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Are Women Feminizing Men?

Women say they want sensitivity and as a result, we have become wimps. You better cut it out ASAP.

By Matthew Fitzgerald, Relationship Correspondent

Page 1: Feminization of men

On a Saturday evening in July 1995, a man named Rich Zubaty (author of Surviving the Feminization of America and founder of MENTOR, an organization advocating healthy masculinity) staged an impromptu rally in Harvard Square to protest the swelling tide of anti-male propaganda and the shaming of men in the media. Calling it "Take Back the Penis," Zubaty thought the rally would register only a minor blip on the sociological radar screen. But amid strident female shouts of "Lorena Bobbitt for Surgeon General," scores of frustrated men began to flock to his banner, all intent on demonstrating their intrinsic belief that "It's O.K. to be a man."

That was almost 10 years ago. Have guys like Zubaty ushered in a decade of change? Not really. The average guy is still P-whipped by our culture, emasculated by the media, forced to cater to women, and pressured to act in a "politically correct" manner. TV, movies and advertisements increasingly portray men as simple-minded buffoons and as pawns to female "strength" and "competence."
what women want

At least books other than Zubaty's have appeared in the meantime -- The War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Summers, No More Mr. Nice Guy! by psychologist Dr. Robert Glover and Being a Man in a Woman's World by Dennis Neder -- all arguing that contemporary men are being robbed of their essential masculinity. But unfortunately, far more influential are movies like Mel Gibson's cotton candy pander-fest What Women Want , in which macho ad exec Nick Marshall (Gibson) loses a promotion to a female coworker because he doesn't understand that "It's a woman's world out there," and he only can redeem himself by learning to think like a female.

So the problem remains. As women continue to usurp positions of power and influence, as our culture exponentially coddles and panders to the female gender, as "equal rights" come to mean a kick in the balls, our society has learned to deify women and demonize men. The message is clear: women are good, men are bad. And what men need, the females trumpet, is to be more like women -- to be thoroughly feminized. This is especially true in the dating/mating arena.
the sad sitcom story

Any typical television sitcom tells the sad story. On Everybody Loves Raymond , the perpetually henpecked Ray Barone is expected to endure his wife Debra's bitchiness, lack of sexual desire and anti-male barbs as she castigates every aspect of his behavior. When he wants to take off for a couple of hours to play golf, he's "not taking care of his family" (the symbolism of her denying him golf -- his putter and balls -- should be obvious); when he wants to relax in front of the TV after a hard day on the job, he "never talks to her or shares his feelings;" and when he wants sex, he's "constantly mauling her."

Poor Ray is not alone...
Page 2: Emasculated men

As every aspect of Ray's masculine nature is demeaned and belittled, he is portrayed as inferior to Debra, while she is lionized as a superior human being. If he does try to stand up for his male rights, she berates him mercilessly, usually threatening to withhold sex until he backs down and rolls over. No mention is ever made that he works all day to pay for her mortgage, car, clothing, food, insurance, and entertainment, while she spends her afternoons at home trying to learn how to cook meatballs, the most important ingredient of which, according to her mother-in-law Marie, is "love." Notice that no one points out that someone has to sweat and toil to pay for this "love."

In essence, Ray is humiliated and punished because he acts like a man and not like the "perfect" Debra, a woman. His response? He apologizes -- Debra's right, he's wrong. He should be more sensitive, romantic and sharing of his feelings. He might just as well cut off his testicles and hand them over to her on a plate.
men who act like women

The problem is that we are turning into a nation of Rays. The standard held up to us is entirely female. This can be easily witnessed in the rise of the "metrosexual," the straight man so feminized that, like a woman, he is obsessed with his appearance, daubs on makeup and opts for cosmetic surgery. Today, men are supposed to have "relationship skills," and they are expected to be capable of achieving "greater intimacy" and to openly express their emotions. They are supposed to be "soul mates" and to "communicate" like girlfriends, not act like testosterone-charged lovers. But at the same time, today's woman has still not shed her typical female hypocrisy; as usual, she still wants it both ways. When there's hard work to be done or bills to be paid, that's when she wants us to act like "real men."

The result? A generation of guys totally bewildered, confused and disoriented. Let's face it: A man's needs are pretty minimal. All he really asks for is regular sex and a cold one. But instead, what he gets are allegations that he's "too aggressive" and trumped-up charges of "sexual harassment" for what is simply a natural appreciation of the opposite sex. If he wants to keep his job or go on a date, he's forced to endure a gut load of female bullying.
the role of feminism

It's tempting to blame the whole mess on the so-called "feminism" that has cut the heart out of Western culture. But mainstream "feminism" is a self-serving movement that grants societal license to female greed. The real culprit here is sex. As always, women -- shrewd and manipulating as they are -- know full well that most guys will do just about anything to get laid. So, as females feel their oats with their newfound power, they do what comes naturally to them: They use it for sexual blackmail. If guys want access to our bodies, they say, they're going to have to dance to our feminizing tunes.

It's completely lost on today's woman that females are too emotionally immature, greedy and self-indulgent to do anything but abuse and misuse this power, and they can't see that their short-term selfish thinking really equates to shooting themselves in the foot. The truth is, men are supposed to be men and women are supposed to be women. Mother Nature has made us this way through five million years of evolution. And it's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
time to take it back

So what can we do about it?

It's time to take our territory back. Take back the penis. This is why Rich Zubaty's rally touched such a raw nerve. Men certainly didn't ask to have their territory redefined. But redefined it has been, right under our noses. Now it's time -- before it's really too late -- to stand up to women, to let them know that we're not going to take it anymore.

As Zubaty writes: "Our job is not to get along with the Goddess. Our job is to f**k the Goddess."

Amen.
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You're just making excuses for being a pussy.
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its unused birth control flushed and in our drinking water
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I believe this is more of a reason: [link to news.bbc.co.uk]
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THE FEMINIZATION OF AMERICA

If you wonder why we are being overrun with illegal immigrants, why America is hated by Muslim fundamentalists, why we are losing wars with much smaller and weaker adversaries, look no further. It's all because of the feminization of the men of America that has been promoted by the NWO for decades now. The gender the politicians, Hollywood, and the media use as the ideal person has changed from someone who is a strong moral male to a weak and submissive female personality. They portray strong men as ignorant brutish bullies, while the 'educated' and 'enlightened' male is shown as someone who is sensitive and nurturing, even openly homosexual.
This is part of their agenda in the takeover of America. A 'mature' adult nowadays is seen as someone who is comfortable talking about their inner conflicts, someone who values personal relationships above goals and morality, someone who isn't afraid to cry. In other words: a mature adult is seen as a woman. This feminization process manifests itself in myriad ways. Consider child discipline. Seventy years ago, doctors agreed that the best way to discipline your child was to punish the little criminal. ("Spare the rod, spoil the child.") Today, spanking is considered child abuse. You're supposed to talk with your kid. Spanking sends all the wrong messages, we are told, and these attitudes have brought about stupendously horrible consequences. The soaring drug use, crime , and welfare dependency are the result.

This process of femininization manifests itself, though somewhat differently, when you turn on the TV or watch a movie. Throughout the mid-twentieth century, leading men were, as a rule, infallible: think of John Wayne or Ward Cleaver. But no longer. In family comedy, the father figure has metamorphosed from the all-knowing, all-wise Ward Cleaver of Leave it to Beaver to the consistent stupidity of Homer Simpson. Commercially successful movies now often feature women who are physically aggressive, who dominate or at least upstage the men. In today's cinema, most of the leading women are strong, and most of the leading men are pretty boys.

A transformation of comparable magnitude seems to be under way in the political arena. The feminine way of seeing the world and its problems has becoming the mainstream way. Keeping women voters happy seems to be a high priority for politicians these days, and for good reason, America is now a thoroughly feminized country. In 1992, Bill Clinton won the presidency. Clinton was a communist leaning weak female centered man, and an acknowledged draft evader. George W. Bush has caved in on virtually anything a true conservative cares about to appease the left, and was alleged to have used family influence to obtain a position in the Texas National Guard, in order to avoid service in Vietnam. Being a feminine man and a draft dodger isn't as bad as it used to be in this new America. To find a masculine president, one has to go back to Ronald Reagan. There was a time that, no matter how flawed the individual was, the vast majority of U.S. presidents, Republican and Democrat, exuded masculinity and manliness. Those days are over. There have been fundamental changes in American culture over the past fifty years, changes that indicate a shift from a male-dominated culture to a feminine and androgynous society. The question is, what's causing this shift?

God's prophet warned that one of the marks of a nation under divine judgment is when "women rule over them." (Isa. 3:12) Today, women must be appeased and catered to. They are the heads of businesses, the heads of churches, and the heads of their homes. In politics, the women's vote is usually the one that turns the election. Women serve on military ships and in military operations. They dictate their children's upbringing (which explains why most of them grow up undisciplined and spoiled, by the way) and have the final word on virtually all family decisions. Such a phenomenon is the sign of a nation in trouble. Men have abandoned their responsibilities of leadership, and our nation is going down the tubes because of it. In the black community, the vast majority of children are being raised without a father. The white community is not far behind. Furthermore, in those homes where fathers do exist, they are largely detached and provide no real influence. Mom is in charge, and everybody in the household knows it. It was not always this way, however.

There was a time in this nation when rugged men taught their sons the qualities of manhood. Boys grew up learning how to box, how to wrestle, how to play football, etc. Today, America's boys only know how to play girls' games. They have never had their noses bloodied or their butts bruised. "Soccer Moms" have replaced disciplinarian dads. Then again, there was a time when a man's primary interest was not in guzzling a pack of Budweiser and sitting all evening in front of the "boob tube" while ignoring virtually everyone in the house. There was a time when men took their families to church and taught their children the fundamental values of honesty and integrity. Believe it or not, there was a time in America when men took pride in being the spiritual heads of their homes. They actually knew how to balance a checkbook and how to read the Good Book. They were the kind of men that women loved and children respected.

However, the feminization of America is so complete, so thorough, that I am not certain if old-fashioned, masculine men are even desirable anymore. You would not know it by looking at our politicians, or our preachers, that is for sure. The politicians, and everyone else, seemed determined to continue to appease the feminized majority that comprises this new America.
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Definitely, both through cultural ('political correctness') and through chemical means.
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It's all true, but there are a lot of women that are happy to let men be men.

Hollywood is dominated by "D-Girls" (development girls) that are in charge of developing scripts. Imagine a progressive feminist career woman in charge of development. That's why Broadcast TV is having such a hard time keeping male viewers away from the internet. The D-Girls and the female casting agents who cast male actors that look like airbrushed versions of Rob Lowe. You would NEVER see Russell Crowe cast for a TV show if he wasn't already a famous actor. He's too masculine and confident for female casting directors. The macho characters have to be dumb dolts. Also, blacks are not allowed to play bad guys any more even though those are the best breaks for young actors. Blacks must play "wallpaper" characters, no flaws or personality, must be a degreed professional that is not allowed to smile or have a good time with white characters. They must maintain a constant air of indignation to remind audiences that whites are all racist, morally corrupt individuals.

I can't wait for the big one this year, it will be the end of Hollywood- at least I hope.
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When British columnist Mark Simpson coined the term "metrosexual," he had a clear concept in his head: he is a "a young man with money to spend, living in or within easy reach of a metropolis. Particular professions, such as modeling, waiting tables, media, pop music and, nowadays, sport, seem to attract them but, truth be told, like male vanity products and herpes, they're pretty much everywhere. He is much more interested in being looked at."

His vision became realized by British football powerhouse David Beckham.

Here, in the far eastern country from Britain, men are actively transforming themselves to metrosexuals and have stepped a bit further- they are now called the "grooming tribes" here, who even wear slight make up to their workplaces or social gatherings. Cracking the old idea that fashion and beauty are for gays only, straight men are also gearing up to look nicer and fancier every morning.

One thing to reflect the trend is the increasing consumption of "men cosmetic goods."

Lee Nam-hun, 29 year-old self-employed man, said he wears "color lotion" to work every day. The product is a combination of foundation, lotion and sun screen. "I have used it since I served for the military six years ago. Many of the colleagues were using it, even my superiors," he said.

He said more friends near him are interested in applying lotions or sunscreens for the skin's sake and more people are talking about nice looking shirts or glasses. "Don't you think men aren't interested in grooming themselves," he added.

Indeed, the cosmetic market for males is expanding every year. According to Amore Pacific, the nation's largest perfume maker, the market marked around 580 billion won last year and is expected grow by 3 to 5 percent every year.

The company has recently opened a men's cosmetic shop "MEN STUDIO" in northern Seoul and is enjoying great success.

"We focused on men aged between 26 and 32: who have graduated from college and has a job, which enables them to understand that grooming is a necessity. About 60 percent of the visitors are men and the rest are women trying to buy something for their boyfriends," Lim Jung-shik, the store brand manager, said.

"In the past, most men bought items online, in order to avoid embarrassment of entering 'girly' places. However, they are more straightforward and do not mind talking or enquiring about it," Lim said, explaining his main target.

It's not just the basic items such as aftershave lotions or moisturizer but more sophisticated ones like eye cream or night cream that also are marking high sales rate. Some even turn to BB cream, something that women turn up to make face look as if they have applied nothing. It still covers spots and scars. Amore Pacific as well as several other makers have joined the race to attract men who are willing to look flawless at work.

In the night time, the clubbing and other pop culture have influenced many men to try "smoky eye makeup" and leave strong impression on others.

"I sometimes like this kind of strong make up. Why shouldn't I? I look more attractive under the lighting at parties," 29-year-old Chung Sang-gyo said. He said when wearing makeup, he felt more attention from girls, mostly in a positive way.

Prof. Jung Jin-woong of Hanyang University said, "As the social status of women have increased in the past several decades, men started to realize that they need another asset- appearance- to compete with the women. I think more men will be indulged into grooming."
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Are Women Feminizing Men?

Women say they want sensitivity and as a result, we have become wimps. You better cut it out ASAP.

By Matthew Fitzgerald, Relationship Correspondent

Page 1: Feminization of men

On a Saturday evening in July 1995, a man named Rich Zubaty (author of Surviving the Feminization of America and founder of MENTOR, an organization advocating healthy masculinity) staged an impromptu rally in Harvard Square to protest the swelling tide of anti-male propaganda and the shaming of men in the media. Calling it "Take Back the Penis," Zubaty thought the rally would register only a minor blip on the sociological radar screen. But amid strident female shouts of "Lorena Bobbitt for Surgeon General," scores of frustrated men began to flock to his banner, all intent on demonstrating their intrinsic belief that "It's O.K. to be a man."

That was almost 10 years ago. Have guys like Zubaty ushered in a decade of change? Not really. The average guy is still P-whipped by our culture, emasculated by the media, forced to cater to women, and pressured to act in a "politically correct" manner. TV, movies and advertisements increasingly portray men as simple-minded buffoons and as pawns to female "strength" and "competence."
what women want

At least books other than Zubaty's have appeared in the meantime -- The War Against Boys by Christina Hoff Summers, No More Mr. Nice Guy! by psychologist Dr. Robert Glover and Being a Man in a Woman's World by Dennis Neder -- all arguing that contemporary men are being robbed of their essential masculinity. But unfortunately, far more influential are movies like Mel Gibson's cotton candy pander-fest What Women Want , in which macho ad exec Nick Marshall (Gibson) loses a promotion to a female coworker because he doesn't understand that "It's a woman's world out there," and he only can redeem himself by learning to think like a female.

So the problem remains. As women continue to usurp positions of power and influence, as our culture exponentially coddles and panders to the female gender, as "equal rights" come to mean a kick in the balls, our society has learned to deify women and demonize men. The message is clear: women are good, men are bad. And what men need, the females trumpet, is to be more like women -- to be thoroughly feminized. This is especially true in the dating/mating arena.
the sad sitcom story

Any typical television sitcom tells the sad story. On Everybody Loves Raymond , the perpetually henpecked Ray Barone is expected to endure his wife Debra's bitchiness, lack of sexual desire and anti-male barbs as she castigates every aspect of his behavior. When he wants to take off for a couple of hours to play golf, he's "not taking care of his family" (the symbolism of her denying him golf -- his putter and balls -- should be obvious); when he wants to relax in front of the TV after a hard day on the job, he "never talks to her or shares his feelings;" and when he wants sex, he's "constantly mauling her."

Poor Ray is not alone...
Page 2: Emasculated men

As every aspect of Ray's masculine nature is demeaned and belittled, he is portrayed as inferior to Debra, while she is lionized as a superior human being. If he does try to stand up for his male rights, she berates him mercilessly, usually threatening to withhold sex until he backs down and rolls over. No mention is ever made that he works all day to pay for her mortgage, car, clothing, food, insurance, and entertainment, while she spends her afternoons at home trying to learn how to cook meatballs, the most important ingredient of which, according to her mother-in-law Marie, is "love." Notice that no one points out that someone has to sweat and toil to pay for this "love."

In essence, Ray is humiliated and punished because he acts like a man and not like the "perfect" Debra, a woman. His response? He apologizes -- Debra's right, he's wrong. He should be more sensitive, romantic and sharing of his feelings. He might just as well cut off his testicles and hand them over to her on a plate.
men who act like women

The problem is that we are turning into a nation of Rays. The standard held up to us is entirely female. This can be easily witnessed in the rise of the "metrosexual," the straight man so feminized that, like a woman, he is obsessed with his appearance, daubs on makeup and opts for cosmetic surgery. Today, men are supposed to have "relationship skills," and they are expected to be capable of achieving "greater intimacy" and to openly express their emotions. They are supposed to be "soul mates" and to "communicate" like girlfriends, not act like testosterone-charged lovers. But at the same time, today's woman has still not shed her typical female hypocrisy; as usual, she still wants it both ways. When there's hard work to be done or bills to be paid, that's when she wants us to act like "real men."

The result? A generation of guys totally bewildered, confused and disoriented. Let's face it: A man's needs are pretty minimal. All he really asks for is regular sex and a cold one. But instead, what he gets are allegations that he's "too aggressive" and trumped-up charges of "sexual harassment" for what is simply a natural appreciation of the opposite sex. If he wants to keep his job or go on a date, he's forced to endure a gut load of female bullying.
the role of feminism

It's tempting to blame the whole mess on the so-called "feminism" that has cut the heart out of Western culture. But mainstream "feminism" is a self-serving movement that grants societal license to female greed. The real culprit here is sex. As always, women -- shrewd and manipulating as they are -- know full well that most guys will do just about anything to get laid. So, as females feel their oats with their newfound power, they do what comes naturally to them: They use it for sexual blackmail. If guys want access to our bodies, they say, they're going to have to dance to our feminizing tunes.

It's completely lost on today's woman that females are too emotionally immature, greedy and self-indulgent to do anything but abuse and misuse this power, and they can't see that their short-term selfish thinking really equates to shooting themselves in the foot. The truth is, men are supposed to be men and women are supposed to be women. Mother Nature has made us this way through five million years of evolution. And it's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
time to take it back

So what can we do about it?

It's time to take our territory back. Take back the penis. This is why Rich Zubaty's rally touched such a raw nerve. Men certainly didn't ask to have their territory redefined. But redefined it has been, right under our noses. Now it's time -- before it's really too late -- to stand up to women, to let them know that we're not going to take it anymore.

As Zubaty writes: "Our job is not to get along with the Goddess. Our job is to f**k the Goddess."

Amen.
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It's all true, but there are a lot of women that are happy to let men be men.

Hollywood is dominated by "D-Girls" (development girls) that are in charge of developing scripts. Imagine a progressive feminist career woman in charge of development. That's why Broadcast TV is having such a hard time keeping male viewers away from the internet. The D-Girls and the female casting agents who cast male actors that look like airbrushed versions of Rob Lowe. You would NEVER see Russell Crowe cast for a TV show if he wasn't already a famous actor. He's too masculine and confident for female casting directors. The macho characters have to be dumb dolts. Also, blacks are not allowed to play bad guys any more even though those are the best breaks for young actors. Blacks must play "wallpaper" characters, no flaws or personality, must be a degreed professional that is not allowed to smile or have a good time with white characters. They must maintain a constant air of indignation to remind audiences that whites are all racist, morally corrupt individuals.

I can't wait for the big one this year, it will be the end of Hollywood- at least I hope.
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I believe it is a media attack on the male-female relationship. They are little by little conditioning people to be and act like what they put out over the tube. As the post says about Raymond and his wife, women believe they are always right even when they're not. I also believe women are more easily influenced and manipulated than males.
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With the advent of "The Pill" women for better or worse have been relieved of their biological "destiny".

In the real world what that means is that women, first single women, then all women without children, and now moving to even women WITH children, no longer feel that they necesarrily "NEED" a man in their lives in order to financially live life.

The end result is that women, who always strayed even during the old days at a pretty consistent rate no long feel the need to even put on the pretense of having a committed long term partner. (what is that stat? 30% of all children born were fathered by someone OTHER than the husband/sig other of the woman? a statistic that via genetic testing is now shown to have been relatively stable for a number of decades).

Science and societal norms have now moved past the old dynamic where a man was necessary in the greater scheme of things in order to conceive and raise children (the primary biological necessity of any animal specie) ... in fact in many (most?) arena's of life men are now superfluous to the biological equation that ruled since the dawn of the human on this planet.

I have definitely seen this "men are superfluous" attitude in many (most actually) women of my generation, the first full generation after the development of "The Pill", in fact suffered with it wrt my own wife, and it has only gotten worse during the intervening decades. The younger women take up this attitude with a VENGENCE. I see this among ALL the younger women (no longer "girls") of my entire extended family. Not a single exception (they all are and were very good looking first girls now women ... and they ALL are willing to use men, and do use men, for their own selfish purposes - oh and they are "nice" compared to most women of their age since as they put it they "only" play their trump card "when they have to")

My advice to my own teenage sons has finally gotten down advising them that they should think long and hard before they ever commit to marriage ... since it is very unlikely that it will end up being anything for them but a give give and give to an ungrateful woman relationship. At least with "dating" I tell them, you have an "out" when you start being treated badly, but with a marriage you will be sucked dry, first emotionally and finally economically.

Female/Male relationships are changing BIG TIME ... and men in industrialized societies are quickly (in the greater scheme of animal developtment ... ie: over a series of decades NOT centuries) becoming exteraneous and excess baggage as far as most women are concerned.
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they've been emasculated by women for a long time. they will never lose their identity though, it's part of the male species
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THE FEMINIZATION OF AMERICA

If you wonder why we are being overrun with illegal immigrants, why America is hated by Muslim fundamentalists, why we are losing wars with much smaller and weaker adversaries, look no further. It's all because of the feminization of the men of America that has been promoted by the NWO for decades now. The gender the politicians, Hollywood, and the media use as the ideal person has changed from someone who is a strong moral male to a weak and submissive female personality. They portray strong men as ignorant brutish bullies, while the 'educated' and 'enlightened' male is shown as someone who is sensitive and nurturing, even openly homosexual.
This is part of their agenda in the takeover of America. A 'mature' adult nowadays is seen as someone who is comfortable talking about their inner conflicts, someone who values personal relationships above goals and morality, someone who isn't afraid to cry. In other words: a mature adult is seen as a woman. This feminization process manifests itself in myriad ways. Consider child discipline. Seventy years ago, doctors agreed that the best way to discipline your child was to punish the little criminal. ("Spare the rod, spoil the child.") Today, spanking is considered child abuse. You're supposed to talk with your kid. Spanking sends all the wrong messages, we are told, and these attitudes have brought about stupendously horrible consequences. The soaring drug use, crime , and welfare dependency are the result.

This process of femininization manifests itself, though somewhat differently, when you turn on the TV or watch a movie. Throughout the mid-twentieth century, leading men were, as a rule, infallible: think of John Wayne or Ward Cleaver. But no longer. In family comedy, the father figure has metamorphosed from the all-knowing, all-wise Ward Cleaver of Leave it to Beaver to the consistent stupidity of Homer Simpson. Commercially successful movies now often feature women who are physically aggressive, who dominate or at least upstage the men. In today's cinema, most of the leading women are strong, and most of the leading men are pretty boys.

A transformation of comparable magnitude seems to be under way in the political arena. The feminine way of seeing the world and its problems has becoming the mainstream way. Keeping women voters happy seems to be a high priority for politicians these days, and for good reason, America is now a thoroughly feminized country. In 1992, Bill Clinton won the presidency. Clinton was a communist leaning weak female centered man, and an acknowledged draft evader. George W. Bush has caved in on virtually anything a true conservative cares about to appease the left, and was alleged to have used family influence to obtain a position in the Texas National Guard, in order to avoid service in Vietnam. Being a feminine man and a draft dodger isn't as bad as it used to be in this new America. To find a masculine president, one has to go back to Ronald Reagan. There was a time that, no matter how flawed the individual was, the vast majority of U.S. presidents, Republican and Democrat, exuded masculinity and manliness. Those days are over. There have been fundamental changes in American culture over the past fifty years, changes that indicate a shift from a male-dominated culture to a feminine and androgynous society. The question is, what's causing this shift?

God's prophet warned that one of the marks of a nation under divine judgment is when "women rule over them." (Isa. 3:12) Today, women must be appeased and catered to. They are the heads of businesses, the heads of churches, and the heads of their homes. In politics, the women's vote is usually the one that turns the election. Women serve on military ships and in military operations. They dictate their children's upbringing (which explains why most of them grow up undisciplined and spoiled, by the way) and have the final word on virtually all family decisions. Such a phenomenon is the sign of a nation in trouble. Men have abandoned their responsibilities of leadership, and our nation is going down the tubes because of it. In the black community, the vast majority of children are being raised without a father. The white community is not far behind. Furthermore, in those homes where fathers do exist, they are largely detached and provide no real influence. Mom is in charge, and everybody in the household knows it. It was not always this way, however.

There was a time in this nation when rugged men taught their sons the qualities of manhood. Boys grew up learning how to box, how to wrestle, how to play football, etc. Today, America's boys only know how to play girls' games. They have never had their noses bloodied or their butts bruised. "Soccer Moms" have replaced disciplinarian dads. Then again, there was a time when a man's primary interest was not in guzzling a pack of Budweiser and sitting all evening in front of the "boob tube" while ignoring virtually everyone in the house. There was a time when men took their families to church and taught their children the fundamental values of honesty and integrity. Believe it or not, there was a time in America when men took pride in being the spiritual heads of their homes. They actually knew how to balance a checkbook and how to read the Good Book. They were the kind of men that women loved and children respected.

However, the feminization of America is so complete, so thorough, that I am not certain if old-fashioned, masculine men are even desirable anymore. You would not know it by looking at our politicians, or our preachers, that is for sure. The politicians, and everyone else, seemed determined to continue to appease the feminized majority that comprises this new America.
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Blah blah blah...you reap what you sow
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Depends on where you live. Here in the Mormon west, women are still berated and relegated to subservience by our dominating patriarchal culture.

If one of the women get out of order, we provide them with another child to take care of, or bring a second or third wife into the mix to keep them competitive with each other.
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In Japan some call them herbivores, and on Saturday nights they come out to graze: a perfumed army of preening masculinity. Groomed and primped, hair teased to peacock-like perfection and bodies wrapped in tight-fitting clothes, their habitat is the crowded city where they live in fear of commitment, and the odd carnivorous female who preys on them.

For much of this decade, the older men who drove this country to the top of the economic league tables have looked on in bewilderment at the foppish antics of the generation below.

Japan's twenty- and thirtysomething males seem disinterested in careers and apathetic about the rituals of dating, sex and marriage. They spend almost as much on cosmetics and clothes as women, live with their mums and sit down on the toilet when they pee. Some have even been known to wear bras. "What is happening to the nation's manhood?" wonders social critic Takuro Morinaga.

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Now they have their answer: Japanese males are transforming into grass-eaters.

Coined by columnist Maki Fukasawa, the term soshoku-danshi (herbivorous male) has become one of those cultural buzzwords that hijacks the Japanese media every couple of years. With its implied disdain for vegetarians, the term has been popularised in a bestselling new book called The Herbivorous Ladylike Men (who) are Changing Japan by Megumi Ushikubo, president of Tokyo marketing firm Infinity. Her company claims that roughly two-thirds of all Japanese men aged 20-34 are now partial or total grass-eaters, and a very long way from the classic twin stereotypes of 20th-century Japanese masculinity: the fierce, unyielding warrior and the workaholic salary-man.

"I noticed these major changes taking place between my father's generation, the 58 to 63-year-olds who are retiring now, and the under-35s," she explains. "This is just a very different breed."

Ms Ushikubo believes that the post-war corporate samurai is increasingly a carnivorous dinosaur, whose legendary dedication to the company – at the expense of family – is as much a relic as dawn calisthenics on the factory floor.

"Grass-eaters" by contrast, are uncompetitive and uncommitted to work, a symptom of their epic disillusionment with Japan's troubled economy. "People who grew up in the bubble era (of the 1980s) really feel like they were let down. They worked so hard and it all came to nothing," says Ms Ushikubo. "So the men who came after them have changed."

Like many all-encompassing buzzwords, "herbivore male" can be laughably imprecise. Among his other qualities, the herbivore is close to his mum, has a liking for deserts and foreign travel and leans toward platonic relationships with the opposite sex. He will happily share a night with a woman without laying a hand on her and doesn't waste his money on prostitutes.

But the term resonates with a generation struggling to make sense of profound social disruption rooted in economic changes. Wealth disparities are corroding Japan's meritocracy and poverty is rising. A 2007 OECD report showed that relative poverty in Japan is the second worst in the developed world, after the United States.

Business magazine Weekly Diamond recently noted that more than 80 per cent of 35-year-olds in Japan live on an annual income of two million yen – a key poverty benchmark. "I don't think the lives my parents had is an option for us anymore," laments Kai Ishii, a 26-year-old broker in Shizuoka Prefecture. "I want to eventually get married and buy a house. I just don't know when I'll be able to do that, even if I'm still in a job."

About one third of the Japanese workforce is now casual or part-time, and confidence in the future is at rock bottom. For many young men, the post-war dream of lifetime employment, home and family, with all the sacrifices it entailed, is fading. In response, some have turned their energies elsewhere, toward the once feminised sphere of consumption – or away from life altogether.

Millions remain at home as "parasite singles", meaning they live with, and off, their parents. The pressing need to find a partner has been alleviated by the ubiquity of porn, sex toys and virtual sex on bedroom computers – one reason, say analysts, why consumption of condoms has been falling for a decade. Even those who opt for conventional marriage find their old role of main breadwinner is no longer available: men and woman increasingly share the roles of work and home.

Many of these complex changes are also occurring elsewhere, and are not unwelcome, points out sociologist Yuko Kawanishi. "Japanese men had it good for a long time. They were macho and sexist, and neglected their wives, so it's good that they're discovering their feminine side, and learning to cooperate."

Ms Ushikubo also hails the rise of the ojyo-man, or ladylike men. "My generation expected that sort of traditional man to pay for everything, to get the good job and support us," the 41-year-old author recalls. "But that system put a lot of pressure on men. They don't know when they'll be fired, or restructured. The idea that they had to carry the burden by themselves is fading and I think we're seeing more equal relationships."

While sociologists debate its merits, the herbivore phenomenon has become popular media fodder. On one discussion show this year, a group of grass-eaters faced their older counterparts like opposing armies across a battlefield. "Men are turning into women," lamented critic Mr Morinaga.

The blurring of gender boundaries has been highlighted by stories appearing to demonstrate that once proud alpha-males are being symbolically castrated in the home. Toilet-maker Matsushita Electric Works reported a survey this year suggesting that more than 40 per cent of adult men in Japan sit on the toilet when they urinate – a figure that is rising year by year.

Nagging wives are also blamed for the rise of the Tenshi no Hizamakura, or Angel's Knee Pillow, a kneeling stool with an unfortunate resemblance to a church pew that brings men closer to the bowl when they pee. Designed to stop splashing around the bowl – women after all still do the vast bulk of household cleaning – the product's arrival prompted the following headline in one media outlet "Men brought to their knees by angry housewives".

Marketing experts like Ms Ushikubo, who has also written a book called The Consumption Power of Twenty-something Happy Parasites, have been quick to learn the lessons of the new herbivorous world.

Men are now leading purchasers of hair products, make-up, fashion accessories and manicures. A Tokyo-based company called WishRoom is even selling men's bras, some to middle-aged salary-men.

"They were the generation we had been told were 'manly' – they led Japan in the post-war period," WishRoom president Masayuki Tsuchiya told the Japan Times this month. He said the company had sold more than 5,000 of the bras to men who are probably reacting against the classic stereotype of stoic, silently enduring male. "They said wearing a bra just made them feel more calm, relaxed and revived."

True carnivores sigh in disgust, but could the grass-eaters be merely the latest flowering of an old tradition? Japanese culture has long had a strong element of androgyny: During the Tokugawa period (1603-1868), men played women and women dressed as men for the theatre, while erotic art celebrated bisexualism and transgender role-playing. The traditions live on in the Takarazuka Review, which features women performers in dress suits playing men, and in Kabuki theatre.

The common element between the Tokugawa era and today, says Osaka-based philosopher Masahiro Morioka, is peace. "Japan has been free from any form of conflict since the Second World War, and that has liberated men from the need to be manly."

Not that he or anyone else is advocating a return to war to give men back their symbolic cojones. "I think the changes among men are mostly healthy and are here to stay," says Ms Ushikubo.
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It's all true, but there are a lot of women that are happy to let men be men.

Hollywood is dominated by "D-Girls" (development girls) that are in charge of developing scripts. Imagine a progressive feminist career woman in charge of development. That's why Broadcast TV is having such a hard time keeping male viewers away from the internet. The D-Girls and the female casting agents who cast male actors that look like airbrushed versions of Rob Lowe. You would NEVER see Russell Crowe cast for a TV show if he wasn't already a famous actor. He's too masculine and confident for female casting directors. The macho characters have to be dumb dolts. Also, blacks are not allowed to play bad guys any more even though those are the best breaks for young actors. Blacks must play "wallpaper" characters, no flaws or personality, must be a degreed professional that is not allowed to smile or have a good time with white characters. They must maintain a constant air of indignation to remind audiences that whites are all racist, morally corrupt individuals.

I can't wait for the big one this year, it will be the end of Hollywood- at least I hope.
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It's all true, but there are a lot of women that are happy to let men be men.

Hollywood is dominated by "D-Girls" (development girls) that are in charge of developing scripts. Imagine a progressive feminist career woman in charge of development. That's why Broadcast TV is having such a hard time keeping male viewers away from the internet. The D-Girls and the female casting agents who cast male actors that look like airbrushed versions of Rob Lowe. You would NEVER see Russell Crowe cast for a TV show if he wasn't already a famous actor. He's too masculine and confident for female casting directors. The macho characters have to be dumb dolts. Also, blacks are not allowed to play bad guys any more even though those are the best breaks for young actors. Blacks must play "wallpaper" characters, no flaws or personality, must be a degreed professional that is not allowed to smile or have a good time with white characters. They must maintain a constant air of indignation to remind audiences that whites are all racist, morally corrupt individuals.

I can't wait for the big one this year, it will be the end of Hollywood- at least I hope.


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All ego's fear change. But these changes are not forced upon you. If you can't handle the change, then don't change.

Part of being a real man is not giving in to every single social pressure.

So man up and stop whining about what's on T.V.

A hen pecked husband is an icon, because it's funny. Why is it funny? Because you don't have to put up with it!

Don't let being a man become synonymous with being an asshole however.

The reason for "political correctness" isn't to make you a woman, it's to make up for the loss of politeness that took place in America since the 1950's.

People forgot that being polite is a social strategy to prevent physical attacks, and that being an ass can get your butt kicked.

Is it taken too far? "Person hole covers" and "firefighting personnel" are a little much...

But again, if you don't like it, then don't use it.
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It's all about the most powerful market in the world.
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Depends on where you live. Here in the Mormon west, women are still berated and relegated to subservience by our dominating patriarchal culture.

If one of the women get out of order, we provide them with another child to take care of, or bring a second or third wife into the mix to keep them competitive with each other.
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Keep up the good work!
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truth. but theres a fine line between a real positive man- and a wreckless man.... have morals.have principles- but STAND FOR THEM FIRMLY!
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I caught 3 good looking women looking at me today (I went to a puplick place today). Typicle, I haven't showered or shaved in months. All smiled and made eye contact but at no point did I think it would be a good idea to engage with them.
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You're just making excuses for being a pussy.
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It's from herbicides and pesticides. Just look up "endocrine disruptors" and pesticides or follow this link:

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I caught 3 good looking women looking at me today (I went to a puplick place today). Typicle, I haven't showered or shaved in months. All smiled and made eye contact but at no point did I think it would be a good idea to engage with them.
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Good choice, don't open a can of worms
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Those who are blaming hormones in the water it takes far more hormones then the trace amounts talking about here. Also testosterone blockers would also have to be in large amounts.
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It's the Bisphenol A.
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Yep, and its everywhere, bottled water is just the tip of the iceberg

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