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If you create your own reality, why does everyone have basically the same one???

 
MCRock
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We do create our own realities, but there are limitations based on our belief structure which determines the probability of the reality manifesting. There are also catches to this creation process. Those aware of the ability almost always fall into the same pitfall, which is getting the opposite of what they want, for as long as the desired reality is observed, you don't get it.

Way back when, when there was nothing else to do but think and look for food, people realized this and devised methods around this problem. The first thing they had to do was take the control out of their hands and offer it to a "higher power" - god. Taking credit for one's reality just builds the ego which inhibits the creation process.

Then they had to distract themselves so they couldn't observe their wishes. That's when ritual started and fasting...try focusing on anything other than food when you haven't eaten for a couple days - it's impossible, or dancing around a hot fire for hours at a time until exhaustion. They quickly were able to take their eye off the prize.

Reality is like a long string connected at either end by fixed points. Your reality is just one spot on that string and as you change your reality, the rest of the string slowly adjusts (rises or falls) to fit it in. As a result, reality always remains consistent for everyone and maintains order. If however, you were able to alter your reality so drastically that it pulled the string from one of the points, chaos would ensue and everything would end. That can't happen.

Then there is time. Time only exists on our level, but at the highest source level - where "God" exists - there is no time. Which means that you are already dead. And if death was final and absolute, then you wouldn't be able to contemplate death at this point anyway - so don't worry...you're alreay dead. This requires you to think and dwell really hard on it before it sinks in, but it will. You'll realize your death is just a reflection of your birth and without death, you couldn't have been born.
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I agree with some of your assertions and challenge others. Belief has no effect on reality. I can believe all day long that athing will or won't or is or isn't; all that does is expend energy. Belief can have an effect on how I process and react to reality.

I disagree with your second assertion. We didn't have to turn over the idea of creator to anyone or anything. We just did out of lack of time to think about it.

I agree with your third assertion almost without reservation.

I REALLY like your string analogy to reality; it may be one of the best I've ever heard.

As a being who can process and deal with time in a linear fashion ONLY, the concept of anything or anyone that is outside of my experience or ability to influence are not practical things to dwell on. Recreationally, it's fun to do so, though.
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Re: If you create your own reality, why does everyone have basically the same one???
Well first off, not everyone has basically the same reality.

There's for example the story of the two brothers who had an alchoholic father who used to beat them when they were kids and just generally disfunctional in societty... as they reach their 40s, one of the brothers is an alchoholic himself and abusive towards his family and a social failure. The other never drinks, is a great parent, and is a model of civic virtue.

When asked why they turned out this way both say: "Well what do you expect with a father like mine?"

So the perception of reality and the response to it is what you create, and everyone can do this.

Secondly, the statement "You create your own reality" is not unconditional and unlimited by itself as some people seem to want to interpret it as being. Maybe some people can indeed change the entire nature and fabric of the universe around them, but even if you just create 0.0001% of your own reality, the statement still stands as technically true :P
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Great post.
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My time with the Toltecs taught me this:
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lol

my time with the toltecs taught me that there is a serpant god

and

"Mesoamerican cultures, such as the Tarascans and Toltecs, performed human sacrifices as well. ..."
holypedia


-so the toltecs are wonderful and wise
-if you like serpant gods and killing people

lol
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The things the human brain does when it decides to play with itself are very odd, aren't they? It's certainly not outside of the ability of such a complex organ to generate all sorts of recreational data for itself.

This is going to piss many people off, but I believe that the part of the brain that generates dream data and the part of the brain that people access when they're listening for whatever they use for "spiritual advancement" are possibly connected in some way. I don't claim to be sure that that data is either internally generated or externally generated, but the fact that dreams occur when my consciousness is not actively involved with my environment makes me less likely to accept external origin.

Maybe that's why I'm not a "believer". I'm a "see-er"; I base my worldview on what I experinece consciously, with preferential treatment to concepts that I can align with the observations of others.
 Quoting: MCRock 951075



I think I ("you", "we"?) are separated into at least 2 parts. The "consciousness" part and "subconsciousness" part. The "consciousness" part is the perceptor that has power of will, intention. The "subconsiousness" part is the creator, the "one behind the curtain" that creates in accordance with the "consiousness" beliefs and actions. The "consciousness" part is an ego of the subconscious.

If we take this a step further and think for a moment the subconsciouss may actually be a part of an even higher self that created the conscious/subconscious duality for the purpose of learning. Perhaps this was the most effective, efficient way it can learn. If so the subconscious is VERY VERY POWERFUL. If one could figure out how to manipulate the subconsiouness to one's will, well then what do we have here? It would be similar to the lucid dream state. In this "waking reality" think hypnosis. What do you think hypnosis is? It is method of having access to and indirectly affecting the subconsious.

If this makes sense and has some basis in truth, then the subconsiousness is part of "my" "your" our" own good. Whether the conscious experience is good or bad from to the "ego", the expoerience and information is an invaluable source to the "higher self". If this is true, then is the "ego" just a tool for the "Higher Self" to be discarded once it served its purpose? Perhaps this is basis for the Ego's fear. Due to the hidden duality (Separation) from the subconsciousness, perhaps the "ego" is originally endowed with distrust and then becomes overwhelmed with the idea that once it serves it purpose it will die thereby creating the basis of HUGE fear. And going back to the conscious/subconscious model, the "ego's" fear has an indirect affect on the subconsciouss which in turn creates reality that turns out to be horrible for the ego.


With that said, if any of what "I" said above is true, "I" ("you", "we") should take a serious study in the subconsiousness and the principles of hypnosis. That will provide great answers to the mystery before us and aid in creating a better "reality".
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P.S. Why is this Pinned?
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stfu you tool
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"Our spirits are being tested and refined here. This existence is just a training ground for what is to come. Most of us have lost sight of the fact"

lol

our spirits? you mean invisible idea things?

and its like school so they are tested? you test spirits?
and if your god and you know everything you test them anyway so that you can give out a grade that you knew they would get?

and we lost sight of these facts?

wonder how?

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396


Not invisible in one sense but we can't see them in a physical sense. Yes, as a matter of speaking. we receive a 'grade'.

The heart of the matter is to focus and to leave what is of this world behind, Don't starve, but be above it.

You are right in one aspect, you get 'graded' whether you want it or not. My Living God does the 'grading' I don't. I'm just a messenger.

Peace be with you
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Re: If you create your own reality, why does everyone have basically the same one???
Search for the thread "video that will change your life".
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or you could read the people that actually came up with the idea that had brains

jung freud and adler

that way when someone says "i think there are two parts- the unconscious and the...."

you can say- wow- thats what freud thought too! you are a genious!

lol
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Yeah Create your OWN Reality not surprise to sense so MANY SNAKE THINKING HERE!!!

You know WHAT SNAKE peoples your Black "Sun" Vril Reality is GOING DOWN !!!!


entk!!!
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Bedtime story:

Six blind men were asked to determine what an elephant looked like by feeling different parts of the elephant's body.

The blind man who feels a leg says the elephant is like a pillar; the one who feels the tail says the elephant is like a rope; the one who feels the trunk says the elephant is like a tree branch; the one who feels the ear says the elephant is like a hand fan; the one who feels the belly says the elephant is like a wall; and the one who feels the tusk says the elephant is like a solid pipe.
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lol

my time with the toltecs taught me that there is a serpant god

and

"Mesoamerican cultures, such as the Tarascans and Toltecs, performed human sacrifices as well. ..."
holypedia


-so the toltecs are wonderful and wise
-if you like serpant gods and killing people

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396



Modern day Toltecs, dummy.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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"You are right in one aspect, you get 'graded' whether you want it or not. My Living God does the 'grading' I don't. I'm just a messenger.

not a very good one

your "living god" (are those that have a dead god?)
sounds alot like your school days and some conflict with your dad.

but God- in all his wisdom has sent a messanger to us -
in the form of a message board guy with no orignal thinking or creative ideas

your living god needs a living editor for the living messengers
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You don't create your own reality. You may influence it but not create it.
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"Modern day Toltecs, dummy"

the progeny of a wiped out race that liked to cut hearts out of people?

ok - i guess i could talk to a modern toltec

right after i talk to the modern Dorian greeks, and the Etruscans and i will ask a Persian (iran) what to do next

lol
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You don't create your own reality. You may influence it but not create it.
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ye, its only to a certain extent

like we are all human and all have to eat, shit the basics.. etc.. if u want to stay alive thats how it is, after death... well thats another story

but the rest is up to us
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"Modern day Toltecs, dummy"

the progeny of a wiped out race that liked to cut hearts out of people?

ok - i guess i could talk to a modern toltec

right after i talk to the modern Dorian greeks, and the Etruscans and i will ask a Persian (iran) what to do next

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396



Maybe you should. You might just learn something.
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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lol- so i can learn....

What we live in is NOT reality, it is merely a dream. It is the dream of the planet.

...that the earth is dreaming

thanks

new agers have all the knowledge of the cosmos

and use this ifinite wisdom just like a kid on a computer- to type messages on a conspiracy board


how about chicks that aren't all that pretty so they go for that wierdo appeal- which is kinda smart actually

which is why you never see hot looking straight wiccans or anything
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Because you have 6 Billion people all been told what to create.


...and is reinforced through the biggest mind control machine on the planet...television

is it any wonder why the 6 o'clock news is filled with fear related BS?

is it any wonder why the commercials are all centered around materialism and ego?

our minds are clay and have been molded by those in power ever since we were old enough to go to school. we were taught never to "talk back" (or question) our elders, teachers, religious figures and government while believing everything they said as the "truth".

the real truth is inside you.

if you follow your heart, you'll ALWAYS be led in the right direction

if you buy into this reality, then this is what you'll receive.

it's all changing right now. the elite are collapsing right before our eyes as evidenced by the plethora of BS they throwing at us all at once. They're imploding. We're gonna see more and more whistleblowers in the very near future... some will be blowing the whistle on government officials while others will be unleashing suppressed secrets such as free energy.

there's no greater time to be alive than right now!
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well said, thanks:)

hf
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life is a microcosm of a macrocosm. Much like our own government, Lifes realities are a consensus. What we all believe at the subconsciousness level en mass becomes reality for all. This is true democracy. Throughout history there has been a select few who (for whatever reason) do not perceive life the same as me and you. some autistic,some schizophrenic, some psychotic, broken brains all, or lifetimes of discipline (monastic life)used to perceive a fraction more of reality than our little brains employ.

Because reality is formed by the mass effect of human thought it is important to continue feeding fear to the population in order to divide and conquer. Each minute of your existence could easily be reduced to a conscience choice, Fear or Love.

This is the Grand illusion, A democracy, and a good reason to study Qi-Gong. On the lighter side, The hindi have a saying= we are all just God hiding from himself.
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"if you follow your heart, you'll ALWAYS be led in the right direction"

lol

yes people that follow their "heart" always are doing good

i say that to corpses of women killed by their husbands with broken hearts

lol
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I believe the human brain is more powerful than we think. our thoughts can manipulate the reality. We are really co-creators... not a single creator. Also, if that is the case then maybe we all collectively created the universe... and collectively we could be considered a single entity or many. Consciousness is eternal.

Also, every time we dream, we are creating an entirely new universe from nothing using our own thoughts. The reason I believe this is... how is a dream any less fake than the real world we live in? They are both a way of experiencing the world through the brainwaves we receive through our senses and interpret.
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stoner like the way you say it
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i think a faggy wimpy new ager should walk up to a truck driver and say

"you child with spina bifida created their own reality- to see if they could overcome dying at 3 "

because faggy chakra beleiving crystal ball fags are real good at working within the social structure

is it possible that the child chose to come here to experience spinal bifida?

is it possible that the children who are abused were child abusers in previous lifetimes?

yeah, both situations suck but they're both a matter of perspective. I choose to be outside the box and optimistic.

you choose to be inside the box and pessimistic

either way, it happened. how we process it differs. I hope you feel like a real man by name calling and judging others who don't believe what you believe

them some wise words right there. people need to get off this hatred/slow vibrations/ negative energies... the positive side feels so much better :)
 Quoting: Truthseekr


i'd rather look at reality honestly than feel good and be some deluded new-ager who is too cowardly to see reality for what it is. And cowardice is the apt word, because those anyone can see the horrible truth if they want, but some people are just too scared and would rather pretend to be blind.
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"if you follow your heart, you'll ALWAYS be led in the right direction"

lol

yes people that follow their "heart" always are doing good

i say that to corpses of women killed by their husbands with broken hearts

lol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946396

You keep bringing up examples of people you've read or heard about (retarded children, murdered women, etc). How do you even know that all of what you see or hear about is true and not just a complete illusion?

You've convinced yourself that the "news" and the "misfortunate" are actually real and this is your problem. Stop telling others about how creating what YOU want in your OWN life won't help starving children in Africa and actually apply it to your own life, you dummy.
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What if C-A-T really spells dog?
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spockNot logical!. All perception may be rooted in the illusary web Maya weaves to create our overwhelming sense of seperateness on this plane of existence but one pervailing Truth remains certain.

One sniff of that cat shit might crack your cosmic egg irreperably!
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Life is a continuum.
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Make that Prevailing Truth!.
spock
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I agree with some of your assertions and challenge others. Belief has no effect on reality. I can believe all day long that athing will or won't or is or isn't; all that does is expend energy. Belief can have an effect on how I process and react to reality.

I disagree with your second assertion. We didn't have to turn over the idea of creator to anyone or anything. We just did out of lack of time to think about it.

I agree with your third assertion almost without reservation.

I REALLY like your string analogy to reality; it may be one of the best I've ever heard.

As a being who can process and deal with time in a linear fashion ONLY, the concept of anything or anyone that is outside of my experience or ability to influence are not practical things to dwell on. Recreationally, it's fun to do so, though.
 Quoting: MCRock 951075


What I mean by belief dictating the probability of our desired reality is like this:

I can desire a suitecase full of hundreds to fall from the sky onto my driveway, and in the great realm of things that can happen (its more likely than humans having developed out of water and swamp gas), but I don't really believe it will, which means it probably won't. But I do believe I could walk down the street and find a dollar's worth of change laying around, and if I tried it 10 times, I'd probably succeed at finding the change more often than not.
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You don't create your own reality. You may influence it but not create it.


ye, its only to a certain extent

like we are all human and all have to eat, shit the basics.. etc.. if u want to stay alive thats how it is, after death... well thats another story

but the rest is up to us
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nope. theres people practicing living off nothing but sunlight and meditation- look it up. Some call it impossible- but to others- its simply tapping in to consciousness and Life...
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We are as holographic movie projectors on a quantum screen. There is a pre-determined film and Light which vibrates through us reflectors, which we render as creation. Unlike a film projector, we are able to change the film, the Light, before it is rendered, if we wish. Most do not. If we do not consciously modify the Light, we project that which is in the 'default Light'. Either way, we are still all co-creators. The common Light underpinning the process of creation is why we all get 'the same' creation.
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Well stated.





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