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BP is desperate and open to suggestions from the public! Now is your chance to help with this catastrophe.

Click on the link and look on the right side for the SUGGESTIONS LINK.

[link to www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com]
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I bet my giant wine cork idea wins! 5a
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Send your suggestions!
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I bet my giant wine cork idea wins! 5a
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They already have that idea - if your cork is made out of garbage! crazy
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they are probably getting inundated with 'suggestions' and it's an easy way to handle all the calls, just refer them to the website.
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they are probably getting inundated with 'suggestions' and it's an easy way to handle all the calls, just refer them to the website.
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Actually they have both a call option and an online form. See below.



Suggestions
What is being done with submitted suggestions?

Throughout the ongoing response efforts thousands of people across the globe have offered their ideas for stopping the flow of oil into the Gulf, containing or recovering it, or cleaning it up.

BP has established a process to receive and review submitted suggestions, on how to stop the flow of oil or contain the spill emanating from the Mississippi Canyon 252 well. Proposals are reviewed for their technical feasibility and proof of application.

More than 4,800 ideas have been proposed to date. Given this quantity of technical proposals suggested by industry professionals and the public, it may take some time to technically review each one.

All proposals submitted through the process defined below will be reviewed.
Failure to follow the process below will likely delay proposed solutions from being reviewed.

If you want to offer suggestions by phone:
Please call 281.366.5511. After each call, the caller will be sent a simple form to provide details. When the caller completes and submits this form, the proposal is sent to BP technical personnel for review.

If you want to offer suggestions online:
A suggestion submission form is available at: [link to www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com] Follow instructions on the form.

For most timely review, please use this process to submit your suggestion.

What happens with your proposal?

* All proposals are reviewed for technical feasibility and application. Given the volume of proposals, this may take some time. A reply will be sent via email or fax to each caller informing them of the technical review outcome.
* Feasible solutions will be forwarded for additional consideration. Callers whose ideas are considered feasible will be advised by email that we will contact them if and when their support is needed.

Unified Command thanks each submitter for their interest and willingness to share their ideas.
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I bet my giant wine cork idea wins! 5a


They already have that idea - if your cork is made out of garbage! crazy
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Fine. then lasers! Weld it shut with lasers!
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BP is desperate and open to suggestions from the public! Now is your chance to help with this catastrophe.

Click on the link and look on the right side for the SUGGESTIONS LINK.

[link to www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com]
 Quoting: ApostleCitizen

this will work 1mile by 1mile ballon like a parachute four suds take it down close in on oil flow tube on top pipe to ship after ship after ship it will work i did it in the bath last night oil fills the chute then out the top.pass it on i want paid.
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I suggest they tell the truth and evacuate the Gulf Coast

Methane: The Great Dying
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What caused the worst mass extinction in Earth's history 251 million years ago? This event is one of the most catastrophic in life's history: the P/T extinction.
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The painting titled "K/T Hit" by artist Donald E. Davis. This impact occured 65 million years ago, ending the reign of the dinosaurs, and is not to be confused with the P/T event 250 million years ago.
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A Northwestern University chemical engineer believes the culprit may be an enormous explosion of methane (natural gas) erupting from the ocean depths. This explanation is closer to the inverse of an external impact, like an asteroid, and more like a disgorging of trapped energy that erupts from deep below the oceans. Such a global catastrophe has a more local precedent, as a similar eruption happened in Africa at Lake Nyos in 1986, killing 1700 people and rippling as far away as 25 kilometers.
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Self-sustained soda fountain (21 m height), Lake Nyos, Cameroon, Africa, is part of a project to degas gradually soda lakes.
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In an article published in the September issue of Geology, Gregory Ryskin, associate professor of chemical engineering at Northwestern, suggests that huge combustible clouds produced by methane gas trapped in stagnant bodies of water and suddenly released could have killed off the majority of marine life and land animals and plants at the end of the Permian era -- long before dinosaurs lived and died.

The mechanism also might explain other extinctions and climate perturbations (ice ages) and even the Biblical flood, as well as be the cause of future catastrophes.

Ryskin calculated that some 10,000 gigatons of dissolved methane could have accumulated in water near the ocean floor under high pressure. If released quickly, perhaps triggered by an earthquake, the resulting cloud of methane would have an explosive force about 10,000 times greater than the world's entire stockpile of nuclear weapons. The huge conflagrations plus flooding and overturned oceans would cause the extinctions. (Approximately 95 percent of marine species and 70 percent of land species were lost.)

"That amount of energy is absolutely staggering," said Ryskin. "As soon as one accepts this mechanism, it becomes clear that if it happened once it could happen again. I have little doubt there will be another methane-driven eruption -- though not on the same scale as 251 million years ago -- unless humans intervene."
What the world looked like 250 million years ago. Plate tectonics pushed the continents together to form the super-continent Pangea and the super-ocean Panthalassa. Weather patterns and ocean currents shifted, many coastlines and their shallow marine ecosystems vanished, sea levels dropped. Credit: Chris Scotese. [more]



There is a recent precedent for the kind of explosive eruptions described by Ryskin: a lake in Cameroon, Africa--Lake Nyos--went through just such a rapid change in 1986. Lake Nyos is a water-filled throat of an old volcano and it is deep and funnel-shaped. Although no longer erupting, there is still gas being released by the old plumbing system under the lake. "The mechanism of the explosive release," continues Ryskin, "is the same as in the Lake Nyos disaster of 1986, i.e., a water-column eruption caused by the interplay of buoyancy forces and exsolution of dissolved gas. The eruption brings to the surface deep anoxic waters that cause extinctions in the marine realm."

In 1986, the Lake Nyos explosion killed more than 1700 people and livestock up to 25 km away.

Carbon dioxide gas was released directly into the deepest waters of the lake, where it could remain in solution (the way that carbon dioxide stays in solution in an unopened carbonated soda). In this situation the lake could build up a large amount of carbon dioxide dissolved in the deeper water. This was a stable situation. The carbon-dioxide charged water was slightly denser than the normal water in the upper levels of the lake, and the weight of the overlying water kept the carbon dioxide in solution in the deeper parts of the lake.

But that stable situation changed rapidly: somehow some of that carbon dioxide-rich water was displaced upward into shallower depths to the point where the overlying water pressure was lower and carbon dioxide bubbles could start to form (like when you lower the pressure on a soda by opening the bottle and suddenly bubbles start to form). At Lake Nyos, once these bubbles started to form they wanted to rise to the top, this brought up more carbon dioxide-rich water which then also started to develop bubbles, and pretty soon there was a big rush of carbon dioxide bubbles to the surface. Once all this carbon dioxide reached the surface, it splashed some lake water out of the lake, like a big bubble bursting.

As deep water becomes gas-charged, a sudden release is possible: the resulting dense bubble then hugs the ground and drifts until in the case of methane, a spark triggers the kind of huge explosions that might have global and not just local effects--all from the depths of a soda lake like Lake Nyos.

Ryskin speculates on what happened next, when "terrestrial extinctions are caused by explosions and conflagrations that follow the massive release of methane (the air-methane mixture is explosive at methane concentrations between 5% and 15%) and by the eruption-triggered floods. This scenario accounts well for the available data, and may be relevant to other phenomena."

Studying biological catastrophes like the P/T extinction can help astrobiologists understand the close connection between life, geology, chemistry - and how such events may disrupt this sometimes delicate relationship.
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Orly? so uh... is this were i say i told you so now? or now? to all them SoB's saying that BP's technicians knew more than me and they have the miracle cure and my views on things were worthless.

actually its kinda cool that they are taking suggestions now. Im an inventor by nature and in my spare time ive sketched up a dozen or so different devices to stop this. Now if i can just find time to scan them and submit them
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its official. we have some serious METHANE DOOM! alone weirdo tiemunch
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My thought is they are hoping to get a general consensus of the public suggesting nukes.

If they get enough buy-in they can more easily justify the destruction caused by the nuclear option.

What we need is for someone who understands all this to inform the public which would be more catastrophic allowing the leak to reach equilibrium or nuking it. Anyone?

And is there any guarantee that a nuke would stop it rather that causing additional leaks?
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Orly? so uh... is this were i say i told you so now? or now? to all them SoB's saying that BP's technicians knew more than me and they have the miracle cure and my views on things were worthless.

actually its kinda cool that they are taking suggestions now. Im an inventor by nature and in my spare time ive sketched up a dozen or so different devices to stop this. Now if i can just find time to scan them and submit them
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If you are serious...MAKE THE TIME TO SUBMIT THEM!!!!

If you submit the solution and they do nothing then at least your hands are clean, but if you have the solution and do nothing the world dies a slow painful death and you become equally responsible by doing/saying nothing.
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My thought is they are hoping to get a general consensus of the public suggesting nukes.

If they get enough buy-in they can more easily justify the destruction caused by the nuclear option.

What we need is for someone who understands all this to inform the public which would be more catastrophic allowing the leak to reach equilibrium or nuking it. Anyone?

And is there any guarantee that a nuke would stop it rather that causing additional leaks?
 Quoting: ApostleCitizen



A nuke is the most dangerous option and has to be prevented at all costs. It could cause an earthquake and the breaking of the oil volcano.
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Orly? so uh... is this were i say i told you so now? or now? to all them SoB's saying that BP's technicians knew more than me and they have the miracle cure and my views on things were worthless.

actually its kinda cool that they are taking suggestions now. Im an inventor by nature and in my spare time ive sketched up a dozen or so different devices to stop this. Now if i can just find time to scan them and submit them


If you are serious...MAKE THE TIME TO SUBMIT THEM!!!!

If you submit the solution and they do nothing then at least your hands are clean, but if you have the solution and do nothing the world dies a slow painful death and you become equally responsible by doing/saying nothing.
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Agreed. And who knows, there is a chance they consider the suggestions.
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why don't they let it clog up from the ice crystals of methane gas that clogged the 4 storry thing they were working on. Put that back in place and let it clog up completely and then it will stop at least one of the leaks.
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hit it with a hammer... Always solves the problem.
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BP is desperate and open to suggestions from the public! Now is your chance to help with this catastrophe.

Click on the link and look on the right side for the SUGGESTIONS LINK.

[link to www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com]
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This is sad! What a pathetic piece of shit company!
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My thought is they are hoping to get a general consensus of the public suggesting nukes.

If they get enough buy-in they can more easily justify the destruction caused by the nuclear option.

What we need is for someone who understands all this to inform the public which would be more catastrophic allowing the leak to reach equilibrium or nuking it. Anyone?

And is there any guarantee that a nuke would stop it rather that causing additional leaks?



A nuke is the most dangerous option and has to be prevented at all costs. It could cause an earthquake and the breaking of the oil volcano.
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I agree with you AC. Maybe GLP'ers can organize global mass protests to the news agencies and politicians and maybe gather en-mass for protests in front of all the BP gas/petrol stations to inform the public. NO NUCLEAR OPTION!!!!!!!!!!

How does next Saturday work for everyone?? If they haven't deployed the nukes by then.
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Orly? so uh... is this were i say i told you so now? or now? to all them SoB's saying that BP's technicians knew more than me and they have the miracle cure and my views on things were worthless.

actually its kinda cool that they are taking suggestions now. Im an inventor by nature and in my spare time ive sketched up a dozen or so different devices to stop this. Now if i can just find time to scan them and submit them


If you are serious...MAKE THE TIME TO SUBMIT THEM!!!!

If you submit the solution and they do nothing then at least your hands are clean, but if you have the solution and do nothing the world dies a slow painful death and you become equally responsible by doing/saying nothing.
 Quoting: ApostleCitizen


Something like this will wake up the people to their addiction to oil and natural gas. The longer this goes un checked, the higher chance of national governments doing something about it. Working together to not only clean up the mess, but also to push alternative energy to mainstream. Im sorry to say but Bush would have been a better president than obama during this disaster. But neither are good enough to take care of this and push a better/different future.

I would love to submit my ideas to fix this, many are stupidly simple and some are overly complex and others are fail safes for the possibilty of either or failing...but.

We all know deeply down inside, after this problem is fixed they are going to jump right back into off shore drilling. People are going to keep voting for these politicians getting contributions from oil companys and working under their hand. And we are going to throw hydrogen fuel cells, solar cells and ogranic fuels like algae to the side and forget about them until gas hits 4$ a gallon again.
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My thought is they are hoping to get a general consensus of the public suggesting nukes.

If they get enough buy-in they can more easily justify the destruction caused by the nuclear option.

What we need is for someone who understands all this to inform the public which would be more catastrophic allowing the leak to reach equilibrium or nuking it. Anyone?

And is there any guarantee that a nuke would stop it rather that causing additional leaks?



A nuke is the most dangerous option and has to be prevented at all costs. It could cause an earthquake and the breaking of the oil volcano.


I agree with you AC. Maybe GLP'ers can organize global mass protests to the news agencies and politicians and maybe gather en-mass for protests in front of all the BP gas/petrol stations to inform the public. NO NUCLEAR OPTION!!!!!!!!!!

How does next Saturday work for everyone?? If they haven't deployed the nukes by then.

 Quoting: ApostleCitizen



We definitey have to inform the people and contact the Environmental Minitries and the media in our countries. There are some environmental organizations and scientists who have already pointed out the dangers of the nuke option.

As far as I remember, the 11th of July was suggested for the nuclear option.
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Should we start a new thread regarding the prevention of the nuclear option?
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If you submit the solution and they do nothing then at least your hands are clean, but if you have the solution and do nothing the world dies a slow painful death and you become equally responsible by doing/saying nothing.
 Quoting: ApostleCitizen

You don't see that this is merely an "inclusiveness" ploy, to "spread the guilt"?

BP fucks up.

BP offers to share the guilt by asking for public advice.

BP slides off the hook, by sharing the guilt. It becomes "collective guilt".

Good psychological business strategem.
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If you submit the solution and they do nothing then at least your hands are clean, but if you have the solution and do nothing the world dies a slow painful death and you become equally responsible by doing/saying nothing.

You don't see that this is merely an "inclusiveness" ploy, to "spread the guilt"?

BP fucks up.

BP offers to share the guilt by asking for public advice.

BP slides off the hook, by sharing the guilt. It becomes "collective guilt".

Good psychological business strategem.
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But the public already shares the guilt due to their demand for cheap oil, so your theory is a FAIL!

Again, if someone has the solution and does/says nothing out of fear of "shared guilt" they are all the more guilty due to their inactivity.

Let's say that I have the solution to global warming or world peace and do nothing and because of my inactivity all of life dies...well, at least I didn't get sued? Is that the mentality? How sad! Is that the level of apathy we have obtained? Are we not still the stewards of this planet?
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I suggest they clean up their mess and pack their bags and move far away!
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DUCT TAPE. It fixes everything!
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If you submit the solution and they do nothing then at least your hands are clean, but if you have the solution and do nothing the world dies a slow painful death and you become equally responsible by doing/saying nothing.

You don't see that this is merely an "inclusiveness" ploy, to "spread the guilt"?

BP fucks up.

BP offers to share the guilt by asking for public advice.

BP slides off the hook, by sharing the guilt. It becomes "collective guilt".

Good psychological business strategem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 728979


It is part of their marketing strategy, but who cares? The oul spill has to be fixed, we owe this to the planet. And I agree with OP, we are all part of the problem. No demand, no drilling. No greedy shareholders, no risky drilling methods.

If you have an idea, please make a suggestion.
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