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US Navy Subs Spot Menacing Frozen "OIL BLOB" Lurking in Gulf.....WTF??

 
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I don't get it. Oil is lighter than water, ice is lighter than water, why would the blob of frozen oil and hydrates not float?

I have read other reports talking about some of the oil staying on the ocean floor, how is this physically possible?

Dispersants! Acting as an emulsifier, it bonds oil and water together. It's heavier than water. It's like your dishwashing soap, only more toxic.
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they just made it worse with the dispersants. dayum.
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I don't get it. Oil is lighter than water, ice is lighter than water, why would the blob of frozen oil and hydrates not float?

I have read other reports talking about some of the oil staying on the ocean floor, how is this physically possible?

Sand in the mix and great pressures keep it heavier than water.
 Quoting: Rex Kristos

The water is under the same great pressure.

If sand is "mixing" with it then that might have something to do with it, but if it is spewing out in the vast amounts they are mentioning under pressure from the supply itself, I don't see how sand or mud really, has time to "mix".
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I don't get it. Oil is lighter than water, ice is lighter than water, why would the blob of frozen oil and hydrates not float?

I have read other reports talking about some of the oil staying on the ocean floor, how is this physically possible?


Anyone?
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the dispersants emulsify the oil somewhat which would make it not float
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Can you believe this fucking dunce? laugh

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Must suck for you that most of the hippie-enviro-tards have been right, even before dicktard Cheney or Obama came along. Remember many of us were in the streets screaming and getting put on Bushies' enviro-tard watchlist with "No Blood for Oil". What were you doing, bathing in the shit and calling us traitors and supporting the Patriot Act! Put up or shut up.
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A hurricane would be horrible...lightning hitting a methane pocket would be catastrophic
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I don't get it. Oil is lighter than water, ice is lighter than water, why would the blob of frozen oil and hydrates not float?

I have read other reports talking about some of the oil staying on the ocean floor, how is this physically possible?


Anyone?



the dispersants emulsify the oil somewhat which would make it not float
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That makes more sense than anything else, but are there natural emulsifiers already in place?
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The shortage will also affect the supply of seafood, especially shrimp, to national seafood restaurant chains like Red Lobster and Long John Silver's.


This may be the event that finally turns the blacks against Obama
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Only if it affects the catfish industry.
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From the article. Where is this "evidence". That's kinda important. No?

"There is also evidence that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean sank a drill to a depth of 35,000 feet at the Deep Horizon site some six months ago without the required permits from the federal government."

BP applied for MC Block 252 and 727 at the same time. The court papers filed by Transocean after the MC 252 shit, says that the Deepwater Horizon went to Block 727 first.
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Holy shit that is one big fucking blob.
and what if there is frozen methane hydrate in the blob, be like a kind of traveling bomb.
damned
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Yep, all it'll take is the curent to push it up a slope into shallower waters and.....verydamned
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FFS how long do they think they can keep the cover up going on?!?


Not much longer now....as soon as the first hurricane comes along....



The 2010 Hurricane Season in the Atlantic Ocean will begin on June 1, 2010, and end on November 30, 2010. Atlantic hurricanes affect the eastern and Gulf coasts of the U.S. and the Caribbean nations
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The HAARP people in Alaska are working overtime to "re-direct" potential hurricanes to elsewhere areas beside the Gulf of Mexico. So they're working very hard on it, dude! With a lot of coffee and Red Bulls to drink with.

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The water is under the same great pressure.

If sand is "mixing" with it then that might have something to do with it, but if it is spewing out in the vast amounts they are mentioning under pressure from the supply itself, I don't see how sand or mud really, has time to "mix".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852120

But water does not compress much at all.

The particulates are coming from the reserve itself, not only in the mix but from ablation of the ceiling around the pipe and possibly within the pipe from the velocity of leakage....

All just best guesses....fact remains there's a giant oil blob hydrate bumping around down there fit to pop if it's pushed up slope.
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tar balls, oil pancakes, frozen blobs-wth is going on down there?


lots of lying

no facts

white house is acting like they work for BP
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this reality is worse than the worse B-grade science fiction flic!

so why not trade this sunk reality for one that is everlasting and setting up shop now to manifest right before our eyes... (the Kingdom of God on Earth/Kingdom of heaven)


this oil blob news is my opportunity to share a way that i came to understand to view this event with imagery.

there is an entity unleashed by man's greed in the culmination of man's sin upon this planet. this planet needs to take on a new garment, a new dimensional (with new abilities for man upon Her) Body, and so just like those of us who hope for our new glorified bodies the earth will need hers... which means the earth needs a means by which to end her use of this current body.

the trigger that God pulled on this event is what can be characterized as, that man, in his greed for money, activated the planet earth's self destruct mechanism

the release, by God, of this GAS MONSTER, the BEAST, and attendant with it, the FALSE PROFIT (prophet), the OIL, will ensure a chain reaction that unleashes the unheard of pressures (psi) drawing down even to the center of the earth.


the systematic way in which this beast acts is to escort the oil with itself to burn the coast lands, while the massive gas bubbles burst unleashing furious winds and fireballs of gushing fire, lighting up the oil of death that travels alongside it

i call it the gas n oil monsta

tentacles reaching out, on the surface photos, to the loop current and florida

a dragon on the sea

i even saw the image of a mighty man with horses' hooves unleashing this beast in the gulf satelite photos

whatever this thing like thing is, it will do God's bidding, as it is, indeed, His monsta

its a time marker inviting every intellectual person on earth to encounter God at least one more time

there is a God
is there a God

those two statements are drawn to man's attention
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Yes, this oil gusher is a catastrophie, and Wayne Madsen is a propagandist. My question is what is his angle with all of these unsubstantiated stories he's been putting out?
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I don't get it. Oil is lighter than water, ice is lighter than water, why would the blob of frozen oil and hydrates not float?

I have read other reports talking about some of the oil staying on the ocean floor, how is this physically possible?


My view? Think of a giant fractionating column, several kilometers high from the sea bed to the surface.

The gas and the lighter oil rises faster than the heavier stuff, so the mixture tends to separate out on its way up.

Parts of the column will be frozen where temperature and pressure conditions permit.

But yes, most oil is less dense than water so the column must be rising albeit very slowly as the upper layers tend to hold the lower layers down.

Most of the oil that has leaked so far is yet to surface.

Cheers,
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I don't get it. Oil is lighter than water, ice is lighter than water, why would the blob of frozen oil and hydrates not float?

I have read other reports talking about some of the oil staying on the ocean floor, how is this physically possible?


Anyone?



the dispersants emulsify the oil somewhat which would make it not float

That makes more sense than anything else, but are there natural emulsifiers already in place?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852120



Yes.
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verysad

This is so horrible.
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PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
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I hope everyone takes the time to read every single word of the original post.


:PINDANCE:

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There is also evidence that BP, Halliburton, and Transocean sank a drill to a depth of 35,000 feet at the Deep Horizon site some six months ago without the required permits from the federal government. WMR has learned from U.S. government sources that the drilling at 35,000 feet caused a major catastrophic event that required the firms' oil rig personnel to quickly pull up the drill and close the drill hole.

However, the Deep Horizon re-sank the drill some six months after the unspecified "catastrophe," resulting in another, more destructive chain of events following the explosion that destroyed the rig, killing eleven workers. When the Deep Horizon blew up, WMR has been told it also "blew down," cracking the the sub-seabed pipe that may have been re-drilled to a depth of between 25,000 to 30,000 feet, again, without a government permit.

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Isn't there anyone in the mainstream media with a soul that will just freaking spill the beans during primetime already??? Surely they know the extent of this cover up.
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how can they hope to not be seen as culpable only a few months from now when the whole world will be asking questions?

if it IS an oil/gas volcano, in other words if the explosion initiated under the sea floor or traveled there from above and made a crater opening up the pressurized caBIN the size of mount everest, then that will come out or be figured out by mankind pretty soon

my concern is when the gas that no one talks about ignites
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FFS how long do they think they can keep the cover up going on?!?
i think they may have a script for this, it's all a matter of sticking to it. maybe that's why their stories get so bizarre. trying to stall for time and hold back the questions.
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Stall until what? To where we're to the point that it's every man for himself and no one cares what caused it?
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discovered cover ups = impeachment


Better yet....imprisonment...or worse...


Boy you folks sure are ready to jump into Obama's obvious FUs. Considering the fact that the Mineral Management Service was totally co-opted by corporate oil during the Bush years I assume you want to throw Bush in the same cell or have the same ...or worse.... apply to Bush/Cheney as well as Obama.

Yeah, right.
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Oh no...I say all three are responsible....among others. Many others...
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Wayne Madsen? Really?

Where did he get this information from...sorcha faal ?

LOL!

You guys will believe anything won't you?

Just because you read something on a website doesn't mean it's true, you realize that right?
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Holy shit that is one big fucking blob.
and what if there is frozen methane hydrate in the blob, be like a kind of traveling bomb.
damned
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i wish there were more information on this, the gas would be colorless and odorless, and of course it could ignite
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Yes, this oil gusher is a catastrophie, and Wayne Madsen is a propagandist. My question is what is his angle with all of these unsubstantiated stories he's been putting out?
 Quoting: susano


and here's the problem....what IS substantiated????

If BP and the Soetoro admin would just come clean, we might be in a better position to judge just what is real and what is bullshit....

but we all know that ain't gonna happen until the oil and dispersant chems and god knows what else starts raining on the heads of polite societies of the Southeast...

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So after reading this, I'm thinking

1. Godzilla vs' the Smog Monster
2. HP Lovecraft and Old Gods
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Yes, this oil gusher is a catastrophie, and Wayne Madsen is a propagandist. My question is what is his angle with all of these unsubstantiated stories he's been putting out?
 Quoting: susano



His angle? Is angle is always what his angle is -- inventing crazy stupid nonsense and then reporting it as "mine inside sources tell me" and then posting it on the Internet and then laughing as gullible naïve conspiracy mongers lap it up like hungry dogs
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Yes, this oil gusher is a catastrophie, and Wayne Madsen is a propagandist. My question is what is his angle with all of these unsubstantiated stories he's been putting out?


and here's the problem....what IS substantiated????

If BP and the Soetoro admin would just come clean, we might be in a better position to judge just what is real and what is bullshit.
 Quoting: Dash Riprock



True enough but my point is about Madsen who has been putting out BS for years.
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This is interesting, from July 2009, "Mystery Blob Leaves Scientists Puzzled"

[link to dsc.discovery.com]
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discovered cover ups = impeachment

Better yet....imprisonment...or worse...
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I vote for "worse." But it cannot be reserved for politicians only. Gotta get BP in on the "fun." Gotta get the Coast Guard's Thad W. Allen, too. What's the penalty for treason?
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i wish there were more information on this, the gas would be colorless and odorless, and of course it could ignite
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yeah me too! I hope he invents a bunch of new crap and writes all kinds of stupid nonsense about it! I eagerly await his next piece of totally unsubstantiated, without any outside sources, no photos, no documentation whatsoever, peice! It's going to be awesome

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