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!!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida

 
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Sometimes sand from the Sahara desert in Africa can be found deposited in quite large amounts on cars in northern Europe, often following rain.

So I see no reason why particles from oil spill couldn't be sucked up by cyklons etc and carried with the wind to be deposited elsewhere. It is not impossible at all, IMO.
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Hi all,

Making this quick, don't feel well. About 4:15pm or so eastern, coming back from Tampa, Florida north on Veteran's Expressway...about 7 miles perhaps from SR 54...it sprinkled some gray watery and solid black oil on my car. Thought it was bugs, but so fast did not make sense and windshield wipers just smeared it. Got out of car at store and looked on the paint and solid black dots on my car...I touch? huh? it's wet? it's OIL!!!!!

I had several folks verify it before I sprayed it off and it came off easier than the few love bugs. Two hours later still wet like OIL! nope, not water, smell it, OIL!!!

Anyone on Gulf try not to smear touch it as it is harder to wash off if it happens to you. Bands of storm clouds coming this way from Gulf of Mexico...has not actually rained at least where I have been, just ran through the sprinkle. I smell it now I am inside the house...it's just hard for me to believe also. One can think of a other things...oh maybe it was a vehicle in front of you...there was no vehicles near me at the time. So coincidence oil spill in the gulf and it rains oil on my car? okay believe what you will...but I know my gut and what happened to me, what I saw, others witnessed, I took pics of (sorry don't know how to post them, and it photos could be debateable anyway, take my word or not whichever...but we are in deep hocky doo folks.


I was noticing that big black blotch closer to west coast FL on some images that someone posted yesterday on Disasters board...wondering. Well, maybe wrong board but felt more may see it here and ones that live here. Be careful, if it gets on your clothes, pets, hair, eyes, skin...it won't be so easy to wash off as a well waxed car is.

Not checking this for now, gotta wash out my ears, eyes, nose and lay down...change clothes as I smell it now inside the house on my clothes. I did not smell it while out though and my nose is now desinsitizing, but I feel nauseated. I am really sensitive though, some may not be so much or get the heavy warnings I do.


Thanks for letting me post this bopp, if you want to move it, okay with me I understand...maybe nobody pay attention anyway and I am not super pops here as it is!




~Eve
 Quoting: thisisit 951279


interesting that you noticed a "big black blotch" ...i didn't know Oprah was in Florida!!!
:exciting:
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interesting that you noticed a "big black blotch" ...i didn't know Oprah was in Florida!!!
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Have you had this tested to verify it's from the Gulf spill? lmao
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Sometimes sand from the Sahara desert in Africa can be found deposited in quite large amounts on cars in northern Europe, often following rain.

So I see no reason why particles from oil spill couldn't be sucked up by cyklons etc and carried with the wind to be deposited elsewhere. It is not impossible at all, IMO.
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Exactly!
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Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.
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I'm sure that in a rough ocean storm water is tossed everywhere, including up into the prevailing winds without having to evaporate.

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Ok. Sure it can be picked up by a water spout, but it doesn't evaporate into the clouds and mix with moisture in the clouds.
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This DOES NOT take into consideration OIL, broken down by the use of dispersant...Anyone know about that scenario????
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damned
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Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.

And neither do fish or frogs but they have still been witnessed all over the world falling from rain clouds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 759169

They should know good and damn well it does..
The gas off the oil does evaporates..I never knew so many people are so damn stupid, Not wonder yall support a TERRORIST that has been propped up as a president..
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If an oil slick was burned the ash rises into the clouds. The ash isn't 100% burned or the ash cloud would be a light grey. The ash cloud from burning oil is black because not all of the oil was burned up with the rising smoke.

This smoke merges with regular clouds and casually drifts over Florida. When it precipitates, the oiled ash falls with the rain. Even though the oiled ash won't merge with the water vapors, it is still subjected to the same processes the water vapor is. Usually resulting in the oiled ash falling as rain when the water vapors begin to precipitate.

100% possible!
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So say that there falls allot of this oil rain. Would it be flameable?
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So say that there falls allot of this oil rain. Would it be flameable?
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yes
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I guess this is the confirmation.

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Dude, stop your fear mongering !!!
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dID YOU READ THE ARTICLE DUMBASS?

"Nevertheless, the molecules in some kinds of liquids, like oil for example, are rather large and
well-tangled up and attached to each other. This means that evaporation, if it occurs at all, is
very slow. That is why cooking oil, even though sometimes heated to a very high temperature,
does not evaporate to an appreciable extent."
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Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.

And neither do fish or frogs but they have still been witnessed all over the world falling from rain clouds.

They should know good and damn well it does..
The gas off the oil does evaporates..I never knew so many people are so damn stupid, Not wonder yall support a TERRORIST that has been propped up as a president..
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Ummm, the gas vapor coming off oil IS NOT OIL. IT'S BENZENE.
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Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.


No it won't, but it may have been pulled up through a water cyclone and then dropped miles away....
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.

And neither do fish or frogs but they have still been witnessed all over the world falling from rain clouds.

They should know good and damn well it does..
The gas off the oil does evaporates..I never knew so many people are so damn stupid, Not wonder yall support a TERRORIST that has been propped up as a president..


Ummm, the gas vapor coming off oil IS NOT OIL. IT'S BENZENE.
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It is poisonous, so it doesn't make a difference.
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
It rains frogs and fishes some times. Oil would be much easier to get into a cloud.
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
Sometimes sand from the Sahara desert in Africa can be found deposited in quite large amounts on cars in northern Europe, often following rain.

So I see no reason why particles from oil spill couldn't be sucked up by cyklons etc and carried with the wind to be deposited elsewhere. It is not impossible at all, IMO.
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+1
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Finally FREE OIL FOR ALL !!!
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Yes, theres your silver lining america.
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Finally FREE OIL FOR ALL !!!
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never looked at it that way lol

That said, this is so serious :/
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Thread: Yes - Crude Oil DOES Evaporate
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I just read the other day, that in fact oil does evaporate and that contains a true but hidden danger as so much is entering the atmosphere. And yes, it can and will condensate in the cold moist upper atmosphere. This is simple science for shits sake. If it effects people, it will effect our wildlife throughout fl. I live on the west coast but further down and so far nothing. But I will be getting out in two weeks, hunker down in my north log home and pray. I will never, I repeat never buy from BP again and will encourage all my friends to do likewise. Drilling way beyond what they were allowed in defiance of the law, they should all be jailed. If I spilled a little oil from my boat down here, the coast guard would fine my ass. If I bumped one of the reefs on the east coast with my keel, I would be fined thousands of dollars, yet they will more than likely destroy all the reefs and little will happen. CRAP. I am pissed.
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Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.
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I don't believe that...there has got to be some type of residue or chemicals. Don't believe it. How convenient to them if you believe that.
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drstrangegun posted this at another forum:

"toxic"

This is likely not the oil itself but greasy soot in the clouds getting washed out. The volatiles are long gone and all that's left is soot with some long-chain hydrocarbons stuck to it.

You can try this yourself... find a cheap parrafin candle and let the wick burn long on it, then fill a can (strip the label) with ice cold water. If you hold the can almost touching the wick while it burns, the soot left on the bottom will be greasy-feeling and a real son-of-a- to clean off anything it touches. But chemically, it's soot, slightly broken down paraffin, and condensed paraffin vapor. Oh, and some native water content. The soot is what makes it hard to wash, it's so finely particulate that it gets into the texture of whatever it get on, be it cloth, skin, or paint/metal. It's not particularly harmful unless you're breathing a big concentrated aerosolized cloud of it (black lung) and even that would take a long time, as your lungs are self-cleaning to a point.

The crude itself is toxic due to acid content from the lighter elements trapped in with it, sulfurous/sulfuric acids, heavy metal complexes, nitrate compounds, salts, etc. Not much of that (if any, in some cases) would survive a fire *and* a trip through a cloud, which would do a fantastic job of oxidizing/breaking down anything reactive.

It *will* however be very slightly acidic, to the point that cider vinegar would put it to shame. But, it's still going to be hard on outdoor metal and paint, so when this is all said and done you may want to give the car, house, and patio furniture a good washing with a teaspoon/gallon or so of baking soda in it. And don't scrub too hard, let the soaps do the work of lifting, or you could take... ok, well, a couple of days off the lifetime of your car's paint. It's soot, not rock or railroad dust (which are both an absolute nightmare on fine finished, both being SHARP abrasives and the latter can rust all by itself and stain light painted surfaces).

As far as the plants go, they'll be fine. This is transient on most plant's time scales and at worst the soil will lower in ph almost imperceptibly. No different, if not quite a bit less effect, than having a couple handfuls more pine needles in the mulch than usual (ever notice wild violets *loving* the yard under pine trees? They like acid soils, spreading powdered limestone can be all you need to knock them down appreciably, and grass loves alkali soil...)
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Have you had this tested to verify it's from the Gulf spill? lmao
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dickYeah,better have that tested.It's not our oil!
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
POISON THEIR CHILDREN and if they come to us for help,GIVE THEM MORE POISON and they will think we HEAL them..;They must NOT know of us because then...
THEY will be BAD BAD BAD and...WE are not as MANY as they ARE..;
(something like that...)
if anyone could find that text...
SECRET COVENANT something?Hahum...
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Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.


I don't believe that...there has got to be some type of residue or chemicals. Don't believe it. How convenient to them if you believe that.
 Quoting: Johnny Ringo

SOME OIL CARRYED BY BIRDS...and they probably had swallowed it as well...
last shit before crashing somewhere to die SLOWLY...

btw;those non pollutin HIDDEN TECHNOLOGIES:where are they?
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
If it can rain fish then there is absolutly no doubt in my mind it can rain this oil.
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
It should be interesting to see what happens in the next big storm you have down there. Things could get very messy in Florida. Yuck!
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Re: !!! RED ALERT!!!! it is raining oil in florida
Oil doesn't evaporate into the clouds.
 Quoting: allenk


No, you're right. However, distillates and methyl hydrate does. So, it might not rain crude per se, however, it ain't a good thing.

Go shill somewhere else please. Or take an OChem class.





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