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South Korean Corvette Sunk By Israeli Dolphin Class Submarine

 
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During the recent skirmish between North and South Korea, the South Korean Corvette was sunk, as it has been revealed by a torpedo.

Consider the South Korean ship's specifications:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Speed: Maximum 32 knots (59 km/h)
Cruising 15 knots (28 km/h)[2]

Armament: 4 × Harpoon missiles,
2 × OTO Melara(76mm)/62 compact cannons
2 × Breda 40mm/70 cannons,
6 × Mark 46 torpedoes,
12 × Mark 9 depth charges [3][2]

This was a fast ship, and in combat would presumably be:

moving at full speed,

and maneuvering to avoid enemy fire AND possible torpedos.

The Cheonan was sunk by a torpedo.

Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.

The Cheosan was capable of almost 60 km/hr, and maneuverable.

Unless the South Korean Captain was suicidal, a torpedo hit from several thousand yards off would be the wildest stroke of luck.

A submarine had to be BETWEEN the fighting ships.

It was close enough to fire the tropedo, have it arm and strike the Cheosan.

Israel operates the Dolphin Class submarine, reparation gifts to Israel from Germany (for the Holocaust).

They fire 2 types of torpedos:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Armament: 6 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes,
4 x 25.5 inch (650 mm) diameter torpedo tubes

The Israelis are based out of Cam Ranh Bay Vietnam. They are there to train Vietnamese crews who are purchasing 6 Soviet submarines.

The Vietnamese use Communist equipment.

Here are the types used and available for sale from China:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

324mm Yu-7 · ET-52

350mm APR-3E

450mm Yu-2

533mm Yu-8 · Yu-6 · C43 · Yu-5 · Yu-4 · Yu-3 · Yu-1 · ET32 · ET34 · ET36 · Type 53-65 · VA-111 Shkval

650mm Type 65


Rocket-propelled CY-1 · CY-2 · CY-3 · CJ-1


Note that they also use the same diameter of torpedo as the Israeli Dolphin Class.

So theoretically, the Dolphin Class can fire Chinese torpedos.

North Korea also uses Chinese Torpedos.

Israel has recently accused North Korea of giving Syria WMD's.
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Maybe, but how would a war in Korea be "good for the Jews"?
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possible.
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Maybe, but how would a war in Korea be "good for the Jews"?
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I believe this was a "dry run".

Iran has their own version of the VA-111 Shkval:

Google "iran shkval" and you can see video of one. I won't post the link as it is hosted on a competetor of GLP.

If a Dolphin can get between a fight between two ships, they can effectively launch a Shval and make it look like one side torpedoed the other.

The big game is an American Aircraft carrier.

Another Pearl Harbor and a ready made war wher the US carries the load and suffers the losses and Israel gets security from Iranian nukes.
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5a

OP you are at best delusional at worst a SHILL. Using Wiki as a source tells me you don't know the first thing about actual academic research. EPIC FAIL!
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Holy Cow is a Zionistic SHILL!

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During the recent skirmish between North and South Korea, the South Korean Corvette was sunk, as it has been revealed by a torpedo.

Consider the South Korean ship's specifications:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Speed: Maximum 32 knots (59 km/h)
Cruising 15 knots (28 km/h)[2]

Armament: 4 × Harpoon missiles,
2 × OTO Melara(76mm)/62 compact cannons
2 × Breda 40mm/70 cannons,
6 × Mark 46 torpedoes,
12 × Mark 9 depth charges [3][2]

This was a fast ship, and in combat would presumably be:

moving at full speed,

and maneuvering to avoid enemy fire AND possible torpedos.

The Cheonan was sunk by a torpedo.

Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.

The Cheosan was capable of almost 60 km/hr, and maneuverable.

Unless the South Korean Captain was suicidal, a torpedo hit from several thousand yards off would be the wildest stroke of luck.

A submarine had to be BETWEEN the fighting ships.

It was close enough to fire the tropedo, have it arm and strike the Cheosan.

Israel operates the Dolphin Class submarine, reparation gifts to Israel from Germany (for the Holocaust).

They fire 2 types of torpedos:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Armament: 6 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes,
4 x 25.5 inch (650 mm) diameter torpedo tubes

The Israelis are based out of Cam Ranh Bay Vietnam. They are there to train Vietnamese crews who are purchasing 6 Soviet submarines.

The Vietnamese use Communist equipment.

Here are the types used and available for sale from China:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

324mm Yu-7 · ET-52

350mm APR-3E

450mm Yu-2

533mm Yu-8 · Yu-6 · C43 · Yu-5 · Yu-4 · Yu-3 · Yu-1 · ET32 · ET34 · ET36 · Type 53-65 · VA-111 Shkval

650mm Type 65


Rocket-propelled CY-1 · CY-2 · CY-3 · CJ-1


Note that they also use the same diameter of torpedo as the Israeli Dolphin Class.

So theoretically, the Dolphin Class can fire Chinese torpedos.

North Korea also uses Chinese Torpedos.

Israel has recently accused North Korea of giving Syria WMD's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969289

Your agruement is dismissed as speculative and is woefully lacking substinent facts.
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North Korea gains nothing from war.

Israel has accused North Korea for giving Iran and Syria WMD's.

IF America won't attack Iran, perhaps Israel can get them to attack Iran's backers, North Korea and the Chinese and maybe the Russians.

Israel can then:

sit back and watch, allowing the US carriers to attack Iran

or bide their time to hit Iran later or continue the program of government destabilization
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Maybe, but how would a war in Korea be "good for the Jews"?


I believe this was a "dry run".

Iran has their own version of the VA-111 Shkval:

Google "iran shkval" and you can see video of one. I won't post the link as it is hosted on a competetor of GLP.

If a Dolphin can get between a fight between two ships, they can effectively launch a Shval and make it look like one side torpedoed the other.

The big game is an American Aircraft carrier.

Another Pearl Harbor and a ready made war wher the US carries the load and suffers the losses and Israel gets security from Iranian nukes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969289




Good work, OP. You can bet that Israel is working overtime to back the US into a corner and get the US to do it's dirty work.
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Maybe, but how would a war in Korea be "good for the Jews"?
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not jews. zionists.
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What is interesting of this affair--Months pass and S. Korea did not accuse North Korea of any attack but possibly and old seamine hit. Why now and guess who the countries investigating--UK USA Sweden--nice scum lying lot.This week @sshole Hillary threatened North Korea--USA will get after them. Slip the bitchWitch--please someone now :^/
Regarding what }sreal gets out of it--Zionks (Jews) control/own most of the military hardware producing companies. }srael is actually a private run military base funded by America for employment of X-Russians
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Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.


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lol BS You do know that a torpedo doesn't even need to actually hit a ship to sink it? Of course you didn't

They are designed to detonate on contact with, or in proximity to a target
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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During the recent skirmish between North and South Korea, the South Korean Corvette was sunk, as it has been revealed by a torpedo.

Consider the South Korean ship's specifications:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Speed: Maximum 32 knots (59 km/h)
Cruising 15 knots (28 km/h)[2]

Armament: 4 × Harpoon missiles,
2 × OTO Melara(76mm)/62 compact cannons
2 × Breda 40mm/70 cannons,
6 × Mark 46 torpedoes,
12 × Mark 9 depth charges [3][2]

This was a fast ship, and in combat would presumably be:

moving at full speed,

and maneuvering to avoid enemy fire AND possible torpedos.

The Cheonan was sunk by a torpedo.

Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.

The Cheosan was capable of almost 60 km/hr, and maneuverable.

Unless the South Korean Captain was suicidal, a torpedo hit from several thousand yards off would be the wildest stroke of luck.

A submarine had to be BETWEEN the fighting ships.

It was close enough to fire the tropedo, have it arm and strike the Cheosan.

Israel operates the Dolphin Class submarine, reparation gifts to Israel from Germany (for the Holocaust).

They fire 2 types of torpedos:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Armament: 6 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes,
4 x 25.5 inch (650 mm) diameter torpedo tubes

The Israelis are based out of Cam Ranh Bay Vietnam. They are there to train Vietnamese crews who are purchasing 6 Soviet submarines.

The Vietnamese use Communist equipment.

Here are the types used and available for sale from China:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

324mm Yu-7 · ET-52

350mm APR-3E

450mm Yu-2

533mm Yu-8 · Yu-6 · C43 · Yu-5 · Yu-4 · Yu-3 · Yu-1 · ET32 · ET34 · ET36 · Type 53-65 · VA-111 Shkval

650mm Type 65


Rocket-propelled CY-1 · CY-2 · CY-3 · CJ-1


Note that they also use the same diameter of torpedo as the Israeli Dolphin Class.

So theoretically, the Dolphin Class can fire Chinese torpedos.

North Korea also uses Chinese Torpedos.

Israel has recently accused North Korea of giving Syria WMD's.

Your agruement is dismissed as speculative and is woefully lacking substinent facts.
 Quoting: Johnny B Good


like your existence ?
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Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.



lol BS You do know that a torpedo doesn't even need to actually hit a ship to sink it? Of course you didn't

They are designed to detonate on contact with, or in proximity to a target
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you proved his point
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A super huge bubble broke the ships back. Lifted it up and broke it.
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Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.



lol BS You do know that a torpedo doesn't even need to actually hit a ship to sink it? Of course you didn't

They are designed to detonate on contact with, or in proximity to a target


you proved his point
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Hardly...and of course you have to ignore the fact the the SK Navy recovered the remains of the torpedo

Its the JOOOS lol


NOT!
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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Maybe, but how would a war in Korea be "good for the Jews"?


not jews. zionists.
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Well as example, let's look at the War on Terror.

In Iraq, the average number of bullets to kill one Iraqi grandmother, an Iraqi Christian, an Iraqi Muslim, an Iraqi Jew or and Iraqi preschooler is above 400,000 small arms bullets per kill. One 20 or 40 MM DU GE GAT bullet delivered to theater cost over 200$. Those GE (General Electric) GATS fire over 20,000 rounds a minute and are not included in this analysis. Now in cases where a pregnant Iraqi mother is killed, I guess one could count the kill as two, a shredded Iraqi mother with twins could be counted as 3.

I the Afghan theater, the bullets per kill is about 25% less, or around 300,000 per shredded Afghan.

Those small arms bullets are manufactured in Israel. Many of the DU Bullets are manufactured at Diamona, Israels weapons reactor.

The cost to deliver the bullets to theater is around 10$ per bullet.

So - as you can see - Israel, who does not manufacture skillets, or cars - infact - the only consumer goods Israel manufactures are salt crystals stolen from Palestine's Dead Sea.

One could easily say that Israel's most profitable export is conflict, for which the US Military Industrial Bankster Mafia pays, in total grants and aid, over 30 Billion a year, not including oil royalties Israel receives from the Kurdish Region of Iraq. Sy Hersch wrote a great article years back describing the Israeli - Kurd Connection (did anyone notice there were no mask security uniformed vendettas or suicide bombs in the Kurdish Region. All the danger was in Southern Iraq. For their partner in crime efforts, Israel regarded their Kurdish Gangster associates homesteads in occupied Palestine for a 100,000 Kurdish Brown Shirts.
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As an American, would it work?
Yes, my government WANTS our Navy attacked by 'Iran'.
They will not ask questions. They will not investigate. They will not tolerate conspiracy theories. Would shooting a torpedo FOR Iran work? The question is, is it possible for it to NOT WORK? Could it NOT WORK? Could the Israeli submarine be ON FILM, firing the torpedo, sporting Israeli flags, be on Gootube, and not work? No, it would still work; the video would be 'fake and a conspiracy theory'. Sounds dead on. I tried to look at that Island on goo earth, it is warped out, cant even make out buildings. It is an Island IN North Korea, like 7miles from their coastline, clearly one of our main spook bases against North Korea. The idea that the North Koreans got a vehicle of any sort on the south side of that SPY BASE ISLAND, is ridiculous. You could not sneak a bird or a fish past there. Equally bad just saying these things, since Israel is not all that clever. They see YOUR IDEA, and then do it. As I said, WHY NOT do it? It could not fail. My bought out government will rubberstamp agreement that 'Iran attacked' the same hour. Exactly the way they will start a war, and it will work.
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By way of deception, thou shalt do war.
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OP is an idiot. NK has diesel electric submarines. even though they aren't the most up to date d/e subs are very hard to detect. would have been no problem for them to sink a surface ship that wasn't exactly prepared to fight a war.
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OP I have speculated on this possibility since
hearing about this incident, it is an interesting
possibility.
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it was osama with a snorkle mask. Armed with a can opener.
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OP is an idiot. NK has diesel electric submarines. even though they aren't the most up to date d/e subs are very hard to detect. would have been no problem for them to sink a surface ship that wasn't exactly prepared to fight a war.
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The Dolphin is a diesel/electric sub
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Hardly...and of course you have to ignore the fact the the SK Navy recovered the remains of the torpedo

Its the JOOOS lol

NOT!
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it must be hard to stamp korean letters on an old torpedo.
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During the recent skirmish between North and South Korea, the South Korean Corvette was sunk, as it has been revealed by a torpedo.

Consider the South Korean ship's specifications:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Speed: Maximum 32 knots (59 km/h)
Cruising 15 knots (28 km/h)[2]

Armament: 4 × Harpoon missiles,
2 × OTO Melara(76mm)/62 compact cannons
2 × Breda 40mm/70 cannons,
6 × Mark 46 torpedoes,
12 × Mark 9 depth charges [3][2]

This was a fast ship, and in combat would presumably be:

moving at full speed,

and maneuvering to avoid enemy fire AND possible torpedos.

The Cheonan was sunk by a torpedo.

Consider that the North Korean ship could not have been the source of the torpedo.

The North Korean Captain would have to calculate where the Cheosan would be at the precise moment the torpedos hit.

The Cheosan was capable of almost 60 km/hr, and maneuverable.

Unless the South Korean Captain was suicidal, a torpedo hit from several thousand yards off would be the wildest stroke of luck.

A submarine had to be BETWEEN the fighting ships.

It was close enough to fire the tropedo, have it arm and strike the Cheosan.

Israel operates the Dolphin Class submarine, reparation gifts to Israel from Germany (for the Holocaust).

They fire 2 types of torpedos:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Armament: 6 × 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes,
4 x 25.5 inch (650 mm) diameter torpedo tubes

The Israelis are based out of Cam Ranh Bay Vietnam. They are there to train Vietnamese crews who are purchasing 6 Soviet submarines.

The Vietnamese use Communist equipment.

Here are the types used and available for sale from China:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

324mm Yu-7 · ET-52

350mm APR-3E

450mm Yu-2

533mm Yu-8 · Yu-6 · C43 · Yu-5 · Yu-4 · Yu-3 · Yu-1 · ET32 · ET34 · ET36 · Type 53-65 · VA-111 Shkval

650mm Type 65


Rocket-propelled CY-1 · CY-2 · CY-3 · CJ-1


Note that they also use the same diameter of torpedo as the Israeli Dolphin Class.

So theoretically, the Dolphin Class can fire Chinese torpedos.

North Korea also uses Chinese Torpedos.

Israel has recently accused North Korea of giving Syria WMD's.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969289

wow... what a pile of idiotic, made-up bullshit!
I do not post the BS flag often, but this post is so overwhelmingly stupid that it must be done...

bsflag
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bump

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OP is an idiot. NK has diesel electric submarines. even though they aren't the most up to date d/e subs are very hard to detect. would have been no problem for them to sink a surface ship that wasn't exactly prepared to fight a war.
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not to put too fine a point on it:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Dolphin-class submarine (2008)

Builders: Howaldtswerke-Deutsche Werft (HDW)
Operators: Israeli Navy
Completed: Dolphin
Leviathan
Tekumah (trans. "Revival")
Active: 3 (+2 taken delivery)


Type: Diesel-electric submarine
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So I suppose the Israelis torpedoed the Deepwater as well? Maybe all on the same trip o'round the world?

Nah. Not buying either story.





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