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Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona

 
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The nation's largest union organization and one of its biggest civil rights groups have written a stern letter to Secretary Janet Napolitano demanding that the Department of Homeland Security cut programmatic ties with law enforcement officials in Arizona or be complicit in the state's controversial immigration law.

On Friday, the union conglomerate AFL-CIO and the civil rights coalition, The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, became the latest institutions to urge for the isolation or boycott of Arizona when they requested that Homeland Security terminate its training of local law enforcement officials in the state.

"We write to express our deep concern with the Department of Homeland Security's continued cooperation with state and local law enforcement in Arizona pursuant to Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act ('the 287(g) program') in the aftermath of Arizona's passage of Senate Bill 1070, and we ask that you immediately rescind all 287(g) program agreements in Arizona," the letter reads.

The message continues:

"We are grateful that President Obama has spoken out to correctly call the Arizona law 'misguided.' However, more than words are required from the federal government at this time. As we explain below, the enforcement of Arizona's law fundamentally depends on the use of federal government resources for the implementation of its racial profiling regime. Unless DHS terminates all 287(g) program agreements in Arizona, the federal government will be complicit in the racial profiling that lies at the heart of the Arizona law. Such a result would place the DHS at odds with this Administration's stated views on SBI070, and at odds with basic American values of tolerance and non-discrimination."

The letter is by far the most serious effort to date to make Arizona's new immigration law untenable for the state. Other groups have urged economic and travel boycotts as a way to target the state government's tourism revenues. Should DHS adopt the AFL-CIO's suggestion (and it's a big question whether the Department will) it would deny the state the type of law enforcement expertise that the immigration law was designed to beef up in the first place.

The legislation passed by Arizona state government would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime. It would also give law enforcement officials fairly broad powers to detain those suspected of being in the country illegally.

"A review of DHS's 287(g) program agreements in Arizona makes clear that once SB1070 becomes effective, DHS will be complicit in the enforcement of Arizona's misguided law," reads the letter, signed by AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and Wade Henderson, President and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. "We urgently request that you exercise your authority to immediately rescind all 287(g) program agreements in Arizona and, in this manner, avoid making the federal government complicit in the enforcement of Arizona's misguided law."

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona
So in other words they aren't cutting ties a bunch of groups just want them to.

Your title should reflect that it hasn't happened yet.

EDIT: But I do think the Federal Government needs to just shut up and let the states exercise their rights.

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So basically - don't enforce the laws, Arizona. Give the criminals the keys to the city and shut up.
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Arizona is now called Misguided !!!!

Obama has now idea what it is like to live in boarder states that have to deal with Illegals....
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Hmm so either Arizona is about to be cast out, our there will be a proposal real soon to drop the immigration requirements......
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!
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I would think that the people that want AZ to succeed from the Union would be pleased.
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Arizona should be overjoyed if Homeland Security (AKA Gestapo) would leave them alone
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I would think that the people that want AZ to succeed from the Union would be pleased.
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Good Point AC
I found this poster on another site and I thought I would share:

Good. As an Arizona resident, I am glad that this state has thrown Homeland Security out. What a blessing to have the feds take their hands off of our law enforcement officials.

The next thing that Arizona needs to do is to boot all of the federal government out of here, recall our National Guard troops back to our state, and claim our sovereignty as a separate country.

This is exactly what our Founding Fathers said we should do if the federal government runs amuck, only they said each COUNTY should claim their sovereignty and secede from what is known as the United States of America. If Arizona were to do this, I am sure we would be inundated with other states' citizens in a mass move to Arizona.
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Wow, what a good idea as if Arizona needs them anyway. FU!
Bunch of political correct anal retentive brown nosers. hunter
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"Good Point AC"

Sorry for the typo. Glad you knew what the hell I was saying though. LOL
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Just think about the taxes that would stay in your state instead of in the Fed's pocket...
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The problem with that person's premise is that National Guard is a Federal program.
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Tell em to pack their bags and take the IRS, ATF, CIA with em..
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!
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What does Texas have to do with this?
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!


What does Texas have to do with this?
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Sorry I just meant that Texas has talked about Seceding from the US and maybe it is time that Arizona takes that stand as well. Perhaps all the boarder states should start action to Start a Secession Movement.!!!!!
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!
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What does Texas have to do with this?
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Sorry I just meant that Texas has talked about Seceding from the US and maybe it is time that Arizona takes that stand as well. Perhaps all the boarder states should start action to Start a Secession Movement.!!!!!
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I understand now. Thanks for explaining. hf
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Tell em to pack their bags and take the IRS, ATF, CIA with em..
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Hell Yeah.
Of the people, by the people, for the people has become, of the feds, by the feds, for the feds.

We the people need to remain united against this bureaucratic BS being slung against the states.

We empower them, not the other way around.
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!


What does Texas have to do with this?



Sorry I just meant that Texas has talked about Seceding from the US and maybe it is time that Arizona takes that stand as well. Perhaps all the boarder states should start action to Start a Secession Movement.!!!!!
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Tell em to pack their bags and take the IRS, ATF, CIA with em..

Hell Yeah.
Of the people, by the people, for the people has become, of the feds, by the feds, for the feds.

We the people need to remain united against this bureaucratic BS being slung against the states.

We empower them, not the other way around.
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Hey BB hf

Agreed .... Think about keeping the taxes in your own state.
Perhaps that is the answer to this economic depression that we are in....

Just sayin

hmm
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A union thug and a 'guam-tipping-over' mentality black guy, threaten AZ with removal of DHS?

There is a GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here you go governors, here is your game plan.
Pass the 1070 law, get rid of DHS.
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!



What does Texas have to do with this?



Sorry I just meant that Texas has talked about Seceding from the US and maybe it is time that Arizona takes that stand as well. Perhaps all the boarder states should start action to Start a Secession Movement.!!!!!


I understand now. Thanks for explaining. hf
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No Prob....hf
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I would think that the people that want AZ to succeed from the Union would be pleased.



Good Point AC
I found this poster on another site and I thought I would share:

Good. As an Arizona resident, I am glad that this state has thrown Homeland Security out. What a blessing to have the feds take their hands off of our law enforcement officials.

The next thing that Arizona needs to do is to boot all of the federal government out of here, recall our National Guard troops back to our state, and claim our sovereignty as a separate country.

This is exactly what our Founding Fathers said we should do if the federal government runs amuck, only they said each COUNTY should claim their sovereignty and secede from what is known as the United States of America. If Arizona were to do this, I am sure we would be inundated with other states' citizens in a mass move to Arizona.
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clappaYeah kick the feds out and reclaim federal land back to the state of Arizona.
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I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!


What does Texas have to do with this?



Sorry I just meant that Texas has talked about Seceding from the US and maybe it is time that Arizona takes that stand as well. Perhaps all the boarder states should start action to Start a Secession Movement.!!!!!

The entire country is imploding.
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We are all watching History in the making. I think Obama's change will make us all change....
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Re: Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona
A union thug and a 'guam-tipping-over' mentality black guy, threaten AZ with removal of DHS?

There is a GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here you go governors, here is your game plan.
Pass the 1070 law, get rid of DHS.
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clappa
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Hey BB hf

Agreed .... Think about keeping the taxes in your own state.
Perhaps that is the answer to this economic depression that we are in....

Just sayin

hmm
 Quoting: Cyndexia

Definitely, we pay state taxes, & federal taxes, a portion of the federal taxes comes back to the state.
Why not ditch the fed taxes all together, and raise the state taxes to compensate, it would most likely be a smaller than the combined tax.

Unfortunately Nebraska seems to put on their kneepads when the feds have something to offer and so many here just swallow the whole load.

Arizona might just be a new home for me.


BTW: It's good to see you back in full force, people like you are what will make this country into what it used to be.

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Hey BB hf

Agreed .... Think about keeping the taxes in your own state.
Perhaps that is the answer to this economic depression that we are in....

Just sayin

hmm

Definitely, we pay state taxes, & federal taxes, a portion of the federal taxes comes back to the state.
Why not ditch the fed taxes all together, and raise the state taxes to compensate, it would most likely be a smaller than the combined tax.

Unfortunately Nebraska seems to put on their kneepads when the feds have something to offer and so many here just swallow the whole load.

Arizona might just be a new home for me.


BTW: It's good to see you back in full force, people like you are what will make this country into what it used to be.

:peacefinge:
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chuckle

Arizona would be nice and warm for you....


Thanks BB Things are looking up hf
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can you believe the arrogance of these unions? Actually demanding the federal government abandon the state of Arizona? Who do they think they are and they make threats on top of their demands.

I think the federal government is going to have a look at dropping all union membership
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can you believe the arrogance of these unions? Actually demanding the federal government abandon the state of Arizona? Who do they think they are and they make threats on top of their demands.

I think the federal government is going to have a look at dropping all union membership
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But who will go first????
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can you believe the arrogance of these unions? Actually demanding the federal government abandon the state of Arizona? Who do they think they are and they make threats on top of their demands.

I think the federal government is going to have a look at dropping all union membership
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It doesn't make sense to me. Why would union organizations back illegal immigration? It seems counter productive to their cause IMO.
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