**BROKEN NEWS!**BP containment "Top Hat" Delayed, set back, failed, shit the bed...wtf eva

You loose constuctionist libtard

I think we need to think positive and be hopeful.
I live on the Gulf and my heart is broken but I have not given up somehow this can be stopped.

Im the tool pusher that told you it wouldnt work the day before yesterday, SHR. How could it, the problem isnt whats coming out of the top of the BOP stack, the problem is erosion of the well around the outside of it by very high pressure natural gas. The pressures at the depth they were drilling should be around 50-75,OOO lbs/in2.
The rest is a dog and pony show for the media, who absolutely no idea whats going on. A sudden release of the entire gas deposit is what is concerning them, it could be a real catastophy. Oil is the LEAST of our worries.

Potential of this if this goes on for a long time..



[link to www.space.com]

Did Asteroid-Induced Firestorm Destroy the Dinosaurs?
By Michael Paine
Special to space.com
posted: 03:10 pm ET
18 November 1999

Dinosaurs may have met their demise in a global firestorm of methane gas triggered by an asteroid impact, a team of scientists reports in the latest issue of Geo-Marine Letters.

The methane gas was released from the Earth by the asteroid collision and ignited by lightning, says Naval Research Laboratory scientist Barton Hurdle.

Hurdle told space.com that he and several colleagues put forth the idea -- a fiery end to Earth's greatest land creatures -- before various teams of researchers in 1991 and 1992 theorized that a crater discovered in Mexico was the site of an asteroid impact responsible for the mass extinctions.

"It shook up the ocean, generated tsunamis that ruptured pockets of methane that were trapped under gas hydrates, and it also created slumping -- a sliding down of the ocean bottom -- that released (the methane) too," Hurdle said.

"This stuff came out, lightning set it afire, and it burned," Hurdle explained. "There were fantastic quantities of this stuff."

The theoretical fire would have burned near the ground and high into the atmosphere, Hurdle said, enveloping much of the planet as shock waves from the impact moved through the planet and dislodged methane around the globe.

"The atmosphere itself would have been on fire," Hurdle and his colleagues wrote in the paper.

The fire would have incinerated land creatures, he said, while decreasing oxygen supplies and increasing the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

"There was a lot of soot, and that soot has been found," Hurdle said.

The theory, also featured in this week's issue of New Scientist magazine, stems from the discovery of vast deposits of methane, a carbon-based molecule, under the sea floor that are locked in crystals of water ice, forming "methane hydrate."

Marine geologist Erwin Suess and co-workers from the Research Center for Marine Geosciences in Germany estimate the total amount of carbon locked in these deposits exceeds the amount in all of the known coal, oil and gas reservoirs. What is more, methane hydrate is very unstable and releases methane if the temperature or pressure rises slightly above that existing under the seafloor.

Interest, and skepticism

Brown University's Peter Schultz, who studies impact craters and the processes that create them, says Hurdle's idea definitely merits further study.

"The observation that there are these methane traps on the bottom of the ocean is pretty well established," Schultz told space.com. He said that while an ocean impact could certainly release this methane, he's not sure if the affect would be over a large enough area to release enough methane to cause the scenario Hurdle describes.

"My reservation is whether or not the shock wave could have released as much methane as they say," Schultz said.

And as planetary scientists John Lewis and Sidney van Den Bergh point out, there are several other dire consequences of the impact, (the site is known as the Chicxulub crater), that could explain the extinction of the dinosaurs. The methane hydrate proposal is seen by many researchers as credible, but may in fact have been a nail in the coffin rather than the exact cause.

Evidence and likelihoods

There is ample evidence of a global firestorm at the time of the Chicxulub impact. Iridium-bearing clay in the boundary layer between the Cretaceous Period (a time when dinosaurs roamed) and Tertiary Period (the subsequent geologic time frame when dinosaurs seem to have disappeared) contains soot.

The quantity and composition of the soot corresponds to the burning of at least 50 percent of the world's forests. Although Hurdle's idea that methane fires were responsible for this firestorm is plausible, there is another simpler explanation.

The Chicxulub impact would have launched millions of tons of rock into ballistic space flight. Over the following hour this debris would have re-entered the Earth's atmosphere at high speed, causing millions of brilliant "shooting stars." The radiant heat from these meteors alone would have been sufficient to ignite the trees around the world.

This idea is supported by the discovery of charcoal in tsunami deposits near the impact site. The best explanation may be that the trees were ignited by radiant heat, then swamped soon after by the waves.

The shock wave from the impact would indeed have triggered massive earthquakes in the region and indirectly triggered other earthquakes around the globe. A tsunami would have formed from the impact, which occurred in a shallow sea. The giant waves would also have been generated by the earthquakes and undersea landslides triggered by the shock wave.

"Megawaves emanating from an impact site would circuit the earth at high speeds and cause worldwide disruption in the entire ocean in a single day," Hurdle and his colleagues wrote.

Acid rain and a long, long winter

Researchers say the impact fireball and the forest fires would have created huge quantities of nitrogen oxides, which react with water vapor to form acid rain. By chance, the Chicxulub asteroid struck rocks with an unusually large proportion of calcium sulfate. This would have generated sulfur dioxide -- another source of acid rain. There are several signs of a massive dose of acid rain at the time, including sudden weathering of continental rocks.

The dust thrown up by the impact, the soot generated by the firestorms and the smog formed from the oxides of nitrogen and sulfur particles would have blocked sunlight for many months. The surface of the Earth would have plunged to freezing conditions -- typically 70 degrees Fahrenheit below normal -- and photosynthesis would not have been possible, even if plants had survived the fires and acid rain.

Global warming

After several months the dust would have settled and sunlight would have begun heating up the land. Now the greenhouse effect would have taken over due to the excess of carbon dioxide created by the fires and the melting of limestone rocks at the impact site.

Methane released from ocean sediments could have added to the greenhouse effect. It has been estimated that the surface temperatures on Earth were at least 10 degrees Fahrenheit above normal for hundreds of thousands of years after the impact.

So dinosaurs, if they were not consumed in a firestorm, would have had to live through a torturous sequence of events -- from the barbecue to the freezer, to a dip in acid and then a hothouse baking. Regardless of whether Hurdle's idea is correct, it agrees with mounting evidence that suggests how a massive asteroid impact at Chicxulub may have been the fatal blow to the dinosaurs, as well as 50 percent of all the Earth's species.

Here's the latest official projection for Friday.



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My 'conspiracy theory' . They are delaying because now they need time to put explosives into the little dog house they built. Then cover it with the 4 story apartment complex they built, that 'didn't work' . In hope that when they set off the charge, the big complex will force the blast back towards the ocean floor and collapse the leak onto itself...

We'll see.

The truth is that it's not that bad right now....yeah so we have an oil slick some dead turtles will be paraded around so the masses can cry and everyone can say...oh this iisn't too bad...and ONFG it's terrible! Flipper died waaaa!...we must have sprout mobiles!....protest big oil!...none of that means shit...it's a fuckin pagent compared to what may happen...and what to me is looking frighteningly more possible every fuckin day because too much time has passed...and believe me...these people DO KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING...and they are failing fuckin left and right...

There is ONLY ONE MISSION...KILL THIS WELL...they KNOW IT...they are afraid they can't and THAT?...is a fuckin nighmare worst case scenerio that everyone in the oil and gas industry has feared like death for a long time...

Let me put some potential out here...one rig in the same field "Thunderhorse" set a record of 150,000 barrels in ONE DAY...and that?...was controlled...if this goes full blowout which it is NOT NOW?....so it does HALF of that 75,000 BPD...that's 3.1 million gallons A DAY...that's two fuckin EXXON VALDEZS A WEEK....and that is a real potential and it's NOT EVEN THE WORST CASE....

There has never been a "Deep water blowout" even NEAR this before...everything they are trying is all new and has never been done before...I cannot impress how bad not only bad the potential for a massive oil gusher is with what they have to deal with aside from how bad that gusher will be as far pollution IF it blows out completely....it's the worst thing that can happen in the worst place it could have happened...

We should be full out war mode against this thing...it's that bad...every one of the best industry professionals should be fuckin air lifted there with unlimited resources IMO...because this is time bomb with the detonater ticking away.

If that happens, does the gas get released into the atmosphere, or does it fuse (whatever the hell its called) with the saltwater...so it wouldn't be like a huge methane bubble going up...or would it?

Worst case scenario:
The entire deposit of natural gas is suddenly released in a matter of days. If its a still day on the gulf when this happens, a pool of natural gas will form above the ocean briefly, many animals such as birds would die from flying through it. The possibility of ignition at the wrong time combined with a huge release of gas would be a spectacular sight from 100 miles inland, it could be a barbeque everyones invited to on the coastline

At those depths I believe some will be converted to hydrates as they exit the ocean floor and mix with cold water while they decompress. Decompression causes cooling, its how your fridge works

Glad to hear you are finally on board the DOOM train!

If I lived on or near the gulf coast I would have my suitcase packed, car full of gas, several gallons of water in the car, and a gas mask and maybe split at 3 AM

Here's a link to a Tropical Weather Forum that discusses the effects of the oil on the Gulf waters during a hurricane. I think it's subjective, but still has some good info.

[link to www.storm2k.org]

I believe I remember you posting agreed that any of these dome things are only going to suck up what they can suck up IF they work at all and all that wouldn't amount to dick anyway...it is a dog and pony show and feel good ooooh we are suckin up oil....BIG FUCKIN DEAL...

I don't think anyone knows how bad any outside the casing errossion is....I HOPE that the bop is still intact enough that when they shoot crap into the choke ports that it can clog the thing enough so can wail down HD mud and cement after to kill this thing and that it's not a train wreck of gas around the production casings and they CAN kill it...

This is like the earth has a brain bleed, and we need emergency surgery stat.

No, I am a nonignorant Sovereign. Liptard.... you are brainwashed with the Hegelian dialectic.

bad ju ju.

I explained in some detail what i think is happening, but here is a refresh: The well was drilled to a depth to recover oil under a gas deposit. The permit was for 30,000 and thye pushed it to 35. The pressure of the gas above the deposit of oil pushing through the channels outside the casing is relasing gas around the well, and not through the BOP. The BOP failed, meaning the oil deposit will continue to escape through it until the gas deposit above it equals the pressure at the oceans floor. Gas is escaping from around the well casing...

what if that is file video?

i mean what if that video is not really showing what is happening down there?

Well. I'm not sure there would be much point in running away from the coast, if the wort case unfolds.

I think it was Freethinker that said a couple days ago "potentially civilization ending".

I don't know how to put in a video but heres a URL for one


[link to www.youtube.com]

Thanks. That was actually a pretty cool discussion.

Gotcha covered:

So, if worst case: What is it? Who would be affected?

Some of you say THEY don't want to seal the leak. Some say it can't be sealed, because it's a volcano.

But, no matter what the reasons are why this hasn't been sealed yet, would you not at least expect the NWO turds to throw everything money can buy at it to stop it?

Let's assume it's part of THEIR doom plan, why would THEY want to put that much damage to this planet? THEY want to get rid of us, not the planet, right?

The only way this is going to end civilization is if the doomtards manage to shut down oil production in the gulf of mexico...

Methane gas and everyone

It's more like the Earth has a water cannon that fires oil and gas and it's pointed at you and earth is deaf and pissed....

I wonder if any vascular surgeons have any ideas? :) On a more serious note, any ideas are welcomed from what I hear.

The reality is, only the relief well stop this leak, they better hurry.

Last Edited by bio major on 05/13/2010 05:06 PM