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The BP Deep water horizon, Macondo Well Blowout. and what we are facing in the Gulf. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 946464  United States05/14/2010 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Work OP !!! Quoting: Cyndexia You really covered all the bases..... Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here. I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time. Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind. . |
SHR (OP)Forum Administrator  05/14/2010 11:53 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, man, that was a lot of typing! Quoting: Evil TwinThe one thing I question is if it is even possible to attach another B.O.P. on top of the existing one. As I understand it, we only have 5 ROV subs capable of operating down there, and I question if that is enough to wrestle a new BOP into place on top of a wide open gusher. LoL...well we both know I can blab off some mega posts...lol...don't know about 5 ROVs but I would not be surpised at that number at all...5,000 feet can crush a Los Angels class sub...actually think it's pretty good they got as many as they did out there as fast as they did... I cannot see that put a new stack on having much chance either...no way can they just "float over" with one...it would be hitting a pine cone with a fire hose...if they even tried that I would imagine some sort of gantry system...and a real sturdy one...I just don't see it being anything but waaaay difficult...but they do have a new one out there....I'm sure they are HOPING they don't have to try that one. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 05/14/2010 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The important question is how much oil is under the leak. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 938245That, my friend, is public information. It is a shitload and a half, one of the biggest finds ever. More methane than oil in that reserve, which is not really good news. Do you have the link? How much does BP or did BP project was in there when they made the discovery? Sorry...didn't put the link in my reply..I will edit it in, but here ya go...pg 16 [link to www.gomr.mms.gov] ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States05/14/2010 11:56 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Work OP !!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946464You really covered all the bases..... Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here. I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time. Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind. . Your Faith.... Was in GLP....  Buh Bye. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800  The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 822497 United States05/14/2010 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well done, SHR. I'm still curious as to what caused this blowout, but that is an answer I'm relatively certain that I'll never receive. It seems all we can do is take the info we are given and come to our own conclusions. You have certainly helped in this regard. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 970874 United States05/14/2010 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, man, that was a lot of typing! Quoting: SHRThe one thing I question is if it is even possible to attach another B.O.P. on top of the existing one. As I understand it, we only have 5 ROV subs capable of operating down there, and I question if that is enough to wrestle a new BOP into place on top of a wide open gusher. LoL...well we both know I can blab off some mega posts...lol...don't know about 5 ROVs but I would not be surpised at that number at all...5,000 feet can crush a Los Angels class sub...actually think it's pretty good they got as many as they did out there as fast as they did... I cannot see that put a new stack on having much chance either...no way can they just "float over" with one...it would be hitting a pine cone with a fire hose...if they even tried that I would imagine some sort of gantry system...and a real sturdy one...I just don't see it being anything but waaaay difficult...but they do have a new one out there....I'm sure they are HOPING they don't have to try that one. SHR, at least your trying to think. You just need to realize all of this has been thought of. I knew the latest scheme would fail. They need to get busy now drilling a parallel well and get this thing stopped.I still think theyre allowing the pressure to vent intentionally, they may have a long wait. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 970802  Australia05/14/2010 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Cyndexia User ID: 735366  Puerto Rico05/14/2010 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Work OP !!! Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanYou really covered all the bases..... Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here. I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time. Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind. . Your Faith.... Was in GLP.... Buh Bye.   "Sometimes the object of the Journey may not be the end, but the Journey itself" :2013: Email: [email protected] :) |
| Evil Twin 05/14/2010 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Work OP !!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 946464You really covered all the bases..... Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here. I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time. Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind. . I'm missing what it is that you're pissed about... |
| Driller User ID: 970874 United States05/14/2010 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 05/15/2010 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, can you answer this. Why has the flow not froze itslf out? I have worked with these hydrates hundreds of times (never underwater), they can only form when there is a restriction to the flow, and unless you are doing anything to warm up the flow or pump methanol they always freeze off? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 971027I don't really know...maybe there is not enough water in the pipes, or maybe to much volume flowing through?....I know for a fact they are forming plenty outside the pipes when they are out in the free water. ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States05/15/2010 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Work OP !!! Quoting: Evil TwinYou really covered all the bases..... Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here. I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time. Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind.. I'm missing what it is that you're pissed about... You missed the same thing I did. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Driller User ID: 970874 United States05/15/2010 12:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they cant do much with the drill string in the hole. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 970802that is why the rams won't work- too much lateral pressure. hope the relief well works 1st time or it could go on literally for years. Theyre not going to allow the drilling of a relief well. The pressure they encountered was more than expected. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 862727 United States05/15/2010 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AWESOME READ SHR! THANK YOU! That was a lot of work and makes the nightmare much clearer. I have had a REAL BAD feeling about this for the past 2 weeks. Some of the financial/Euro doom along with the supposed slowing of the oil flow due to an increase in methane gas had taken the doom edge off this clusterf*ck. Now after reading your analysis I have that sick/dead feeling in the pit of my stomach again. Like finding out that you are the passenger on a runaway train. ELE? I think it's possible. What happens if one or two more additional GOM rigs blowout? My main question is what happens in the worse case scenario? In that case IMO the U.S. is toast, but will there be anywhere in the world that will be less affected, at least for a while? Thanks again SHR and please keep us posted with any updates from your contacts.  |
| Machete User ID: 740955 United States05/15/2010 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Evil Twin 05/15/2010 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 947925 United States05/15/2010 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its not a good time to be pointing fingers on the blame game right now let the experts do there job this isnt no small task plus its a dire one.There will be plenty of time to point fingers when and if this thing gets sealed |
| Cyndexia User ID: 735366 Puerto Rico05/15/2010 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice Work OP !!! Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanYou really covered all the bases..... Oh my God, now I really wanna puke. I'm fucking outta here. I have no faith in GLP and am sorry I wasted my time. Ban me now before I really say what's on my mind.. I'm missing what it is that you're pissed about... You missed the same thing I did. Just One of My Haters.... "Sometimes the object of the Journey may not be the end, but the Journey itself" :2013: Email: [email protected] :) |
| lurker User ID: 971034  France05/15/2010 12:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanx SHR. Your post is a very important synopsis of the situation. A great reference for all of us who are searching for answers. And I know the writing and research took a lot of time and effort. Thank you so much. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 970802 Australia05/15/2010 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 05/15/2010 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Very good synopsis. Quoting: FreethinkerThanks for that man...and thanks for also helping people to understand around here... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| Driller User ID: 970874 United States05/15/2010 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't really know Quoting: SHRTe formation of methane hydrate will not occur IN the blown out well because the material escaping is very hot, @ 400F.However, as the methane escapes into the ocean it rapidly decompresses, which causes a rapid cooling, and in the presence of cold sea water hydrates will form. |
| ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States05/15/2010 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just One of My Haters.... Quoting: CyndexiaDid you steal one of mine? ...didn't think there were any left. ;) I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 970802 Australia05/15/2010 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are drilling 2 relief wells now: [link to www.cbc.ca] this is the only real solution, all this other stuff is just PR spin. |
| Evil Twin 05/15/2010 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, can you answer this. Why has the flow not froze itslf out? I have worked with these hydrates hundreds of times (never underwater), they can only form when there is a restriction to the flow, and unless you are doing anything to warm up the flow or pump methanol they always freeze off? Quoting: SHRI don't really know...maybe there is not enough water in the pipes, or maybe to much volume flowing through?....I know for a fact they are forming plenty outside the pipes when they are out in the free water. I'm guessing too much pressure and friction inside the casing, which means heat. |
| CuriousGeorgette User ID: 941761 United States05/15/2010 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 05/15/2010 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG... Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanHey, uh, Admin-Guy (Op)? Think you might PIN THIS? *Edit* Lol...Ok I pinned it....let the oil soaked raggage begin! ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| Doom makes me horny User ID: 706989 United States05/15/2010 12:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SHR (OP) Forum Administrator 05/15/2010 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm missing what it is that you're pissed about... Quoting: CyndexiaYou missed the same thing I did. Just One of My Haters.... Maybe he's got a bent drill pipe...;) ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
| Cyndexia User ID: 735366 Puerto Rico05/15/2010 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OMG... Quoting: SHRHey, uh, Admin-Guy (Op)? Think you might PIN THIS? *Edit* Lol...Ok I pinned it....let the oil soaked raggage begin! Yes 5 Stars.....  "Sometimes the object of the Journey may not be the end, but the Journey itself" :2013: Email: [email protected] :) |
