europe on one side and the Americas on the other."
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Notice this was published just after the rig exploded?

[link to www.newscientist.com]

Asphalt volcanoes discovered off California

* 12:32 27 April 2010 by Jim Giles

Seven small undersea "volcanoes" that once spewed asphalt into the Pacific Ocean have been mapped off the coast of California. They could be the cause of a prehistoric marine dead zone thought to exist in the area.

David Valentine and colleagues at the University of California, Santa Barbara, surveyed the sea floor and discovered the mounds, the largest of which rises 20 metres above the seabed, made from tar. Some were still releasing methane. It is the first time that asphalt volcanoes have been identified in the area. Valentine says they formed as sticky hydrocarbons seeped from the seabed around 40,000 years ago.

Methane would also have been released at a rate that greatly exceeds today's output, with devastating consequences for the local ecosystem. The gas would have attracted bacteria that metabolise methane and deplete oxygen. That fits with analysis of sea-floor sediments, which suggests that a dead zone of around 600 square kilometres formed here about 40,000 years ago.

Journal reference: Nature Geoscience, DOI: 10.1038/ngeo848
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This was written long before the gulf oil rig... and basically explains how a massive methane leak could literally ignite the ocean floor and/or atmosphere!


you wouldn't believe how many people here don't believe that. until it blows up in their faces and they are hit with the reality that massive tragedy can come to their precious american lives...
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Hey now, I'm an American! Don't dis just on the basis of nationality, please, it's offensive.

Regardless... this methane volcano thing is even worse than I thought.
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Too long whatever

One word....WORMWOOD!
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Maybe.
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Wow so George Kavassilas was right...the earth really is going to turn into a star.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Wow so George Kavassilas was right...the earth really is going to turn into a star.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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nah... it's going to BURN.... just like so many prophecies have said.
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So, what if a volcanic eruption in the North Atlantic (Katla, anyone?) coincided with an oceanic methane release in the past, causing the ELE?

[link to www.killerinourmidst.com]

"Another issue Dickens examined is how the warming that produced the Latest Paleocene Thermal Maximum began. He found a triggering mechanism for the warming suggested by Thomas and Shackleton (1995) to be "particularly appealing: a rapid emission of CO¸2 associated with a brief interval of explosive volcanism in the North Atlantic," which warmed the planet.

The volcanism Dickens found appealing took place about 55 million years ago. At that time the configuration of the continents was beginning to assume its modern form. The Atlantic had opened but was considerably smaller than it is today; India was approaching its collision with Asia (which uplifted the Himalayas); Australia had detached from Antarctica. In the far north of the North Atlantic, Greenland had started to separate from Norway. This separation, as with the opening of the Atlantic itself, came as a consequence of the formation of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, which over tens of millions of years was creating an ocean by laying down ocean floor between Africa and Europe on one side and the Americas on the other."
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you're on the right track. it's been syncronized. no coincidence. you prob. know about the suspicions that the gulf thing was no accident. now here are links to some threads that showed me the volcanos are being manipulated by unfriendlies.
Thread: Iceland Eruption (Page 11)
Thread: Amazing Eyjafjallajokull volcano UFO captured

the gulf is a huge bomb in the making. discover where it's antipode is.(you won't like that)
katla is somehow tied into the sequence.
i thought people were woowoo's when they said the elite planned to kill 90% of the population. not anymore.
it doesn't work out like they planned tho, happy ending.
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the thing thats going to ignite the world would be the soon to be highly flammable ocean in the gulf. A spark from a lightning storm could light up the ocean then sweep inlands. This scenerio is frighteningly possible
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Wow so George Kavassilas was right...the earth really is going to turn into a star.

[link to www.youtube.com]


nah... it's going to BURN.... just like so many prophecies have said.
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lake of fire. many get to escape tho. just the mean asses get stranded here. cya on the other side riker.
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very good info OP


thanks
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very good info OP


thanks
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cheers

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Pin this shit!!! dddd
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Pin this shit!!! dddd
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Thanks!

I hope everyone goes to read the link in my second post above... it's long but very good info!
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bump

everyone evacuate that area in the Gulf, She's gonna BLOW
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naw the atmosphere will be fine..

the air is 78% nitrogen..

which won't blow up and is inert.

it would take a much bigger reserve X100 to light the skies.

about the oceans acid thing.

can't say..

that is more probable
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Great info... Thanks OP!





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