Israel to Europe: Stop your citizens from sailing to Gaza with aid

<sound of tumbleweeds>

paranoid, rascist zionists will stop at nothing
to PEVENT Palestinians from extending their roots
DEEPER into THEIR OWN HOMELAND!

Is that a joke?


Stone throwing is NOT the same as 500 pound bombs..

No, they are intended to kill you.

And only you.

Pity they cannot reach that far.

Didn't bother some:

Israeli Roots of Hamas Are Being Exposed
by Dean Andromidas

Speaking in Jerusalem Dec. 20, U.S. Ambassador to Israel Daniel Kurtzer made the connection between the growth of the Islamic fundamentalist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad, and Israel's promotion of the Islamic movement as a counter to the Palestinian nationalist movement. Kurtzer's comments come very close to EIR's own presentation of the evidence of Israel's instrumental role in establishing Hamas, and its ongoing control of that organization.

[...]

The ambassador's comments are an acknowledgment of what any serious Middle East observers knows: Hamas has always been seen as a tool by which Israel could undermine the nationalist movement led by Palestinian Authority President and Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) Chairman Yasser Arafat. Similar statements by Arafat have been dismissed by Israel as "cranky" propaganda. In an interview with the Dec. 11 Italian daily Corriere della Sera, Arafat said, "We are doing everything to stop the violence. But Hamas is a creature of Israel which at the time of Prime Minister [Yitzhak] Shamir [the late 1980s, when Hamas arose], gave them money and more than 700 institutions, among them schools, universities and mosques. Even [former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak] Rabin ended up admitting it, when I charged him with it, in the presence of [Egpytian President Hosni] Mubarak."

To the Italian daily L'Espresso, Arafat laid out the reasons for this support. "Hamas was constituted with the support of Israel. The aim was to create an organization antagonistic to the PLO. They received financing and training from Israel. They have continued to benefit from permits and authorizations, while we have been limited, even to build a tomato factory. Rabin himself defined it as a fatal error. Some collaborationists of Israel are involved in these [terror] attacks,"...
[link to www.larouchepub.com]

America’s Hidden Role in Hamas’s Rise to Power

No one in the mainstream media or government is willing to acknowledge America’s sordid role interfering in Palestinian politics.

Editor’s note: In the U.S., the claim that the actions of Hamas forced Israel to launch a massive assault on the impoverished population of Gaza is almost universally accepted. But, as scholar Stephen Zunes explains below, the picture of Hamas as an organization of wide-eyed radicalism without electoral legitimacy or the support of a significant portion of the Palestinian population is simplistic. In this important piece, Zunes examines the ways in which Israeli and American policy-makers encouraged the rise of the conservative religious group Hamas in an effort to marginalize secular and leftist elements within the Occupied Territories.

The United States bears much of the blame for the ongoing bloodshed in the Gaza Strip and nearby parts of Israel. Indeed, were it not for misguided Israeli and American policies, Hamas would not be in control of the territory in the first place.

Israel initially encouraged the rise of the Palestinian Islamist movement as a counter to the Palestine Liberation Organization, the secular coalition composed of Fatah and various leftist and other nationalist movements. Beginning in the early 1980s, with generous funding from the U.S.-backed family dictatorship in Saudi Arabia, the antecedents of Hamas began to emerge through the establishment of schools, health care clinics, social service organizations and other entities that stressed an ultraconservative interpretation of Islam, which up to that point had not been very common among the Palestinian population. The hope was that if people spent more time praying in mosques, they would be less prone to enlist in left-wing nationalist movements challenging the Israeli occupation.

While supporters of the secular PLO were denied their own media or right to hold political gatherings, the Israeli occupation authorities allowed radical Islamic groups to hold rallies, publish uncensored newspapers and even have their own radio station. For example, in the occupied Palestinian city of Gaza in 1981, Israeli soldiers — who had shown no hesitation in brutally suppressing peaceful pro-PLO demonstrations — stood by when a group of Islamic extremists attacked and burned a PLO-affiliated health clinic in Gaza for offering family-planning services for women... [link to pakalert.wordpress.com]

Good question.

you're absolutely right. 500 pound bombs can kill an awful lot of people while stones thrown at armored soldiers mainly cause injuries or no physical damage at all.

Do not start making death threats.

They are their OWN worst enemy.

Call.

most stupid question ever actually.

they didn't have to declare any statehood because they were living side by side with jews / semitic people in those territorities.

now if a minority then comes and all of a sudden declares statehood on your back and pushes you out of the land that belongs to you as a muslim / arab as much as it belongs to the minority of jewish settlers...

well THAT'S another story......

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But it's ok when they do it to their own people, yes? You remind me of someone who was on here before. Hmm, what was her name? Oh yes SpiralLight I believe.

Oops, we forgot...people in prison don't deserve aid. Isn't that how it works?

okay numbnuts americans if you actually want to learn something you should actually try to listen to mujahid or ef or alli babba. he's right. your little brains have been twisted and you do not even know a basic concept called "REALITY". its a tough one for peabrains. and i can certify that muja is as religious as me. as NIL NOT NEVER! we do care about people and the truth though.

The land that belongs to the "made-up" Palestinians? Silly.

Nobody pushed them out. They left at the urging of the multiple Arab states that assured them that all the Jews would be killed and they could return shortly.

Because they were free and living in peace up until the point the Brits took over and gave the land away that was not theirs to give?

Hmm. Dunno. I am an Anti-Zionist and just answered that question.

You fail Mr. Ziokini Shillunimous...

Epically so.

something like the "made up" jews, hmm? nitwit

lol.

OMG you're right!


How could I not see it?

True, but then - where Israel is concerned, the truth is such a bore..

What is sooooo transparent, is the pro-israel group here insists there was never a palestinian.

They aren't a real people, therefore it is ok to slaughter them and take the land.

Yet, at the same time, they squeal and squawk that israel has a right to exist.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

Really now - get in touch with reality more often.

It´ll do you good.

Here is your prize:

Hi spinhead light!


I'd say it's nice to see you, but I'd be lying..

WTF are you two talking about now?

Go back through this thread and please point out to me where I said it was ok to kill ANYONE.

Looks like you're gonna be in for a real big surprise sweety.

Did you ever hear of a little thing called world war 2? The Arabs backed ol' Uncle Adolph - and lost. Blame the Mufti!

All that under the protective blanket of their Holocaust.

Gotta admire them for that. Noone can do or say anything about Israel or their tactics now without being called an anti-semite.

Brilliant plan - wish I had thought of that.

But the ice under their feet is getting thinner and thinner.