Dead Fish start coming ashore in Louisiana

This is only one more evidence that something want this world to be in chaos.

We have the technology and people to fix this and every other mess on the planet in days. Now, who doesnt want that? Think.

Dip shits, stop quoting each other.

You measures 7 million gallons coming out of the well? Let us see your methodollogy so we can review it. The media TOLD you 7 million gallons leaked out of the well, and they told you the WTC collapsed after being hit by airplanes highjacked by Muslims....They told you an airplane crahed into the pentagon....when are you going to stop believeing the media?

Moderate huh?

[link to www.sciencecorps.org]

Crude Oil Health Hazards Fact Sheet

Dr. Michael Harbut, Karmanos Cancer Institute

Dr. Kathleen Burns, Sciencecorps

Many people will be exposed to crude oil as a result of the BP Gulf of Mexico spill. It is important to understand the potential toxic effects and take appropriate steps to prevent or reduce exposure and harm. This fact sheet provides a health hazard summary, and links to more detailed information.

Crude oil contains hundreds of chemicals, comprised primarily of hydrogen and carbon (e.g., simple straight chain paraffins, aromatic ring structures, naphthenes), with some sulfur, nitrogen, metal, and oxygen compounds (see Table D-1 in CDC, 1999 linked below). Crude oil composition varies slightly by its source, but its toxic properties are fairly consistent. Chemicals such as benzene and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs) are very toxic components of crude oil and of high concern.

Exposure

Exposure can occur through skin contact, inhalation of contaminated air or soil, and ingestion of contaminated water or food. These can occur simultaneously. Exposure pathways may result in localized toxicity (e.g., irritation of the skin following contact), but most health effects are systemic because ingredients can move throughout the body. Exposure varies based on the duration and concentrations in contaminated media. Differences may result from location, work and personal activities, age, diet, use of protective equipment, and other factors. Concurrent exposure to other toxic chemicals must be considered when evaluating toxic effects. Some chemicals in crude oil are volatile, moving into air easily, and these can often be detectable by smell.

Basic Physiological Effects

Crude oil is a complex mixture of chemicals that have varying abilities to be absorbed into the body through the skin, lungs, and during digestion of food and water. Most components of crude oil enter the bloodstream rapidly when they are inhaled or swallowed. Crude oil contains chemicals that readily penetrate cell walls, damage cell structures, including DNA, and alter the function of the cells and the organs where they are located. Crude oil is toxic, and ingredients can damage every system in the body:

respiratory

Nervous system, including the brain

liver
reproductive/urogenital system

kidneys
endocrine system

circulatory system

gastrointestinal system

immune system

sensory systems

musculoskeletal system


Damaging or altering these systems causes a wide range of diseases and conditions. In addition, interference with normal growth and development through endocrine disruption and direct damage to fetal tissue is caused by many crude oil ingredients (CDC, 1999). DNA damage can cause cancer and multi-generational birth defects.

Acute Exposure Hazards - brief exposure at relatively high levels[1]

Crude oil contains many chemicals that can irritate the skin and mucous membranes on contact. Irritant effects can range from slight reddening to burning, swelling (edema), pain,and permanent skin damage. Commonly reported effects of acute exposure to crude oil through inhalation or ingestion include difficulty breathing, headaches, dizziness, nausea, confusion, and other central nervous system effects. These are more likely to be noticed than potentially more serious effects that don't have obvious signs and symptoms: lung, liver and kidney damage, infertility, immune system suppression, disruption of hormone levels, blood disorders, mutations, and cancer.



Chronic Exposure Hazards - long-term exposure at relatively low levels


This type of exposure should be avoided, if at all possible, because the potential for serious health damage is substantial. Chronic health effects are typically evaluated for specific crude oil components (see CDC, 1999), and vary from cancer to permanent neurological damage. They cover a range of diseases affecting all the organ systems listed above.



Susceptible Subgroups



Children are vulnerable to toxic chemicals in crude oil that disrupt normal growth and development. Their brains are highly susceptible to many neurotoxic ingredients. Endocrine disruptors in crude oil can cause abnormal growth, infertility, and other health conditions. Children's exposures may be higher than adults and can include contaminated soil or sand. Newborns are especially vulnerable due to incompletely formed immune and detoxification systems.



Many people with medical conditions are more susceptible to crude oil toxicity because chemical ingredients can damage organ systems that are already impaired. Specific susceptibilities depend on the medical condition (e.g., inhalation poses risks for those with asthma and other respiratory conditions).


People taking medications that reduce their detoxification ability, and those taking acetaminophen, aspirin, haloperidol, who have nutritional deficiencies or who concurrently drink alcohol may be more susceptible. Some inherited enzyme deficiencies also increase susceptibility (listed in CDC, 1999).


People exposed to other toxic chemicals at work or home may be at higher risk.



Pregnancy places increased stress on many organ systems, including the liver, kidneys, and cardiovascular system. Chemicals in crude oil that are toxic to these same systems can pose serious health risks. Pregnancy also requires a careful balance of hormones to maintain a health pregnancy and healthy baby. Endocrine disruptors in crude oil can jeopardize the hormone balance.


The developing fetus is susceptible to the toxic effects of many chemicals in crude oil. Many cause mutations, endocrine disruption, skeletal deformities, and other types of birth defects.


Personal and Public Protection

It is critical that people who work with or around crude oil wear appropriate personal protective equipment such as gloves, masks, respirators, and water repellant clothing, to minimize exposure. The necessary equipment will depend on the kind of exposure that can occur (dermal, inhalation, ingestion). See OSHA guidance at OSHA 2010 link below. Susceptible members of the public require notice when exposure may occur (e.g., when contaminated air masses move inland) so they can take protective actions.





Sources



CDC, 1999: [link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]



OSHA, 2010: [link to www.osha.gov]



NLM: [link to sis.nlm.nih.gov] - very limited information on human health



The National Toxicology Program (NIEHS-NIH) provides information on carcinogenic crude oil ingredients (e.g., benzene) & limited information on reproductive hazards [link to ntp.niehs.nih.gov]



California's EPA provides a list of chemicals know to cause cancer and/or reproductive harm: [link to www.oehha.org]


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Polychem Dispersit

COMPARATIVE MARINE TOXICITY
Toxicity is determined by the effect of the dispersant mixed with No. 2 fuel, oil 10:1 on Menidia Beryllina and Mysidopsis Bahia after 96 and 48 hours respectively. The oil itself is toxic at about 11 PPM. Corexit 9500 with oil is toxic at 2.61 PPM upon Menidia and 3.4 PPM upon Mysidopsis. Dispersit with oil is toxic at 7.9 PPM upon Menidia and 8.2 PPM upon Mysidopsis. Thus, the toxicity of the waterbased alternative is one half to one third the toxicity than that of the petroleum based product. Toxicity testing was performed on Dispersit by Coastal Bioanalysts Gloucester, VA.

COMPARATIVE HUMAN HEALTH EFFECTS
A review of the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) of Dispersit and any oil based dispersant illustrates the dramatic difference between the water and oil based effects on human health. Dispersit is essentially water and surfactant (soap). The application of Dispersit via spray should be conducted using goggles, gloves and respirator to avoid discomfort. The potential health effect is “slight to none” with protective equipment. As stated in MSDS, Corexit 9500 can cause central nervous system depression, nausea, and unconsciousness. It can cause liver, kidney damage, and red blood cell hemolysis with repeated or prolonged exposure through inhalation or ingestion according to the MSDS. The threat to human health via exposure is characterized a “MODERATE”. In sum, waterbased Dispersit is a material improvement in human health effects when responding to an oil spill.

Thank you for being the only intelligent perosn posting on this thread. It figures your from northern europe. Im afraid my own countrymen are too dumbed down and brainwashed to understand how they are spoonfed what to think and what to hate.

LOL, I have to agree. There is no point in repeating stupidity, nunless of course you want to point it out.
Every one of these greentard so called enviromentalists is a fucking hypocrite

Some just aren't worth stressing over, Jen. That poster has only one thread posted. It's here: Thread: Blowout in Gulf venting mainly gas, doom is over

Not too hard to figure out.

Be in this world but not of it. All these distractions... why?

You do realize of course that every substance has some level of toxicity, right? Having studied organic chemistry, I think I am a bit more qualified than you to understand the toxicity of crude oil. Did you know that water is toxic? I bet not. Did you know that there are chemicals used to preserve your frozen entree that are far worst than aromatic hydrocarbons? DO you understand thet those in control dont give a damneed if you eat poison as long as you believe and do what they tell you to. Fucking reactionary fucktards

BTW, why dont you read the entire thread you posted a link to, you will dam sure be a hell of lot more eductaed on the subject than you are now. Quit listening to people who dont know anything. Ive been in this business for 20 years and oil is not the unnatural kiler its being made out to be. Its a naturally occuring substance that leaks out into the gulf constantly, and the gulf has a biological method of cleaning it up.

Things happen, sometimes by accident and sometimes as part of greater plan. I'll let you guess yourself which you think this spill is...

So far not one single plant or animal has died from the oil spill that has been confirmed. Not a single one folks...

Shut the fuck up.

What is this? Normal rituals for animals to wash up on the shore?

Get a fucking clue!

'Confirmed' - if your kid got shot, and they said it was suicide - we can't investigate because it's not confirmed he was killed, you would be okay? because it can't be confirmed?

Don't be a fuckin shill - and learn to look at facts and draw the conclusions!

Dr. Michael Harbut, Karmanos Cancer Institute

Dr. Kathleen Burns, Sciencecorps

I will take their advice, rather than some fuckin GLP expert..

Admitted oil industry employee..

Hope your happy, you fuckin incompetent dipshits. Take that to your bosses..

You guys fucked up our oceans and now you call us hypocrites and babies and lie about how toxic this shit isnt..

You are a absolute liar and you know it...

I challenge you to show me one thing that says crude oil IS NOT toxic...Not to mention fucking dispersant that is being sprayed 5000ft below...

Immediate fish kill from contact with the effects of the oil spill probably are occurring. But a larger concern (for me) is the longer range effects to the Gulf's ecosystem which I am already starting to see in various NOAA supplied maps. At the site of the spill the concentration of the oil is so high that nothing survives, zooplankton, shrimp etc.. But what happens away from the spill as it becomes less concentrated and time for degradation applies it becomes a algal nutrient that creates an algal biomass. The biomass can result in a harmful algal bloom that is toxic to fish life and can produce red tide. In looking at recent maps I have seen some anomalous chlorophyll concentrations (an indicator) located West and adjacent to the spill and suspect this may be the development of a HAB. NOAA has not as yet issued a warning.
The point is that we may be seeing fish kill, losses in the fishing industry and a dead of critically injured Gulf for some time to come.

900 is just a

In case anyone didn't see it in the other thread

[link to www.boston.com]

You have no idea of my qualifications, you little shill, so don't even go there.

Why don't you have a galon of OIL for breakfast everyday to see if your body also has a biological method of cleaning it up!!??????

I did read the entire thread I posted a link to, and yes, I am a lot more educated now. Educated on your methods. You need to have your handlers print you a sheet of responses and never vary from them. You'd do better than this, posted in your other thread:


Blowout in Gulf venting mainly gas, doom is over

There is little immeadiate danger from the pollution of the air with natural gas,

With the well venting mostly gas, the ecological doom factor is gone.

Unfortunately, the dispersants are high;y toxic and will probably contaminate bottom dwelling sea life.

The BP represnetative told congress yesterday that they are prepared to pay off all ligitimate damages, it cant be all that bad or he'd be saying they can't afford to.

The good news is the well is only producing a small amount of oil at this point. Less oil means less shoreline damage and less need for dispersants, so yes, it's very good news. It means the doom is over

No chance, I know a doom level event when I see one and this isnt it. Even if it catches fire it will only kill off a few thousand people.

Suck my ass, fucktard. I just came here to offer a a proper perspective on whats going on. Dont like it, FO

Agreed, I'd like to stop listening to people who don't "know anything," but you won't shut up. Shill.

Nine's nli

Because I can

I have a pretty good idea of your intelligence and your level of education from listening to you speak, and you don't come across to be as having any knowledge of organic chemistry nor crude oil, or anyhting else for that matter. And you havent addressed the hypcorisy issue. You do depend on the oil industry for your lifestyle, and you ARE attacking a hard working individual who makes it possible because youre too stupid to realize what youre demanding would mean.. The toxicicty of crude oil as it comes from the ground is quickly mitigated by mechanical seperation and evaoporation. Its the short chained hydrocarbons that are more toxic, and they evaporate away.

Asphalt IS toxic, and you drive on it every day. The fumes from ashphalt can make people sick because of aromatic hydrocarbons evaoprating away. We live in a toxic enviroment, and most of the toxicity is naturally occuring. You greentards havent addressed the hypocrisy issue yet....

BOYCOTT BP NOW. Stop buying their gas, period. Hurt those incompetent, lying SOB's in the only way that they understand. Their wallets. 5000 barrels of oil gushing into the Gulf a day? More like 25,000 according to Skytruth.org.

Why?

The same people own all the oil anyways.

They don't give a fuck.

Corporations are just shells in which they move and control money