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Why WOMEN are SO SELFISH and ungrateful?

 
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Our daily misogynist thread.


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Yep, just when you think the He-Man Woma-'Hater's Club has disbanded, it always shows up again.

OP, note your thread title. First step might be to learn that women are individuals and not a collective. I know it's a strain but try really hard to see us as actual people with individual personalities, etc.

You said you did NOT love her so what's your problem?

And ungrateful for what?
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Yep, just when you think the He-Man Woma-'Hater's Club has disbanded, it always shows up again.

OP, note your thread title. First step might be to learn that women are individuals and not a collective. I know it's a strain but try really hard to see us as actual people with individual personalities, etc.

You said you did NOT love her so what's your problem?

And ungrateful for what?
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"try really hard to see us" .... . LOLOLOL
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Spiritual lesson for you here, OP. I mean that with total kindness and empathy as we all go through similar situations where we get hurt in this process. They are nudges to us, from our higher selves, that we aren't quite where we think we are yet. I would say you missed something in evaluating your feelings for/about her which could mean your "connection" isn't as clear as it could be and there's something there that needs healing. She was just showing you that- don't shoot the messenger, find the message. In the light, she gave you a gift. hf

As for others, I see a lot men down on women because they don't like manipulation and control. They hate it and the base emotion of all hate is fear. Thus it keeps coming back at them, never seeming to think the issue is coming from within themselves. Heal your own fears and you'll attract the kind of woman that isn't like that. Until then, like attracts like, over and over until you "get" it. You get what you put out there, denying it or calling me names (as some reactionary folks are bound to do) for saying it doesn't change it. It's not what you do, what they do, it's who you ARE, including and most importantly what you deny about yourself. The world is your mirror.
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Dont be a dick. Obviously these are the only types of women you have met.

We are not all selfish ingrates.

There is no real reason to remain friends with an ex, unless there is a child involved, property, or a business.

Move on. So many people come here wondering why their ex's dont respond to their phone calls, or texts, or emails.

They want to move on. They are an ex for a reason. now grab a hold of your balls, and do the same.


What kind of of a selfish insensitive human being are you? We have been together for 5 month. Been seeing each other almost everyday and had such a strong spiritual connection at first and now you are telling me that you just want her to forget about all of this like it was just a distant memory and then move on like it never happened? I don't think you realize how painful it is for me.


It may be painfull to you, but you cannot catagorize all women this way, just because one rips out your heart, does not mean we all do. And 5 months ? How old are you ?

Now re-read what you wrote me. Saw each other almost every day, had a spiritual connection at first...

Come on. You are saying it yourself. It was over about
3 months ago.


Again you are missing the point. It's not about if it was over 3 month ago or not. It's about FEELINGS. Do not pretend like you love someone or care about someone or be with someone if you have no feelings for them. I was planning/thinking of breaking up with her too but I decided to wait because she was moving to a new apartment in a week so I thought I would rather not put pressure on her because I know how difficult her life was anyways. Yet she didn't even care about me. I remember how before I came over her apartment that night I did some shopping for her and even got her a plushy toy to make her happy and instead I got dumped.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 971626

You make absolutely no sense at all. If you were planninig on dumping her anyway why are you on here whining?You are just upset because she did it to you before you could break up with her. Grow up! Stop blaming eveyone else and take a good look at yourself and at your own motivations.
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Our daily misogynist thread.


All humans lie.


Geesh! Don't you watch House!!!




Yep, just when you think the He-Man Woma-'Hater's Club has disbanded, it always shows up again.

OP, note your thread title. First step might be to learn that women are individuals and not a collective. I know it's a strain but try really hard to see us as actual people with individual personalities, etc.

You said you did NOT love her so what's your problem?

And ungrateful for what?
 Quoting: Bluebird


Everyone defines LOVE in their own way. It takes time to love someone. I did develop feelings for her and maybe it was indeed love to some extent. My problem with her is this .... You can't just tell someone you love them and then when it's all over you turn into stone like as if NOTHING ever happened between the two of you. One must have heart made of stone to be this way. This is why I come to the same conclusion time after time that women in general are PRETENDERS. I don't think they even know why they do what they do. They live in a moment. They are driven by 'feelings in the moment' but when it is all over they are not willing to take responsibility and just run. No dignity ....
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Unfortunately, it is only temporary. If the SHTF, they will be treated like animals. So, let them enjoy these days.

Most men are animals, and women will suffer the most when the shit hits the fan. And it's horrible.

So please, refrain from complaining about their current status.
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+700 000 000 000 000 000 000 000

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You said it right there. No need to repeat it.
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Dont be a dick. Obviously these are the only types of women you have met.

We are not all selfish ingrates.

There is no real reason to remain friends with an ex, unless there is a child involved, property, or a business.

Move on. So many people come here wondering why their ex's dont respond to their phone calls, or texts, or emails.

They want to move on. They are an ex for a reason. now grab a hold of your balls, and do the same.


What kind of of a selfish insensitive human being are you? We have been together for 5 month. Been seeing each other almost everyday and had such a strong spiritual connection at first and now you are telling me that you just want her to forget about all of this like it was just a distant memory and then move on like it never happened? I don't think you realize how painful it is for me.


It may be painfull to you, but you cannot catagorize all women this way, just because one rips out your heart, does not mean we all do. And 5 months ? How old are you ?

Now re-read what you wrote me. Saw each other almost every day, had a spiritual connection at first...

Come on. You are saying it yourself. It was over about
3 months ago.


Again you are missing the point. It's not about if it was over 3 month ago or not. It's about FEELINGS. Do not pretend like you love someone or care about someone or be with someone if you have no feelings for them. I was planning/thinking of breaking up with her too but I decided to wait because she was moving to a new apartment in a week so I thought I would rather not put pressure on her because I know how difficult her life was anyways. Yet she didn't even care about me. I remember how before I came over her apartment that night I did some shopping for her and even got her a plushy toy to make her happy and instead I got dumped.

You make absolutely no sense at all. If you were planninig on dumping her anyway why are you on here whining?You are just upset because she did it to you before you could break up with her. Grow up! Stop blaming eveyone else and take a good look at yourself and at your own motivations.
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It's not about WHO broke up with whom first. It's not even about the break up itself but HOW IT WAS DONE. And the fact that she pretty much erased everything that we went through during our time together.
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Unfortunately, it is only temporary. If the SHTF, they will be treated like animals. So, let them enjoy these days.

Most men are animals, and women will suffer the most when the shit hits the fan. And it's horrible.

So please, refrain from complaining about their current status.


+700 000 000 000 000 000 000 000

clappa


You said it right there. No need to repeat it.
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There is no need to treat anyone like animals or wish for them to be treated like animals.
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Sounds like she's flakey more than anything else.

You need to improve your judgement.

Most women aren't so much good pretenders as, I hate to say, men are gullible and sometimes a little stupid.

Just don't take people at their word alone - look for actions that back it up. And look for girls that aren't super-high maintenance - meaning, don't go for a total slob but don't go for one who spends an hour on her hair before leaving the house every day either.
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Unfortunately, it is only temporary. If the SHTF, they will be treated like animals. So, let them enjoy these days.

Most men are animals, and women will suffer the most when the shit hits the fan. And it's horrible.

So please, refrain from complaining about their current status.


+700 000 000 000 000 000 000 000

clappa


You said it right there. No need to repeat it.


There is no need to treat anyone like animals or wish for them to be treated like animals.
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You did not get it. When the system collapses.. it is going to become a lawless warzone. We in Europe can still recall what happens when there are no laws but the law of the survival of the fittest or the first person who has a gun or any kind of weapon. I would personally never treat any other human like an animal or hurt an innocent but trust me.. there are billions who would and will once they wont be obstructed by any petty laws.
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Unfortunately, it is only temporary. If the SHTF, they will be treated like animals. So, let them enjoy these days.

Most men are animals, and women will suffer the most when the shit hits the fan. And it's horrible.

So please, refrain from complaining about their current status.


+700 000 000 000 000 000 000 000

clappa


You said it right there. No need to repeat it.


There is no need to treat anyone like animals or wish for them to be treated like animals.


You did not get it. When the system collapses.. it is going to become a lawless warzone. We in Europe can still recall what happens when there are no laws but the law of the survival of the fittest or the first person who has a gun or any kind of weapon. I would personally never treat any other human like an animal or hurt an innocent but trust me.. there are billions who would and will once they wont be obstructed by any petty laws.
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To add.. women aren't exactly treated well in a lawless warzone. That was my point. They are going to have it difficult, including children, the feeble and feminized males and any other minority unfit of protecting itself on their own.
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natural law:
man gives - woman receives

further:
your rational mind cannot comprehend an irrational mind.

compare women with little children, then you'll understand.
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OP, do you really think all women are selfish and ungrateful because of what one woman did to you? I really want to know why you generalize like that. Why not make the title say "The woman that just dumped me is selfish and ungrateful"? See how much better that would be?
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Unfortunately, it is only temporary. If the SHTF, they will be treated like animals. So, let them enjoy these days.

Men are animals, and women will suffer the most when the shit hits the fan.

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Some of them REALLY deserve what you're talking about.
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OP, do you really think all women are selfish and ungrateful because of what one woman did to you? I really want to know why you generalize like that. Why not make the title say "The woman that just dumped me is selfish and ungrateful"? See how much better that would be?
 Quoting: odie 777834


I do think that the majority (not all) of women are selfish and ungrateful (to various extent) according to my experience. Women are also jealous beings and seeking attention from other men even though they will say otherwise. This is not based upon only one experience that I have had but many and I am confident there is enough men here to back me up. I also believe that women were not always been this way. I think somewhere in the past there were women who had an amazing solid character but this has been long gone.
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It's a game to them, you weren't biting or worthy of her time. She moved on. I wish I could find the quote I'm looking for but women are really brilliant. Men gullible and clueless for the most part. That's why they like the liars cheats and scoundrels. They find them challenging.


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This is why we're fucked.
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OP, do you really think all women are selfish and ungrateful because of what one woman did to you? I really want to know why you generalize like that. Why not make the title say "The woman that just dumped me is selfish and ungrateful"? See how much better that would be?


I do think that the majority (not all) of women are selfish and ungrateful (to various extent) according to my experience. Women are also jealous beings and seeking attention from other men even though they will say otherwise. This is not based upon only one experience that I have had but many and I am confident there is enough men here to back me up. I also believe that women were not always been this way. I think somewhere in the past there were women who had an amazing solid character but this has been long gone.
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If most of the women you've been with are like that, you are a poor judge of character. You pick the bad ones. Like attracts like.

Oh look, you generalized again. "Women are also jealous beings and seeking attention from other men even though they will say otherwise."

Some women are jealous and some men are jealous, and some aren't. Why not treat people as individuals. Sounds like you think women are trash. Why do you even want to be with one?
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Most women are always looking to "trade up". Just the natural law of the jungle for them. It is what their hormones tell them to do.

For a guy the trick is to figure out for each individual woman WHAT she is looking to "trade up" to!

Good looks?
Money?
Excitement?
Social Status?
A better fuck?
More emotional security?

The "prettier" or "sexier" the woman the MORE OPTIONS she has over time to "trade up".

For each woman the "trade up" calculation is different since each one is looking for something different. If you are an everyday guy with an everyday job who is secure in himself what you want is the woman who is most concerned with "emotional security" since those are the ones, the ONLY ones, that are in the race as if it was a marathon versus a sprint. All the rest of them will eventually find someone to "trade up" to.

It is just the way women are driven by their hormones/subconscious drives, and there is nothing you can do to change it.

Best of luck.

Been there myself before I finally figured this one out.
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She was demanding sex from me all the time (once I had to hold to tight my boxers because she was trying to take them off of me) and I think when she realized she couldn't get enough of it from me she decided to find someone else.



the evidence is clear: you stink in bed.
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He didn't give it to her enough so she went elsewhere.
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All the rest of them will eventually find someone to "trade up" to.


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Not true. I've been with the same man since I was 17. I'm 45 now. I have no intention of trading him for anyone.
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She was demanding sex from me all the time (once I had to hold to tight my boxers because she was trying to take them off of me) and I think when she realized she couldn't get enough of it from me she decided to find someone else.



the evidence is clear: you stink in bed.

 Quoting: Coolhandluke74


A decent woman will never be in a position to gauge such things.

Comparison in this regard is tantamount to unfaithfulness, and if she is unfaithful then he is better off without the lying, cheating whore.
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You think a decent woman doesn't know if her man is good in bet? How do you figure? I'm in my forties and have only slept with one man my whole life and I know he's not good in bed. What makes you think a woman wouldn't know if her lover is good or not?
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Most women are always looking to "trade up". Just the natural law of the jungle for them. It is what their hormones tell them to do.

For a guy the trick is to figure out for each individual woman WHAT she is looking to "trade up" to!

Good looks?
Money?
Excitement?
Social Status?
A better fuck?
More emotional security?

The "prettier" or "sexier" the woman the MORE OPTIONS she has over time to "trade up".

For each woman the "trade up" calculation is different since each one is looking for something different. If you are an everyday guy with an everyday job who is secure in himself what you want is the woman who is most concerned with "emotional security" since those are the ones, the ONLY ones, that are in the race as if it was a marathon versus a sprint. All the rest of them will eventually find someone to "trade up" to.

It is just the way women are driven by their hormones/subconscious drives, and there is nothing you can do to change it.

Best of luck.

Been there myself before I finally figured this one out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 967860


But what about all of this couples I see that been together for more than 5 years already and are planning to get married. My relationships never lasted long. Maybe I am just looking at the wrong women? I don't think I am any different than any of my fellow friends. More importantly I do have a good loving and caring heart. I always thought that this quality was going to win me success but oh boy was I wrong to think this way. And some women here complain and call me misogynist. I am not. I hate and love everyone equally but since I am a man who seeks women I concentrate on what's wrong with women and not men.
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You think a decent woman doesn't know if her man is good in bet? How do you figure? I'm in my forties and have only slept with one man my whole life and I know he's not good in bed. What makes you think a woman wouldn't know if her lover is good or not?
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You can't know any such thing if you have no point of reference.
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All the rest of them will eventually find someone to "trade up" to.



Not true. I've been with the same man since I was 17. I'm 45 now. I have no intention of trading him for anyone.
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See such women like yourself are rare. Your man must be lucky to have you.
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Dont be a dick. Obviously these are the only types of women you have met.

We are not all selfish ingrates.

There is no real reason to remain friends with an ex, unless there is a child involved, property, or a business.

Move on. So many people come here wondering why their ex's dont respond to their phone calls, or texts, or emails.

They want to move on. They are an ex for a reason. now grab a hold of your balls, and do the same.


What kind of of a selfish insensitive human being are you? We have been together for 5 month. Been seeing each other almost everyday and had such a strong spiritual connection at first and now you are telling me that you just want her to forget about all of this like it was just a distant memory and then move on like it never happened? I don't think you realize how painful it is for me.


It may be painfull to you, but you cannot catagorize all women this way, just because one rips out your heart, does not mean we all do. And 5 months ? How old are you ?

Now re-read what you wrote me. Saw each other almost every day, had a spiritual connection at first...

Come on. You are saying it yourself. It was over about
3 months ago.


Again you are missing the point. It's not about if it was over 3 month ago or not. It's about FEELINGS. Do not pretend like you love someone or care about someone or be with someone if you have no feelings for them. I was planning/thinking of breaking up with her too but I decided to wait because she was moving to a new apartment in a week so I thought I would rather not put pressure on her because I know how difficult her life was anyways. Yet she didn't even care about me. I remember how before I came over her apartment that night I did some shopping for her and even got her a plushy toy to make her happy and instead I got dumped.

You make absolutely no sense at all. If you were planninig on dumping her anyway why are you on here whining?You are just upset because she did it to you before you could break up with her. Grow up! Stop blaming eveyone else and take a good look at yourself and at your own motivations.
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He's not making any sense, cause this thread is probably another BS thread. He contradicts himself.

bsflag
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She was demanding sex from me all the time (once I had to hold to tight my boxers because she was trying to take them off of me) and I think when she realized she couldn't get enough of it from me she decided to find someone else.



the evidence is clear: you stink in bed.



A decent woman will never be in a position to gauge such things.

Comparison in this regard is tantamount to unfaithfulness, and if she is unfaithful then he is better off without the lying, cheating whore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 971490


Decent or not she has always told me that she was a very sexual person. I told her that I was too but sometimes when I am coming tired from work I just don't feel like having sex. Genuine love never expressed through sex but our society led us to believe that somehow sex is love.
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Love = wanting the best for the other person and to be willing to sacrifice yourself for that higher love.







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have a blessed journey BEING it, and FINDING it in others... it is very rare.
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You think a decent woman doesn't know if her man is good in bet? How do you figure? I'm in my forties and have only slept with one man my whole life and I know he's not good in bed. What makes you think a woman wouldn't know if her lover is good or not?


You can't know any such thing if you have no point of reference.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 971490

I don't need a point of reference. I know if I'm satisfied or not. He gets on, goes at it for a couple of minutes until he is done, gets off and goes to sleep. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know that some men are better lovers than he is.

Luckily he has plenty of other good points (outside the bedroom) that more than make up for it.





GLP