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WTH. Found on George's UrbanSurvival.com site today. . .


Air tests from the Louisiana coast reveal human health threats from the oil disaster
The media coverage of the BP oil disaster to date has focused largely on the threats to wildlife, but the latest evaluation of air monitoring data shows a serious threat to human health from airborne chemicals emitted by the ongoing deepwater gusher.

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Today the Louisiana Environmental Action Network released its analysis of air monitoring test results by the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA's air testing data comes from Venice, a coastal community 75 miles south of New Orleans in Louisiana's Plaquemines Parish.

The findings show that levels of airborne chemicals have far exceeded state standards and what's considered safe for human exposure.

For instance, hydrogen sulfide has been detected at concentrations more than 100 times greater than the level known to cause physical reactions in people. Among the health effects of hydrogen sulfide exposure are eye and respiratory irritation as well as nausea, dizziness, confusion and headache.

The concentration threshold for people to experience physical symptoms from hydrogen sulfide is about 5 to 10 parts per billion. But as recently as last Thursday, the EPA measured levels at 1,000 ppb. The highest levels of airborne hydrogen sulfide measured so far were on May 3, at 1,192 ppb.

Testing data also shows levels of volatile organic chemicals that far exceed Louisiana's own ambient air standards. VOCs cause acute physical health symptoms including eye, skin and respiratory irritation as well as headaches, dizziness, weakness, nausea and confusion.

Louisiana's ambient air standard for the VOC benzene, for example, is 3.76 ppb, while its standard for methylene chloride is 61.25 ppb. Long-term exposure to airborne benzene has been linked to cancer, while the EPA considers methylene chloride a probable carcinogen.

Air testing results show VOC concentrations far above these state standards. On May 6, for example, the EPA measured VOCs at levels of 483 ppb. The highest levels detected to date were on April 30, at 3,084 ppb, following by May 2, at 3,416 ppb.

Here's a chart based on the data from LEAN's analysis, which was done by award-winning analytical chemist Wilma Subra:

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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]
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The EPA data goes against this private study. Very strange. Someone is VERY wrong:


To date, TAGA monitoring has found that these air toxics were not present or were detected at very low levels in the areas monitored along the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans, LA. The levels found are approximately 1000 times less than levels that would cause temporary discomfort, irritation, or other minor effects.
[link to www.epa.gov]
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only gonna get worst as time goes on.
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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]
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Of course.

What else would you expect, really.
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The EPA data goes against this private study. Very strange. Someone is VERY wrong:


To date, TAGA monitoring has found that these air toxics were not present or were detected at very low levels in the areas monitored along the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans, LA. The levels found are approximately 1000 times less than levels that would cause temporary discomfort, irritation, or other minor effects.
[link to www.epa.gov]
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We've known that something is very wrong with the EPA for years. They have been "bought out" by the corporations like most other departments of our government. It's very sad, but in a democracy where the emphasis is on free market capitalism and constantly raising profit margins, it was bound to happen.
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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]


Of course.

What else would you expect, really.
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Maybe your right. But this could be a very serious event and people should "be prepared" not lied to. Not sure who is lying or maybe better said, miss-calculating, but it sure is something to keep an eye on. Better said, a nose on it.
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wtf

We won't get a straight answer until it's way too late.

Last Edited by Stereo on 05/17/2010 10:06 AM
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EPA might like to leave a little leeway +/- 75%.
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George and the webotties seem to think, and they are the first to admit they get a lot of things wrong or off, that there will be 220 million people MOVING NORTH of 40 degrees, escaping health problems (blue flu):

[link to urbansurvival.com]

I normally raise the BS flag on web-bot stuff, but this is getting pretty darn scary. Between this oil gushing out and that Icelandic volcano, it is darn-right time to prepare!
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I remember part of a t.v. program about a lake and a explosion or bubbles of toxic air coming out and rolling towards a village , killing everything on his path! OMG!
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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]


Of course.

What else would you expect, really.


Maybe your right. But this could be a very serious event and people should "be prepared" not lied to. Not sure who is lying or maybe better said, miss-calculating, but it sure is something to keep an eye on. Better said, a nose on it.
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Right.

The overpaid, underworked minions of Washington DC should stop lying to their employers, and provide them with truthful, timely information in times of crisis.

Yeah okay. Let's all hold our breath (literally) while we wait for them to do that.
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I remember part of a t.v. program about a lake and a explosion or bubbles of toxic air coming out and rolling towards a village , killing everything on his path! OMG!
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Yes; saw that too on Discovery. Cameron I think it was. Killed everything within 25 KM or something like that (explosion was one thing; poisonous gases were the other.)

What George Ure is tripping on and perhaps rightfully so, is what happens when a hurricane rips up through there, right on up to the mid-Atlantic states, carrying potentially poisonous air with it?
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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]
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makes me feel like puking.
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The EPA data goes against this private study. Very strange. Someone is VERY wrong:


To date, TAGA monitoring has found that these air toxics were not present or were detected at very low levels in the areas monitored along the Gulf Coast and in New Orleans, LA. The levels found are approximately 1000 times less than levels that would cause temporary discomfort, irritation, or other minor effects.
[link to www.epa.gov]
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more wrong than you may guess..
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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]


Of course.

What else would you expect, really.


Maybe your right. But this could be a very serious event and people should "be prepared" not lied to. Not sure who is lying or maybe better said, miss-calculating, but it sure is something to keep an eye on. Better said, a nose on it.


Right.

The overpaid, underworked minions of Washington DC should stop lying to their employers, and provide them with truthful, timely information in times of crisis.

Yeah okay. Let's all hold our breath (literally) while we wait for them to do that.
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Yes. We have to inform each other.

Here is a good thread on some more data George Ure calculated:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

400 million gals per day splurging from Gulk leak?!?!



If that is even remotely true, we are ALL screw-driver'ed along almost any coast on the Atlantic in this northern hemisphere at least.
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Then there is this thread today from "Vesper":

Thread: So, The Oil Has Made It's Way To The Loop Current????

So, The Oil Has Made It's Way To The Loop Current????
(Gulf Stream)



70% of oxygen comes from the OCEANS!
[link to earthsky.org]

If we kill of the tiny plants that live in the oceans, we will risk our air-supply. Not to mention the fact it is getting filled with toxic poisons, it will also be void of the very oxygen we need to survive.

Got plants?
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Yeah, this is kind of important to those of us in the Gulf States.

I hope this gets a pin.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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I am like a canary in a coal mine.
I was chemically poisoned and now receive ssi because of immune problems.

I am 7 miles off the coast a little ways south of Tampa.
If I start getting sick then its time to go.
I am extra sensitive to chemicals barium is what made me sick.
Barium is what the "mud" is,
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Fucking the wind currents to keep the spill from moving up east coast..
No yesterday, no tomorrow.
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Yeah, this is kind of important to those of us in the Gulf States.

I hope this gets a pin.
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I could only imagine. Well, to a degree with that volcano sort of know what you are feeling actually.
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I am like a canary in a coal mine.
I was chemically poisoned and now receive ssi because of immune problems.

I am 7 miles off the coast a little ways south of Tampa.
If I start getting sick then its time to go.
I am extra sensitive to chemicals barium is what made me sick.
Barium is what the "mud" is,
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Me too. I was poisoned with an organophosphate and have multiple problems. This will be worse for us (I'm in TX). I wouldn't wish this on my enemies (if I had any).
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I am like a canary in a coal mine.
I was chemically poisoned and now receive ssi because of immune problems.

I am 7 miles off the coast a little ways south of Tampa.
If I start getting sick then its time to go.
I am extra sensitive to chemicals barium is what made me sick.
Barium is what the "mud" is,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 877784


I am now praying for you too...My elderly parents, and my daughter with 2 young children live on the coast (inter-coastal) near you, they think I'm crazy for wanting them to come north for the summer. I fear that by the time they know they must leave it will be too late and too big of an event for them to leave.

Please keep all of us posted and stay in touch with your GLP family to let us know what is going on.
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I am like a canary in a coal mine.
I was chemically poisoned and now receive ssi because of immune problems.

I am 7 miles off the coast a little ways south of Tampa.
If I start getting sick then its time to go.
I am extra sensitive to chemicals barium is what made me sick.
Barium is what the "mud" is,


Me too. I was poisoned with an organophosphate and have multiple problems. This will be worse for us (I'm in TX). I wouldn't wish this on my enemies (if I had any).
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yeah just LOOK UP folks
WE IS FUCKED!!!
THEY ARE POISONING US EVERY SINGLE GODDANM DAY...
guess now that Israhell has all our loot they can kill us all off...
they don't chemtrail in jewland israhell....
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Re: UH-OH :: LA, USA :: levels of airborne chemicals have ***far exceeded*** state standards and what's considered safe for human exposure.
WTH. Found on George's UrbanSurvival.com site today. . .


Air tests from the Louisiana coast reveal human health threats from the oil disaster
The media coverage of the BP oil disaster to date has focused largely on the threats to wildlife, but the latest evaluation of air monitoring data shows a serious threat to human health from airborne chemicals emitted by the ongoing deepwater gusher.

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Today the Louisiana Environmental Action Network released its analysis of air monitoring test results by the Environmental Protection Agency. The EPA's air testing data comes from Venice, a coastal community 75 miles south of New Orleans in Louisiana's Plaquemines Parish.

The findings show that levels of airborne chemicals have far exceeded state standards and what's considered safe for human exposure.

For instance, hydrogen sulfide has been detected at concentrations more than 100 times greater than the level known to cause physical reactions in people. Among the health effects of hydrogen sulfide exposure are eye and respiratory irritation as well as nausea, dizziness, confusion and headache.

The concentration threshold for people to experience physical symptoms from hydrogen sulfide is about 5 to 10 parts per billion. But as recently as last Thursday, the EPA measured levels at 1,000 ppb. The highest levels of airborne hydrogen sulfide measured so far were on May 3, at 1,192 ppb.

Testing data also shows levels of volatile organic chemicals that far exceed Louisiana's own ambient air standards. VOCs cause acute physical health symptoms including eye, skin and respiratory irritation as well as headaches, dizziness, weakness, nausea and confusion.

Louisiana's ambient air standard for the VOC benzene, for example, is 3.76 ppb, while its standard for methylene chloride is 61.25 ppb. Long-term exposure to airborne benzene has been linked to cancer, while the EPA considers methylene chloride a probable carcinogen.

Air testing results show VOC concentrations far above these state standards. On May 6, for example, the EPA measured VOCs at levels of 483 ppb. The highest levels detected to date were on April 30, at 3,084 ppb, following by May 2, at 3,416 ppb.

Here's a chart based on the data from LEAN's analysis, which was done by award-winning analytical chemist Wilma Subra:

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[link to www.southernstudies.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027

Don't forget about all those oil refineries in Texas in Texas city and Port Arthur that are blowing this shit in the air too....
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This fumes problem is probably going to get worse as temps rise going into summer. Volatile chemical outgas rates increase with temps. As oil on surface of gulf absorbs more sunlight, gulf waters will heat up. This will cause any storms entering gulf area to increase in intensity. Hurricane season starts June 1.
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EPA, on the other hand, seems to think everything is OK:

"Air monitoring conducted through May 15, 2010, has found that air quality on the Gulf coastline is normal for this time of year."
[link to www.epa.gov]
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Isn't that what the EPA said about the air in New York after 911.
Now we all know that the air was definately not good quality that has had severe impact on the lives of those that were breathing it in.

Not so sure I would put my faith in the EPA statement.
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all these volcanoes and a oil spill- i think the earths air will get bad not just a few states... i advise people to get gas masks- and some oxygen tanks if you can spare them..... no lie....