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Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona

 
Cyndexia (OP)

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So basically - don't enforce the laws, Arizona. Give the criminals the keys to the city and shut up.
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Well said...
Basically that's it in a nut shell.
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The left sure does have their panties in a wad over this complete non-issue. Media, Unions and Feds: We're not buying it! You've been harping on it's supposed racism and unconstitutionality for weeks and still more than 60% of the American population supports the bill.
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Sadly this is all about the DIVIDE and CONQUER
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The left sure does have their panties in a wad over this complete non-issue. Media, Unions and Feds: We're not buying it! You've been harping on it's supposed racism and unconstitutionality for weeks and still more than 60% of the American population supports the bill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969904


Exactly....
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This is confusing. Two big organizations are asking the former governor of Arizona, the now DHS Secretary, to re-govern Arizona?

It might be out of her power to boycott an entire state which is a part of the country. To do that would be breaking an oath or a pledge somewhere.

From Janet Napolitano herself: [link to www.dhs.gov]

"When it comes to immigration, I took an oath as Secretary of Homeland Security to secure the nation by enforcing the law and managing legal flows across the border. Let me be clear: to do this job as effectively as possible, DHS needs immigration reform."

So this is part of immigration reform. I'm telling GLP, that Arizona is a testing bed for this new system, because Secretary Napolitano knows the place so well. She might not listen to these two big organizations.
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Sadly this is all about the DIVIDE and CONQUER
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

How true, and very sad.
The old "us vs them" mentality.
Sad that so many buy into this BS.
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Re: Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona
This is confusing. Two big organizations are asking the former governor of Arizona, the now DHS Secretary, to re-govern Arizona?

It might be out of her power to boycott an entire state which is a part of the country. To do that would be breaking an oath or a pledge somewhere.

From Janet Napolitano herself: [link to www.dhs.gov]

"When it comes to immigration, I took an oath as Secretary of Homeland Security to secure the nation by enforcing the law and managing legal flows across the border. Let me be clear: to do this job as effectively as possible, DHS needs immigration reform."

So this is part of immigration reform. I'm telling GLP, that Arizona is a testing bed for this new system, because Secretary Napolitano knows the place so well. She might not listen to these two big organizations.
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AC I see your point and Thank you for posting.

Or will she is the question? I think Napolitano is weak. She is just another puppet in the administration. She seems to just be visual for PR sake.

JMO....hf
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Sadly this is all about the DIVIDE and CONQUER
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It is sad..... We are boarder States with a Huge problem. The asses in Washington have no idea what we are up against.
People in California are loosing jobs to people who should not be here. They are illegal. Get LEGAL !!!! Become American....

We offer that to all countries...
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why are they so against Arizona,i thought they were trying to uphold the law,aren't illegals illegal,does the rest of America want all the illegal immigrants to become legal,if they do,they and the generations to come(if we've got the time left)are going to have a lot of paying and trouble ahead,it's just not sustainable,but i think the government knows that,their just itching for the unrest.
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why are they so against Arizona,i thought they were trying to uphold the law,aren't illegals illegal,does the rest of America want all the illegal immigrants to become legal,if they do,they and the generations to come(if we've got the time left)are going to have a lot of paying and trouble ahead,it's just not sustainable,but i think the government knows that,their just itching for the unrest.
 Quoting: pauldamo 967962



The Government as a whole really do not want States to think or run on there own. This administration wants to have Big Government run all states and the personal lives of each and every individual that lives in them.
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illegal immigrants=cheap labor/slavery...

it is time for it to end, please and thank you.


make it a felony to hire an illegal..


raise the min wage nationwide to 12+ an hour so families can spend more "time" together..


teach the "illegals" how to plant and tend to gardens/food in thier home lands, wherever that may be..

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona
illegal immigrants=cheap labor/slavery...

it is time for it to end, please and thank you.


make it a felony to hire an illegal..


raise the min wage nationwide to 12+ an hour so families can spend more "time" together..


teach the "illegals" how to plant and tend to gardens/food in thier home lands, wherever that may be..
 Quoting: Shaun1111


+1
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Stop the police and government
dead in their tracks when they
bother or try to intimidate you.

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Re: Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona
I can See Texas Roll out with A Big HELL NO !!!!!!


What does Texas have to do with this?



Sorry I just meant that Texas has talked about Seceding from the US and maybe it is time that Arizona takes that stand as well. Perhaps all the boarder states should start action to Start a Secession Movement.!!!!!

The entire country is imploding.


We are all watching History in the making. I think Obama's change will make us all change....
 Quoting: Cyndexia


I agree. I think will states secede from the union. Federal Government has become too big, bloated, and corrupt.
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WARNING!
Any politician supported by any union should be an automatic no vote in November.

This shit with Unions has been going on for years, and they are an open wound in the heart of the Country.

Many benefit from union contracts, and the pay scales, but damn people you know the problems they have brought, where the fuck are your principles.

AZ needs to tell Homeland security, and their bureacratic largesse to get the fuck out of their State. More threats to a State using federal money, same old shit.

States have to draw the line, that is the problem.
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can you believe the arrogance of these unions? Actually demanding the federal government abandon the state of Arizona? Who do they think they are and they make threats on top of their demands.

I think the federal government is going to have a look at dropping all union membership


It doesn't make sense to me. Why would union organizations back illegal immigration? It seems counter productive to their cause IMO.
 Quoting: Phantasmagoria


It's not the union rank and file. It's the union leaders.

They want the dues from the new members.

That, and they're commies.
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May they be free from the stranglehold!!
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Long live the Great State of Arizona!
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Re: Department of Homeland Security Purpose to Cut Programmatic Ties with Law Enforcement in Arizona !!!!!! Secede Arizona
can you believe the arrogance of these unions? Actually demanding the federal government abandon the state of Arizona? Who do they think they are and they make threats on top of their demands.

I think the federal government is going to have a look at dropping all union membership


It doesn't make sense to me. Why would union organizations back illegal immigration? It seems counter productive to their cause IMO.


It's not the union rank and file. It's the union leaders.

They want the dues from the new members.

That, and they're commies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 972165

Yes it is, and the union members know the problems, but the institutionalized attitude has them locked in. People have to break free, or it will all be lost.

I would say the union benefits with "contracting out" by unionized companies when convienent, more than likely contractors using illegals with a wink and nod, denying legal Americans jobs.

There is a reason, no unbiased media, they don't exist anymore to find out, so who will investigate?
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[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

The nation's largest union organization and one of its biggest civil rights groups have written a stern letter to Secretary Janet Napolitano demanding that the Department of Homeland Security cut programmatic ties with law enforcement officials in Arizona or be complicit in the state's controversial immigration law.

On Friday, the union conglomerate AFL-CIO and the civil rights coalition, The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, became the latest institutions to urge for the isolation or boycott of Arizona when they requested that Homeland Security terminate its training of local law enforcement officials in the state.

"We write to express our deep concern with the Department of Homeland Security's continued cooperation with state and local law enforcement in Arizona pursuant to Section 287(g) of the Immigration and Nationality Act ('the 287(g) program') in the aftermath of Arizona's passage of Senate Bill 1070, and we ask that you immediately rescind all 287(g) program agreements in Arizona," the letter reads.

The message continues:

"We are grateful that President Obama has spoken out to correctly call the Arizona law 'misguided.' However, more than words are required from the federal government at this time. As we explain below, the enforcement of Arizona's law fundamentally depends on the use of federal government resources for the implementation of its racial profiling regime. Unless DHS terminates all 287(g) program agreements in Arizona, the federal government will be complicit in the racial profiling that lies at the heart of the Arizona law. Such a result would place the DHS at odds with this Administration's stated views on SBI070, and at odds with basic American values of tolerance and non-discrimination."

The letter is by far the most serious effort to date to make Arizona's new immigration law untenable for the state. Other groups have urged economic and travel boycotts as a way to target the state government's tourism revenues. Should DHS adopt the AFL-CIO's suggestion (and it's a big question whether the Department will) it would deny the state the type of law enforcement expertise that the immigration law was designed to beef up in the first place.

The legislation passed by Arizona state government would make the failure to carry immigration documents a crime. It would also give law enforcement officials fairly broad powers to detain those suspected of being in the country illegally.

"A review of DHS's 287(g) program agreements in Arizona makes clear that once SB1070 becomes effective, DHS will be complicit in the enforcement of Arizona's misguided law," reads the letter, signed by AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka and Wade Henderson, President and CEO of The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. "We urgently request that you exercise your authority to immediately rescind all 287(g) program agreements in Arizona and, in this manner, avoid making the federal government complicit in the enforcement of Arizona's misguided law."
 Quoting: Cyndexia

KISS MA ASS!!!!... that is what Arizona should be saying...

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