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Why WOMEN are SO SELFISH and ungrateful?

 
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Not.
All.
Of.
Them.
Are.
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It's a game to them, you weren't biting or worthy of her time. She moved on. I wish I could find the quote I'm looking for but women are really brilliant. Men gullible and clueless for the most part. That's why they like the liars cheats and scoundrels. They find them challenging.
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+1
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+2, ain´t that the truth
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The younger girls have hardened their hearts. You should pity them trading up men like used cars. They are living in utter darkness.
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OP your observations are accurate and correct in every way. There are exceptions, but *generally* women *are* a lot more selfish and ungrateful than men, in my experience and other's. The reason lies in social economics. Men are socially impoverished. Feminism has done nothing to balance social economics. They operate under the guise of "equality" but feminism is basically trying to hang on to all the benefits of the old way (women protected as the weaker sex) without the drawbacks, and all the benefits of the new way (equal pay) without the drawbacks (equal responsibility, carrying equal load physically, financially and socially). Women today are having a ball. They are statistically *more* promiscuous than men *and* they still perpetuate misandrist ideology like "men only want sex". Your story is a typical tale of the female being more driven sexually, almost raping you if you hadn't held your underwear tightly on - and she would have justified the rape with comments like, "men always want sex". Several of my male friends have had their innocence raped before they were ready and willing, by pushy girlfriends, or she'd pretend to be so committed and in love to try get him into bed, but if he said they should wait to have sex, she'd dump him and treat him like he doesn't exist. This is psychopathic behaviour, or sociopathic. Selfish, un-caring, lying, manipulative, hurt anyone deeply to fulfil your needs. Female narcissism has exploded in growth over the last decades. Listen to the song "Primadonna Girl" and tell me a chill doesn't run down your spine when you realise what cold-blooded ruthless psychopaths these so-called princesses are. "All I ever wanted was the world" is one of the lines. It's not cute. These women aren't "brilliant" because of this. They are women who have not developed as people. A real self-made woman doesn't need to be selfish or ungrateful, because she realises what it is to work for the things she wants. The selfish princesses are a collection of facades, presented only for as long as it gets what she wants. She never really loved you. She was not confused. Trust me when I say she knew *exactly* what she was doing when she pretended to love you. Sociopaths test and manipulate, create personas which they've built up from the information you give them when they probe you. You'll know when the probing stage is complete, they will suddenly change from (what appeared to be) interested in you, to working with the information. Real healthy people *cannot* turn caring and feelings on and off like a tap, only head cases like narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths who lack empathy. That is their defining trait, lack of empathy. You were right in saying it's not normal. Her response is typical of manipulators. Another one she might've used is "people get ditched all the time", invalidating your feelings, trying to trivialise it. The truth is they don't care. It's like a 4-year old child who doesn't realise that other people exist and have feelings just like theirs. They are literally selfish children inside. This will not change as long as women still get 5 to 10 times the amount of social "income" as men, i.e. attention, praise, gifts, care, sensitivity, offers, dates & dinners, approaches, sympathy, empathy etc. Men are impoverished when it comes to these social wealths, that's why men are generally so grateful, and women so ungrateful. It's also why generally women can afford to be so selfish with it, and men cannot. A woman will always get more, socially, if she's selfish, but a man only gets very little, and he must be very generous just to get it. Women just sit there, giving nothing, and they will receive social wealth from generous men. If a man just sat there, expecting to be treated like a Prince, he would live a lonely life. He would never be asked out, even in this age of emancipated woman. Why? Because women don't want equality, they want priveleges. Because they are selfish.
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Why the fuck has this old, old thread been dug up?
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The OP last posted on this thread

05/15/2010 09:54 PM

FFS people get a life!
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P.S. those who say she has a right to treat people she "loves" like yesterday's garbage whenever she feels like it, you are right.

You are right, anyone has the right to be selfish, cold-hearted, uncaring, using, manipulative, two faced.
But having the right to do something doesn't make it the right thing to do. And having the right to be selfish doesn't make her any less selfish. The OP wasn't asking if women can be selfish, he asked why they choose to be so selfish.
The short answer is: women can afford to be.
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Your cunty ex's whorish ways make my balls itch! ..But really, yeah, she ain't no good.
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This is the society you have ..there is no such thing as loved if there is no material gain for her...a consumer driven market in love..go find a wife outside the U.S...and move out of the U.S...otherwise you are doom..that is if you can move out of the U.S....also if you bring your wife to the US you are done...they lear fast and change their ways..they become rotten. men are at fault too for putting up with this farse. and saying yes my dear to everything they say..today you don;t have a wife you have a roomate...and she expect you to be part wife and you expect her to be part husband..when each have a role...that the TV, and media have you brainwash, you have to be politicly correct..and all that BS
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Survival of the species. It's embedded in them. They must take care of themselves and of their offspring in the first place, at all cost.
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Anyone with that attitude attaches themselves permanently to the physical plane (what will soon transform into hell).
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The OP last posted on this thread

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FFS people get a life!
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Because it's in their nature.

They get trained from a young age to be slaves to vanity, drama and hypergamy. The "princess" mentality.

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Read and educate yourself.

Women are not a mystery, they are an algorithm. Learn how they work and stop falling for the game.
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It seems to me that there are men and women world-wide that are selfish. Oh, and also many reds, blacks, yellows, whites and browns that are selfish.

While I'm at it: there are also many rich and poor people that are selfish. Don't even get me started on young/old either. ;-)
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I'm sorry this happened to you. This woman does sound a little off. I wish you could see it through our eyes, though. By the way I am a believer in abstinence until marriage, which explains that I went through the "prude' part. You'll understand after you read.

We wait for them to call. They drag it out as some bizaare form of torture to make us think they're too important to bother.

They finally call us at 6:15 and announce that they can pick us up at 6:30. They don't consider that unlike them, we can't just throw a khaki-Polo combo on. Our clothes, hair, makeup, and overall presentation take time. Also, they don't consider that we may have wanted to make other plans, and not wait until the last minute for them to call.

They act like they really care, causing us to let our guard down after being together a while.

They pressure us to have sex. If we don't, we're a prude. If we do, we're a slut. If they do, they get high fives from their friends who also call us sluts. We can't win for losing.

After being intimate, they feel as if they have acheived their goal. They begin to see that we're really committed, and they are scared of committment. They're done with us, and want to throw us away like a piece of trash.

If we're not intimate, they give us the silent treatment, and punish us for that. But, why would we want to give our bodies when they won't give their hearts?

We continue to be a great girlfriend. We cook their meals, buy them little gifts, . We talk to our friends about how much we love them. They talk to their friends about how they feel trapped.

They start making up excuses not to see us. They may become obsessed with work or a hobby to avoid commitment. They may develop a wondering eye.

We try to pretend like everything's OK, but it's not. When we ask them if there's a problem or why they've been distant, they say we expect too much and they're not ready for commitment.

In some bizarre way, they actually manage to make US feel guilty for caring about them. They make us feel like we are undeserving of a loving,commited relationship, and that we were selfish to want such a thing.

We slip into a depression for a few days or weeks, depending on how long the relationship lasted. Before we can even get out that box of Kleenex, they've moved on to the next girl.

And you think WOMEN are selfish?

Last Edited by Dease on 10/12/2012 01:46 AM
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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As far as you helping her when she was sick, refer back to Briffault's law:

BRIFFAULT’S LAW:

The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.

There are a few corollaries I would add:

Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.

Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit (see corollary 1)

A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male (which is not bloody likely).

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Because they have a big stink hole that wants to consume everything.
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Nothing they say it seems can be really taken seriously because anything they do only serves their own agenda.
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True that.

And man you lucky she broke it off now before you married her or something.

Bitch be crazy.
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I'm sorry this happened to you. This woman does sound a little off. I wish you could see it through our eyes, though. By the way I am a believer in abstinence until marriage, which explains that I went through the "prude' part. You'll understand after you read.

We wait for them to call. They drag it out as some bizaare form of torture to make us think they're too important to bother.

They finally call us at 6:15 and announce that they can pick us up at 6:30. They don't consider that unlike them, we can't just throw a khaki-Polo combo on. Our clothes, hair, makeup, and overall presentation take time. Also, they don't consider that we may have wanted to make other plans, and not wait until the last minute for them to call.

They act like they really care, causing us to let our guard down after being together a while.

They pressure us to have sex. If we don't, we're a prude. If we do, we're a slut. If they do, they get high fives from their friends who also call us sluts. We can't win for losing.

After being intimate, they feel as if they have acheived their goal. They begin to see that we're really committed, and they are scared of committment. They're done with us, and want to throw us away like a piece of trash.

If we're not intimate, they give us the silent treatment, and punish us for that. But, why would we want to give our bodies when they won't give their hearts?

We continue to be a great girlfriend. We cook their meals, buy them little gifts, . We talk to our friends about how much we love them. They talk to their friends about how they feel trapped.

They start making up excuses not to see us. They may become obsessed with work or a hobby to avoid commitment. They may develop a wondering eye.

We try to pretend like everything's OK, but it's not. When we ask them if there's a problem or why they've been distant, they say we expect too much and they're not ready for commitment.

In some bizarre way, they actually manage to make US feel guilty for caring about them. They make us feel like we are undeserving of a loving,commited relationship, and that we were selfish to want such a thing.

We slip into a depression for a few days or weeks, depending on how long the relationship lasted. Before we can even get out that box of Kleenex, they've moved on to the next girl.

And you think WOMEN are selfish?
 Quoting: Dease


The kind of men you are talking about are the Alpha Bad Boys.

If you don't like that kind of treatment, try giving the Betas a chance for once.
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Poster is from Canada, wherein did he mention an "American princess"?
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I don't understand why women are so selfish. I have been with someone for 5 month. Already a month or so into our relationship she told me that she had great feelings for me and that she loved me. I on the other hand told her that I liked her but that I couldn't call it love yet. She pressured me to love her but I told her I needed more time. Then she broke up with me out of the blue one day after being with me for 5 month. At first she told me she wants to stay friends and a week later she wouldn't reply to my SMS or even calls. So in the end I got a hold of her and asked her why was it that she was so cold to me. She told me that she has no more feelings for me. So I asked her, how could this be? If you truly loved me you would still at least miss me. She said 'I don't want to hurt you but I don't have feelings for you anymore'. She also said that she thought she loved me at the time. I told her that wasn't normal but she kept saying that I can't define what is normal and what isn't. All this time I was trying to be so supportive of her. We practically been together almost everyday. I was there for her when she needed me the most. When she had a stomach flu I was there for her. I even took her to the hospital and was there with her even though I haven't slept for more than 24 hours. This is already not the first time I observe and experience how women are really selfish human beings who only care about themselves in the end. They are good PRETENDERS that's for sure. Nothing they say it seems can be really taken seriously because anything they do only serves their own agenda.
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she's being dicked by another man
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Both men and women are so very unbalanced and have lost respect for each other. There are so many hurt hearts out there, that are in need of healing.

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Wow. Good thing you found out at 5 months and not 5 years. We're not all like that. As much as it sucks, consider it a lesson learned. I'm also going to guess that she's mentally still stuck in High School.
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all it is unwise to know about her
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Somewhere in the dungeon of the net, this saying was found:

A woman's love is like an oil spill; the poison and desolation require decades of hard labor to properly clean up, and not all of the damage is reversible. - Nim

The Op's lucky to be dumped earlier, not until the "oil spill" incident. To those fools tarot number 0 (inexperienced ones), better listen to those guys who've been wiser after hellish relationship with bitchy women. There are still minorities of good women out there. Find the nurturing types, the sharing of the burden love thy neighbor types, not the princess types, those who felt entitled to special pampering without reciprocating.
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I don't love you, stay with me. What? Your not staying?
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ignore her and she will become interested in you again.

but dont even think about taking her back when she does.

if yiou want to understand women, google Arthur Schopenauer's famous essay 'On Women"
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Because they can be, so be selfish yourself (dont buy into their games)and when they wonder why you dont fall for it DITCH THEM, if they ask you for love validation DITCH them, they want to see other guys (DITCH THEM), if they seem like its all about them or what they want (DITCH THEM).

There is too many cruel people out there (whom are dishonest and not sincere), so be cafeful and meet as many people as you want dont give them all your time just 10%.
You will feel better in the long run knowing people around you care about you for you.

Thats all you need to learn and to give up on trying change people - let the right love come to you and dont look for it, because they can tell when your looking for it!

Good Luckpeace
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I don't understand why women are so selfish. I have been with someone for 5 month. Already a month or so into our relationship she told me that she had great feelings for me and that she loved me. I on the other hand told her that I liked her but that I couldn't call it love yet. She pressured me to love her but I told her I needed more time. Then she broke up with me out of the blue one day after being with me for 5 month. At first she told me she wants to stay friends and a week later she wouldn't reply to my SMS or even calls. So in the end I got a hold of her and asked her why was it that she was so cold to me. She told me that she has no more feelings for me. So I asked her, how could this be? If you truly loved me you would still at least miss me. She said 'I don't want to hurt you but I don't have feelings for you anymore'. She also said that she thought she loved me at the time. I told her that wasn't normal but she kept saying that I can't define what is normal and what isn't. All this time I was trying to be so supportive of her. We practically been together almost everyday. I was there for her when she needed me the most. When she had a stomach flu I was there for her. I even took her to the hospital and was there with her even though I haven't slept for more than 24 hours. This is already not the first time I observe and experience how women are really selfish human beings who only care about themselves in the end. They are good PRETENDERS that's for sure. Nothing they say it seems can be really taken seriously because anything they do only serves their own agenda.
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women can turn it on or off.

when you don't feel the same, we move on. why would any woman waste her time with someone who doesn't love her?
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