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**BROKEN NEWS!**BP containment "Top Hat" Delayed, set back, failed, shit the bed...wtf eva

 
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SHR, when the oil starts spreading out, how thick is it in most places? I've heard all sorts of ranges, from just a thin film, to thick. And if it does vary (which I'm sure it does) what is the 'average'?

I don't know for sure and I doubt anyone does...I have read however that in some places it's 10's of feet thick..of course other places not..this is not a good oil to have a blowout with in the first place...it's loaded with other elements that make it emulsify with seawater and shit sinks...it gets like Oil mouse....dispersants are being thrown at it by the ton which also cause the oil to sink...I have not really been following the oil slick because to me it's irrelevant and a very minor problem as things stand now.


Out of curiosity (like I said, I haven't really been following this closely), point out the major problems. Is it the methane or something?

I will try and make a post later on and attempt to explain exactly what is going on and what we ALL FACE and explain the situation so anyone can understand and not get crazy technical because we should ALL know what is going on here.

I will say this...we are staring at very horrific potential here....this is real bad...and I'm not one to say that often...most of these might happen disaster scenarios have very little chance of being true or coming true and I do not worry at all about 999 out of a 1000 of all these ridiculous IMO Doom scenarios here. ...but this one is very real and it's potentially VERY bad...

I'm very busy today and only heard the news story and wanted to post it...I will be back later and try to lay it out...there are some very rational and very knowledgeable people here...listen to them.....


My thought exactly...

And I am one to always argue with 2012 people...

My girlfriend and I go rounds because she is scared to death because of all the shit she watches on TV...

But things have been getting weird lately, real weird..

Massive earthquakes, massive tornaoes, massive floods, volcanoes erupting, comets crashing into the sun, increased solar flares, huge magnetic filaments forming over the sun...

And now this, a massive Methane Gas and oil leak...

Too much shit is happening and its only fucking May..

I said it before, this has the "potential" to be the end, and thats for everyone and everything on earth..

No elites, no Al Gore, no taxes, no emission cuts...

Game Over
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not doom for everyone. think of it as the big evolution.
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

What is a illegal mexican?
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Mexican living in USA illegally.
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The pipe in those clips is 21 inchs, there is a lot of gas as well... if they do complete a link to bring the oil to the surface what happens to all of that gas? Is it normal for oil wells to have so much gas mixed in with the oil?

For Tibor it pretty much is, there is more gas than oil in this reserve.....they deal with the gas and they have the equiptment to do it...gas is common to be with oil. They also are well aware of hydrates and pretty much everything associated with oil production, they just have not been very good at estimating the volumes etc associated with dealing this blowout...
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Thanks... it's becoming more and more evident that harvesting the oil using any method is a long shot. Capping the main source at the BOP (in some manner) may be the only solution and that probably won't work either..

They will have to get at the well far below the seafloor to stop this disaster.. as you say, this could be more serious than most believe. The media must have more information than being released to the public. It's possible the Federal government is more involved in ways we are not aware.

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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

What is a illegal mexican?


Mexican living in USA illegally.
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I thought it was a rank fish taco
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I bet with all the methane bubbles its not even safe at all for them to even be anywhere over it.

My ideas is:

Take a heavy piece of alloy or rock and sharpen it at the point. Kind of like a wide plumb-bob. Attach wide fins with propellers to it which will be attached by leads to ships used to lower it in a coordinated effort. It will lodge itself in the hole. That's if it was a hole on the bottom.

But because its a pipe on its side maybe a giant slab will work better. A slab of something really heavy. take into account the contour of the bottom it will be resting on. Use guidelines from several ships-or propellers to steer it down, but let its weight guide it.
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I like it. A big-assed wedge or plug, starting with a point and then growing to 20 or 30 (or more) feet across at the end, and shaped like a elongated plumb bob and they drive it into the hole until it stops the leak. I like it!!
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I'm very busy today and only heard the news story and wanted to post it...I will be back later and try to lay it out...there are some very rational and very knowledgeable people here...listen to them.....


Your words are sobering. Thanks bro.
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They should be...

I will tell you all this...the shrimp, fish, all the little cute Nemos and Flippers getting dead is going to seem like a fucking day at Disneyland if this goes as bad as it is looking like it might.

It'll make Kartina and just about everything else that HAS happened seem like a day at Disneyland on free gold ingot day....

and that includes IXTOC I which we had months to prepare for and happened in 200 feet of water and STILL TOOK 9 MONTHS TO KILL...
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.
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Don't you mean "undocumented workers?"
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not doom for everyone. think of it as the big evolution.
ufo56the ride out of here...
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I agree, I'm not afraid of going...

I just dont want it to be slow, I dont want my kids to suffer..

I am in no way religious but I totally believe there is some kind of life after death...

We are an energy and totally connected to each other and our whole universe for that matter..

Anyway that is for another topic...

Let just hope they get this thing capped and fast...

I would suggest all us moran rack their brians to the fullest extent...

They are looking and pretty much begging for suggestions..

Admiral Thad Allen has said it multiple times...
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I'm very busy today and only heard the news story and wanted to post it...I will be back later and try to lay it out...there are some very rational and very knowledgeable people here...listen to them.....


Your words are sobering. Thanks bro.

They should be...

I will tell you all this...the shrimp, fish, all the little cute Nemos and Flippers getting dead is going to seem like a fucking day at Disneyland if this goes as bad as it is looking like it might.

It'll make Kartina and just about everything else that HAS happened seem like a day at Disneyland on free gold ingot day....

and that includes IXTOC I which we had months to prepare for and happened in 200 feet of water and STILL TOOK 9 MONTHS TO KILL...
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You need to hurry up with that post. hiding
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SHR, when the oil starts spreading out, how thick is it in most places? I've heard all sorts of ranges, from just a thin film, to thick. And if it does vary (which I'm sure it does) what is the 'average'?

I don't know for sure and I doubt anyone does...I have read however that in some places it's 10's of feet thick..of course other places not..this is not a good oil to have a blowout with in the first place...it's loaded with other elements that make it emulsify with seawater and shit sinks...it gets like Oil mouse....dispersants are being thrown at it by the ton which also cause the oil to sink...I have not really been following the oil slick because to me it's irrelevant and a very minor problem as things stand now.


Out of curiosity (like I said, I haven't really been following this closely), point out the major problems. Is it the methane or something?

I will try and make a post later on and attempt to explain exactly what is going on and what we ALL FACE and explain the situation so anyone can understand and not get crazy technical because we should ALL know what is going on here.

I will say this...we are staring at very horrific potential here....this is real bad...and I'm not one to say that often...most of these might happen disaster scenarios have very little chance of being true or coming true and I do not worry at all about 999 out of a 1000 of all these ridiculous IMO Doom scenarios here. ...but this one is very real and it's potentially VERY bad...

I'm very busy today and only heard the news story and wanted to post it...I will be back later and try to lay it out...there are some very rational and very knowledgeable people here...listen to them.....
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Thank you. It would be great to have some real information on what could happen with this. I can't really figure out what the real out come might be. So much disinformation on boht sides, like, its not that bad or this is the end of the world. Whats the truth?
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This is just one more way to tear down the country economically.

It blows my mind that not more people are aware of whats really going on.

The tourist trade for hotels, restaurants, ect is going to be devastating to this part of the country.

Not to mention the fishing industry.

This is not on the top of this administration's list. They don't give a royal doody.
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

What is a illegal mexican?


Mexican living in USA illegally.
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here we go, sinister bobble heads emerge..
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WHY is the media so silent on this? Where are they? They crucified Bush for far less!
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This is just one more way to tear down the country economically.

It blows my mind that not more people are aware of whats really going on.

The tourist trade for hotels, restaurants, ect is going to be devastating to this part of the country.

Not to mention the fishing industry.

This is not on the top of this administration's list. They don't give a royal doody.
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not to forget it could just blow the hell up and no one would have to worry about the tourist trade...
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

What is a illegal mexican?


Mexican living in USA illegally.
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You cant be that naive?
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WHY is the media so silent on this? Where are they? They crucified Bush for far less!
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Ain't that the TRUTH! We been took over, now they are killing us day by day inch by inch,
This should be the only thing that African is thinking about.. what's he doing??? trying to get more bs passed so we lose more and more money and freedom!
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Has absolutely no doubt in my mind this wouldnt work

Either will the "junk shot"
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one thing is for sure the human race is going to get the mother of all "money shots" from this.
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No reason given. Weird.
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And does the oil have any affect on surface tempature of water? Remember, just a couple degree change in water makes the hurricanes go off the charts...like Katrina did.
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I've checked it out...water's normal albedo is near zero absorbing most light...oil slicks have an interesting effect of preventing the heat sink into the lower levels of the hydrocline but over heats the very surface...how that effects the weather....haven't found that yet but I'm sure it won't be pleasent.
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*raises hand...

I have a question. Why aren't there shut off security measures in place for something that has the potential to lose more money than most countries on Earth, and at the SAME TIME being a huge geological disaster?


Does this just make too much sense?
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Always the same answer, cheaper to file BK, then pay up front to ensure safety.

NASA, or the military is the only ones who pay up front for safety.

BP will be filing BK after this, maybe before it is over. Many people will not get justice, BP execs hide in Russia, or China and live large. Same as it ever was.
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not doom for everyone. think of it as the big evolution.
ufo56the ride out of here...


I agree, I'm not afraid of going...

I just dont want it to be slow, I dont want my kids to suffer..

I am in no way religious but I totally believe there is some kind of life after death...

We are an energy and totally connected to each other and our whole universe for that matter..

Anyway that is for another topic...

Let just hope they get this thing capped and fast...

I would suggest all us moran rack their brians to the fullest extent...

They are looking and pretty much begging for suggestions..

Admiral Thad Allen has said it multiple times...
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i don't have religion either but for the past 8 1/2 years i have been totally devoted to tracking the progress of this thing. somewhere in the back of all this is God, but i don't dwell on that, it's not necessary. i've seen 3 ufo's myself, and i understand about the "alien" thing, they have been sent to retrieve the ones who evolve right after tshtf. the thing won't be capped off, tptb don't want it to be stopped..and i won't go any deeper than that, the canny have either figured it out or will soon, and the others, it doesn't matter.
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

Don't you mean "undocumented workers?"
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I really feel that this disaster happened because of a combination of cost cutting measures and corruption (aka GREED) on the part of all companies involved, govt. turning a blind eye, combined with the extreme depth and lack of experience dealing with drilling for oil there.

I don't feel it was sabatoge, but a clusterf**ck.

Karma, if you will. And we will all suffer for it.
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

Don't you mean "undocumented workers?"
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I mean fence jumper.
Fence Jumper: noun A foreigner in a country without permission.
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And does the oil have any affect on surface tempature of water? Remember, just a couple degree change in water makes the hurricanes go off the charts...like Katrina did.

I've checked it out...water's normal albedo is near zero absorbing most light...oil slicks have an interesting effect of preventing the heat sink into the lower levels of the hydrocline but over heats the very surface...how that effects the weather....haven't found that yet but I'm sure it won't be pleasent.
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Thanks Rex. Well, storms (ie hurricanes) fuel is surface temp... it'll be an interesting year to say the least.
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My idea.

Put the 100 ton box back over the hole and fill it with concrete and illegal mexicans.

Don't you mean "undocumented workers?"


I mean fence jumper.
Fence Jumper: noun A foreigner in a country without permission.
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You 14th amendment citizen.
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So not surprised this is not working. The fact that anyone believed this was in the realm of possibility is ridiculous.

Apologies if anyone linked to this earlier in the thread, I don't have time to read through all the pages today sorry. But here's a huff post short article with video of the pipe just shooting like an opened hydrant:

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What don't you poor, sick phucks understand?

THERE IS NOTHING TO CAP, DOME, ASSHAT...NOTHING!

We're talking about an unbridled Oil Volcano!

PERIOD! THE END!

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LMAO! Doom from an old dutch lady , served cold and hard
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Ok - I'll throw this out to BP/Gov't ! I'll stop the leak for 300 million cash and I never have to pay taxes again !
And I won't use explosives!

Hey, a little creative physics is all I need - out of the 300 milllion, I might walk away with 50 million. The rest is used for equipment !
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More footage was released today from the Deepwater Disaster, providing an indication of the powerful streams of oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico.

This video shows the failed attempt over the weekend to lower a 100-ton, 4-story "cofferdam" dome over the top of the main leak. As the dome is lowered onto the leak, you can see the oil gushing out on the sides, offering a better sense of the volume of oil pumping into the Gulf of Mexico:

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