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theGrandSmithWizard User ID: 959794 United States 05/14/2010 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | God’s love is unconditional and no hell is required because we are all forgiven thanks to that love? <imo> We get the powers over us that we've earned collectively. Humanity, as a whole, is self-interested, shallow, ignorant, violent and immoral; small wonder, therefore, that our leaders (secret or otherwise) reflect that. You want better leaders, become better people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 415939 United States 05/14/2010 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course his love is conditional. don't think otherwise. He didn't lay down his commandments for nothing. I know it gives you a nice cozy feeling to think that GOD loves you regardless, but the harsh reality of it is the exact opposite. If you don't play by his rules, then you won't play in his house. To think otherwise is foolish, and to try and convince people otherwise, is sinister. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 580069 United States 05/14/2010 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course his love is conditional. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415939don't think otherwise. He didn't lay down his commandments for nothing. I know it gives you a nice cozy feeling to think that GOD loves you regardless, but the harsh reality of it is the exact opposite. If you don't play by his rules, then you won't play in his house. To think otherwise is foolish, and to try and convince people otherwise, is sinister. I don't like rules, rules are meant to be broken. Besides, god don't make the rules |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 966882 United States 05/14/2010 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Agapé (Love) is unconditional. It's there regardless of any circumstances, beliefs, actions etc. But I think we're programmed to interpret love as "approval". Approval is different, and is very conditional. God loves even the bigshots bent on destroying and enslaving the population. But like us, He does not approve of their behavior, and they have some serious lessons to undergo and personal changes to face. If we love our enemies, that's not to say we condone their actions, any more than loving our troubled children equals approval of their bad choices. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 966882 United States 05/14/2010 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no hell then? Quoting: Greatest I amRegards DL Not the traditional endless torture-by-fire place, no. Per scripture, God *is* a consming fire, and His word is *like* fire. His judgment by fire for us is not literal fire. But it acts like it, burning away our impurities and leaving us in "ashes" and sackcloth (the symbols of humility). |
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Butt Ugly Toad User ID: 971042 Israel 05/15/2010 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good points...if God's and Jesus's love is unconditional, we wouldn't be punished by eternal torture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 964180Every Bible-thumping Christian's head just exploded. Look at it this way: There is no Hell in Heaven, Hell is here on Earth and any other "Earth" universe-wide. You fuck up and don't repent, with reincarnation taken into account, God just sends you back to Hell and maybe as a cock roach next time, instead of a humanoid or maybe a beautiful butterfly. So what do you want for eternity? To be a female cock roach, always being fucked by the boys and never getting help with the kids, or to be given the opportunity to experience True Love? Cock roaches do not experience True Love but We do. Ribbit "To pee or not to pee, that is the question!" - Old Toad Proverb “Unbeknownst to most, Kindness is not a STD, so pass it on!” – Old Toad Proverb Old Toad Proverbs: Thread: Old Toad Proverbs |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 904802 United States 05/19/2010 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is God’s Love conditional or unconditional? Quoting: Greatest I amRegards DL John 3:16 For God so love the world that He gave His only Begotten Son, that whosoever should believe in Him should not perish, but have eternal life. John 1:$ In Him was life, and that life was the light of men. God's love for us is immense. He died so that we might live. In Him is life, without Him is death. The people who chose to believe in the Son will receive eternal life. Those that do not chose Him will die/ perish. God loves even those who will be destroyed. His love doesn't waver. Our love for Him is the real question/test. And for the record, I do not believe in a place of eternal torment. That is not taught in the Bible, but has been distorted by half-truths for a very long time. |
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