To not confuse, I'm butting in. I think you misunderstand. I think you missed or ignored a post I made earlier. There are millions who have died at the hands of dictators/tyrants trying to MAKE their version of socialism work. Hitler, Mao and Stalin each had 'perfect' systems, when their system failed it was the people's fault, so people were weeded out. People starved because the farming part of Mao's system was flawed. Same under Stalin, millions died of privation because his system failed.

Find that sort of cruelty under any capitalist system, no matter it's faults.

You asked for no debate on health care, but the new law will cause millions to die prematurely unless it is changed, but that will happen beyond our lifetimes.

Sorry I see that more as Megalomania. Hitler was elected, could we say democracy caused his genocide?


>>Hitler was appointed. Your knowledge of history, politics, and economics is remedial at best.

Nice try, I guess he never got a seat in the Reichstag, well he did and then was appointed chancellor.

Man you like to split fucking hairs. Your attempts to belittle me are gay at best.

Hitler after being jailed, realized that he could not take power by force, so he decided to use legal means to garner support. He concentrated on reorganizing his party so that he could win power through elections. he set branches of the Party in Germany, created a youth movement to get support of the youth, and arranged large public movements to attract new members. But, he was never at once democratically elected as a President.

At first, during the 1928 Elections, the Nazi Party was pretty well unheard of, only winning less than 3 per cent of the votes. In July 1932 elections, the Nazis won 37.3 per cent of the votes and became the party with the most number of seats in the Reich stag.

He came to power during 30 January 1933, when Hitler was appointed Chancellor by the President von Hindernburg. Within months, he ended Weimar government and started the Third Reich (Empire). On 2 August 1914, the frail and old President died. Instead for calling up new elections for the post as Presdient of Germany, he forced his way through and took control of Germany as President, in addition to becoming Chancellor of Germany too. Despite being illegal to have two positions at the same time, everyone could only watch in silence. He has now unlimited power and there was no one powerful enough to stop him right now. He had become the Fuhrer or supreme leader of Germany. Every soldier in the Army and official corps had to take a oath of allegiance towards him. Now, no more Weimar, only a solo dictatorship of one leader, one party. Hitler now controls the whole of Germany.