WOW, Take a look at this, New Oil Video - 5-20

mmm

sub can't go that deep unless it sinks

I ain't buying this easy to fake oil rain either

I'm sure someone pointed out odd ships on early day sat images

course they can be faked images anyway

goddamnit - only 'normal' people seeing this stuff from the coastline counts as independent credable witnesses

what are they hiding out there - it's got to be a nuclear sub in trouble

Why is collapsing the well not an option.

Trying to clean it up this was is like trying to clean up an overflowing tolite before making sure it has stopped overflowing.

Its stupid!

Stop the outflow first. THEN CLEAN IT UP..

But no... collapsing the well would mean money would have to be spent on drilling a new hole later. So BP can save a buck they are willing to poison us all...

I have read 5 scientific papers on it. The scientific community is up to 110,000 barrels now.

Exactly. Ever seen the smokestacks at a hyrdothermal vent on the sea floor? You know, the ones where the colonies of bacteria that feeds on sulfur lives on the sea floor???

The rain of hydrates that can plainly be seen also lends the undeniable reality that this wasnt faked.

Stop being a moran.

so where is it ?

and don't quote faked gov owned sat images

coastline sightings along 1000 miles of coastline ???

My spidey senses are telling me they will make it worst-the more they count on MAN MADE solutions it will worsen




all of the sealife is in danger as well as humanity...

they will use nukes...and it will BITTER the waters for all life...as they penalize humanity and try and privatize all waters as though we are the monsters


we are given the planet from the Most High


Those that destroy the earth have been rebuked repeatedly

they are prophesied long ago

they shall be destroyed for their wickedness-but until then many shall die-in the sea and on the land


vipers have always contended with man

bruising our heels perpetually

they just empty a supertanker per day it seems


what was the story about hollywood style footage of the rig explosion ?

supply boat leaving/arriving ?

what crap

There is a HUGE possibility of a seafloor collapse as we speak...

Explosives would almost make that a certainty...

And that would be it, game over...

If the seafloor collapses it would release a massive amount of methane into our atmosphere and choke us out

If the "lake of fire" has not happened yet...in a few weeks I will breach the benzene area to inspect coastline and photo what I find...I am not doing this for fun folks but to document what will pass away-as this catastrophe will change the shoreline for DECADES-no matter if they get it capped or shut down

I hope they do not sneak a nuke in when I pass through-no matter what-I put my confidence in the Most High and those who battle for that and not for wickedness in high places of 'govt' and cWHOREporations

Music to describe our world

At the pressure it appears to be coming out a nuke would very likely collapse the seabed/seafloor and it is GAME OVER...or ignite a chain reaction....FIRE-LOTS OF FIRE



btw folklore and all
fire demons are some of the nastiest
they have tapped a d33p ABYSS

[link to gltrs.grc.nasa.gov]

Methane Hydrates: More Than a Viable Aviation Fuel Feedstock Option

The unabated release of methane (10 to 20 times more detrimental as a greenhouse gas than CO2) sequestered in these hydrates could impact the planet to the point of extinction of life as we understand it. Considering the predicted Earth thermal events, the stability of methane hydrates, and the impact of methane on the environment, the question is not will this methane be released, but when. It is suggested in this report that enhanced efforts be placed on a comprehensive program to locate, assess, and recover the sequestered methane at surface levels to meet the energy demand rather than permitting natural release into the environment

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[link to www.aade.org]

AADE-03-NTCE-04
Methane Hydrate as a Future Energy Source: Framing the Debate

As stated in the Congressional Research Service website:
“Sea floor stability refers to the susceptibility of the sea
floor to collapse and slide as the result of gas hydrate
disassociation. The safety issue refers to petroleum drilling
and production hazards that may occur in association with
gas hydrates in both offshore and onshore environments.
The safety issue affects current oil and gas production as
well as being of concern to possible hydrate development
in the future” (Ref. 2). Some of the ancillary problems
attributable to Methane Hydrate dissociation are also
manifested in conventional oil and gas drilling and
production operations. Seafloor stability therefore
becomes a major hurdle to overcome. In fact, some
believe that many current conventional deepwater surface
operations could result in seafloor instability, and even
seafloor collapse as a result of Methane Hydrate
dissociations.

Several events could occur and cannot be ignored:
§ Uncontrolled gas releases during drilling.
§ Collapse of well casings, and gas leakage to the
surface.
§ Subsidence of general sea floor infrastructures,
including pipelines.
§ Dissociation of Methane Hydrate while cementing due
to exothermic reactions.
§ Dissociation of Methane Hydrate while producing due
to the higher temperature of produced fluids from
deeper horizons.
In the marine environment, gas leakage to the surface
around the outside of the well casing may result in local
sea floor subsidence and the loss of support for
foundations of drilling platforms. The industry has
conducted seminars regarding some of these issues, and
considers some of the safety related issues to be crucial to
the development of conventional deepwater hydrocarbon
resources 9.

Seafloor Stability: This is possibly the greatest hurdle
related to Methane Hydrate development. Reservoir
subsidence is already an enormous problem in
conventional oil and gas production. In some cases, even
very deep reservoir subsidence has been transferred to
the surface. Given that Methane Hydrate provides the
cementation matrix mechanism for very soft muds and
sands, then it follows that recovery of significant amounts
of Methane Hydrate could result not only in subsidence,
but possibly catastrophic reservoir collapse, eventually
manifesting itself at the seabed. In the example of the
Mallik cores, it is interesting to note that the Methane
Hydrate product was indicated as high as 80% by
volume10

At that rate we will be at 1/5 of a billion gallons in a week.

no seafloor is gonna collapse

no one noticed on my thread so I just wondered - from my nuclear sub in trouble theory - what's the psi pressure of typical nuclear warhead detonator vs psi of just the water at that depth if a sub with missiles was slowly but surely crumpling down there ???

this oil stuff is fake

surely when they design sub launched missiles they ensure it can't be triggered by water pressure in a sunken disabled vessel - right ???

You are a retard and hopefully are not breeding...

Do you realize how HUGE of a coverup this would be??

Do you think people in fucking Louisiana are fake too??

My god man get a grip...

Seek medical attention and fast

no offense but most of your country is a cover up

300 million dollars to buy the presidency in the mid 80's


how much now; I forget ?

That a BAD Mamma Jamma

Last Edited by arosebyanyothername on 05/20/2010 07:43 PM

Yes I realize this...

I follow and believe in ALOT of conspiracies...

And there is one here too but not like you guys are saying..

There was a coverup by BP and USCG and our GOVT to hide this as long as possible...I really think they thought they were going to get it stopped before everyone, citizens, non msm media, scientists, professors started getting involved..

Now that they have, they jig is up and its BRITISH Petroleums fault, which it is but our govt had part in it..

Coverups
We were drilling for gas, not oil...
BP was drilling far deeper than the permit allowed them to
The US Govt and media have been bought out by BP and Big Oil long ago
BP was forcing TransOcean to drill faster than they should have been
BP forced TransOcean to keep drilling after knowing they had a broken BOP that was shooting chunks of it back up the drill pipe...
Obama, Mccain, Landreau(LA Senator) are the top BP donation recipients.

There are many coverups but we have scientists out there studying this and testing this...Citizens living in it, non-MSM media verifying this..Its not a nuclear sub, its not fake, its a MASSIVE oil and gas leak and could end life as we know it..

Not everyone in the world can be in on a conspiracy theory..

Mutants Of The Monster

If you believe, I mean really believe
follow me and find your way back through
time
from the power I possess I can see through
the maze
I can see man's progress cause earth's
dyin days
but if we go back to nature and live in
the wilderness
just another animal pure, earth'd live
longer and we'd live less

Why do we need to live to be so old
when we could live free to die young and
bold
man is an animal gone mad
yes he's turned into a monster
our generation is his offspring
yes mutants of the monster

My power is magic
from a wish on a star
yea earning the wish is karmic
to help what good spirits there still are

But when you've been granted the
privilege of bein heard
yea take great care with this power and
watch every word
for when you know someone's listenin
your words can mean a great deal yea
they can be the key to magic thoughts
havin never been revealed

Why do we need to live to be so old
when we could live free to die young and
bold
man is an animal gone mad
yes he's turned into a monster
our generation is his offspring
yes mutants of the monster
We're mutants of the monster

[link to www.cnn.com]

BP: Oil gusher bigger than we estimated

Washington (CNN) -- BP acknowledged Thursday that the gusher of oil pouring from its damaged Gulf of Mexico well is bigger than estimated to date, as new video showed a cloud of crude billowing around its undersea siphon.

Company spokesman Mark Proegler said Thursday that the siphon is now drawing about 5,000 barrels (210,000 gallons) a day up to a ship on the surface. That's as much as government and company officials had estimated the spill was pouring into the Gulf every day for a month. Proegler declined to estimate how much more oil was escaping.

BP America Chairman Lamar McKay said Wednesday the figure used by the oil spill response team had a degree of uncertainty built into it. But figures by independent researchers have run up to many times higher: Steve Wereley, a professor of mechanical engineering at Purdue University, told CNN's "American Morning" that the spill could be as big as 20,000 to 100,000 barrels a day.

And members of Congress released video from the company that showed much more oil pouring out of the damaged well than the siphon was capturing.

"Most of the oil is gushing like mad out there, with just a little bit being siphoned off, which tells you there is a much greater volume than BP said," California Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer, the chairwoman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee, said Thursday.

And Rep. Ed Markey, who leads a House subcommittee investigating the disaster, told reporters, "I think now we are beginning to understand that we cannot trust BP."

"People do not trust the experts any longer," said Markey, D-Massachusetts. "BP has lost all credibility. Now the decisions will have to be made by others, because it is clear that they have been hiding the actual consequences of this spill."

The Obama administration Thursday ordered BP to release all data related to the massive oil spill, telling the company that Americans deserve "nothing less than complete transparency."
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The order, delivered in a letter to British-based BP Group CEO Tony Hayward, demands that BP release sampling and monitoring plans, internal investigation reports and video from the company and its contractors.

"In responding to this oil spill, it is critical that all actions be conducted in a transparent manner, with all data and information related to the spill readily available to the United States Government and the American people," wrote Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Lisa Jackson, the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency.

They concluded, "The public and the United States government are entitled to nothing less than complete transparency in this matter."

The spill began with an April 20 explosion and fire that sank the drill rig Deepwater Horizon two days later. Eleven workers were lost with the rig, which was owned by drilling contractor Transocean and hired by BP.

The resulting slick now threatens the coastal marshes of southeastern Louisiana, where brown, syrupy oil made it past protective booms and into the wetlands near the mouth of the Mississippi River on Wednesday.

Over the weekend, BP inserted a piece of pipe into the larger of the two leak points and began drawing oil from the undersea gusher, located about a mile underwater, up to a ship on the surface. It also has been laying booms out along barrier islands and spraying hundreds of thousands of gallons of chemical dispersants on the surface and near the sources of the leak.

But that element of the response came under new fire as well on Thursday, as the Environmental Protection Agency ordered BP to find a less toxic chemical to use to break up the oil.

The EPA gave the company a day to pick a new substance and three days to start using it instead of the current dispersant, known as Corexit 9500. The chemical has been rated more toxic and less effective than many others on the list of 18 EPA-approved dispersants, according to testimony at a congressional hearing Wednesday.

"Because of its use in unprecedented volumes and because much is unknown about the underwater use of dispersants, EPA wants to ensure BP is using the least toxic product authorized for use," the agency said in a statement announcing the order. "We reserve the right to discontinue the use of this dispersant method if any negative impacts on the environment outweigh the benefits."

Corexit 9500 includes petroleum distillates, propylene glycol and a proprietary organic sulfonic salt, and prolonged contact with it can cause eye or skin irritation, according to the manufacturer's material data safety sheet. The document warns that "repeated or prolonged exposure may irritate the respiratory tract."

But BP says Corexit is biodegradable, has been approved by the EPA and the Coast Guard and is "readily available in the quantities required" by a response plan approved by the government before the spill.

"It has been very effective in causing the oil to form into small, isolated droplets that remain suspended until they're either eaten by naturally occurring microbes, evaporate, are picked up or dissolve," the company said. But it added, "At the same time, we are conducting ongoing assessment of alternative or supplemental dispersant products."

Meanwhile, BP is readying a new attempt to plug the leak for Sunday by injecting a large amount of heavy "mud" -- a fluid used as a lubricant and counterweight in drilling operations -- into the well bore. If that succeeds, the well will be cemented shut, officials have said.

"Everything is being done to make sure that happens," Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, whose department oversees offshore oil drilling, told CNN's "American Morning" Thursday. "We have the best scientists in the world who are overseeing what is going on. So, we are hopeful that it will happen soon."

Salazar said BP, which leased the rig from Transocean, has tried many techniques to stop the leaking. and the government will do all in its power to hold them accountable.

"They're putting a lot of hope on that Sunday," he said. "We'll see if it happens."

Salazar announced Wednesday that he was dividing the Interior Department's Minerals Management Service, which regulates oil exploration, into three divisions. The agency has come under fire since long before the spill, and Salzar said it would be reorganized to separate what he called the conflicting duties of regulating oil companies and collecting royalties from them.

"We inherited here what was a legacy of an agency that essentially was rubber-stamping whatever it was that the oil and gas industry wanted," Salazar said. "We have been on a reform agenda from Day One."

iReport: Track the spill; Share stories

Another Democrat, Louisiana Sen. Mary Landrieu, called on Washington to send more oil revenues sent to Gulf Coast states to help businesses and communities affected by the spill. Landrieu is a strong booster of offshore drilling, but told reporters Thursday the spill has been "a horror movie right now in front of us."

Landrieu said she wants almost 40 percent of oil revenue the federal government collects from leases in the Gulf Coast region to immediately go to the affected states instead of waiting until 2017. While offshore oil is a federal resource, she said, Gulf Coast states bear "almost 100 percent of the risk."

"Wyoming is not at risk of this oil spill. New Mexico is not at risk in this oil spill. You know, Kansas is not at risk in this oil spill," she said. "The states at risk, the economies at risk, are the people of Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama and Florida, and other coastal states, potentially even up the Atlantic."

But IF there was something they wanted to keep a secret NO MATTER WHAT COST, I assure you they would dump all the oil needed to cover it up.

Ever hear of the double take? It is a popular cover up method. They cover up the cover up and let the fake cover up leak. People will believe the fake cover up with a passion.

One more thing, anyone who knows what they are talking about does not spell ALOT. It is A LOT! I know grammar mistakes happen often, including myself. But there is no reason to mistake A LOT. It is a common sign of intelligence level. So learn this today....do NOT spell ALOT again. It is A LOT!

Makes me feel all warm n fuzzy inside..

Last Edited by ScrumpTheTexan on 05/20/2010 08:18 PM

Think this idea would work?

Why don't they just build a mile high round tube the size of the leak is spewing out, and place it over the gushing oil. The oil would flow up the tube all the way to the surface and then can collect it there :)

Whatever...LoL

Yes, I know it is a lot but EVERYONE uses alot. Well all but you

Even Marriam Webster dictionary, which your right, has no intelligence..

[link to www.merriam-webster.com]
alot

Main Entry: lot
Pronunciation: \ˈlät\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hlot; akin to Old High German hlōz
Date: before 12th century

1 : an object used as a counter in determining a question by chance
2 a : the use of lots as a means of deciding something b : the resulting choice
3 a : something that comes to one upon whom a lot has fallen : share b : one's way of life or worldly fate : fortune
4 a : a portion of land b : a measured parcel of land having fixed boundaries and designated on a plot or survey c : a motion-picture studio and its adjoining property d : an establishment for the storage or sale of motor vehicles <a used car lot>
5 a : a number of units of an article, a single article, or a parcel of articles offered as one item (as in an auction sale) b : all the members of a present group, kind, or quantity —usually used with the <sampled the whole lot of desserts>
6 a : a number of associated persons : set <fell in with a rough lot> b : kind, sort
7 : a considerable quantity or extent <a lot of money> <lots of friends>
synonyms see fate

— all over the lot : covering a wide or varied range <received bids all over the lot>

— a lot 1 : to a considerable degree or extent <this is a lot nicer>
2 : often, frequently <runs a lot every day>
3 : lots

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[link to www.wsu.edu]

WRONG:
ALOT

RIGHT:
A LOT


Perhaps this common spelling error began because there does exist in English a word spelled “allot” which is a verb meaning to apportion or grant. The correct form, with “a” and “lot” separated by a space is perhaps not often encountered in print because formal writers usually use other expressions such as “a great deal,” “often,” etc.


You shouldn’t write “alittle” either. It’s “a little.”

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So kiss my ass with the not intelligent...

Many newswriters use alot too..
[link to www.google.com]

i think so to, something evil is going on..i was down there for over 2 weeks just got back 'here' and i was down there on Earth day...
they are covering up something big time..

Don't forget Halliburton is in that mess too. No matter what they say.

Last Edited by SEWINGMUM on 05/20/2010 08:23 PM

Ya, the videos you are now seeing over the past 2 days...

That was the biggest coverup...

For all those saying they are dumping oil from tankers and "this could be done in a aquarium..

There is a live feed 24/7

Go watch and tell me where the fuck they found this amazingly HUGE aquarium..

[link to edition.cnn.com]

And let us guess, you want be able to supply those scientific papers with us? I'm not saying it probably isn't more, but please STFU.