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Lights Out In L.A.?????? Here We Go Folks !!! What about the Electricity California gets from Arizona ??????????

 
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Immigration: An Arizona official asks a good question: If California wants to boycott Arizona over the way it enforces federal law, what about the electricity California gets from there?

The problem with righteous indignation is that when others call you on it and tell you to put your money where your mouth is, it can cause an embarrassing leak in your hot air balloon.

Gary Pierce, a commissioner on the five-member Arizona Corporation Commission, has done just that, calling the bluff of the Los Angeles City Council and Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa.

Pierce wrote Villaraigosa a letter saying in essence that if L.A. didn't need Arizona's business, maybe it didn't need Arizona's power either. Pierce noted Villaraigosa had pledged L.A. would "send a message" by cutting the "resources and ties" they share.

He wanted to know if the mayor also wants to give back the 24% of the electricity it gets from Arizona power plants.

"If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation," Pierce wrote, suggesting the mayor and the council were all hat and no cattle.

Actions have consequences, and so do words.

When you are prepared to enact sanctions on a neighboring state that is not your enemy, sanctions you will not impose on foreign countries who are, you'd better be prepared to go the distance.

At least you should apply your standards consistently and across the board. "I am confident that Arizona's utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands," Pierce added.

As we've noted, this is an economic boycott that Los Angeles is unlikely to employ to a human rights violator like China, and all Arizona is doing is copying policies that exist both in existing federal law and in the L.A. penal code.

Nor is L.A. likely to boycott Mexico, where a drug war rages that threatens to spill over the border and which has cost the live of tens of thousands of Mexicans and dozens of Americans.

Mexican President Felipe Calderon addressed the U.S. Congress on Thursday and continued to lecture America on its immigration policy, forgetting the mote in his own eye.

Until recently, Mexican law made illegal immigration a criminal offense. Anyone arrested for it could be imprisoned for up to two years and then deported. In 2008, it was made a civil violation as in American law, and the statute reads a lot like Arizona's.



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Pierce wrote Villaraigosa a letter saying in essence that if L.A. didn't need Arizona's business, maybe it didn't need Arizona's power either. Pierce noted Villaraigosa had pledged L.A. would "send a message" by cutting the "resources and ties" they share.


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Sounds good. Next time in stead of threats just do it.
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Although the commissioner's sentiment was spot on, he was reminded today that L.A.'s DWP actually OWNS a percentage of the power sources.
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OH MY -WARS HEATING UP.
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If Los Angeles wants to boycott Arizona, it had better get used to reading by candlelight.

That's the message from a member of Arizona's top government utilities agency, who threw down the gauntlet Tuesday in a letter to Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa by threatening to cut off the city's power supply as retribution.

Gary Pierce, a commissioner on the five-member Arizona Corporation Commission, wrote the letter in response to the Los Angeles City Council's decision last week to boycott the Grand Canyon State -- in protest of its immigration law -- by suspending official travel there and ending future contracts with state businesses.

Noting that a quarter of Los Angeles' electricity comes from Arizona power plants, Pierce threatened to pull the plug if the City Council does not reconsider.

"Doggone it -- if you're going to boycott this candy store ... then don't come in for any of it," Pierce told FoxNews.com.

In the letter, he ridiculed Villaraigosa for saying that the point of the boycott was to "send a message" by severing the "resources and ties" they share.

"I received your message; please receive mine. As a statewide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona's electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the 'resources and ties' we share with the city of Los Angeles," Pierce wrote.

"If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation."

Appearing to tap into local frustration in Arizona over the raft of boycotts and threatened boycotts from cities across the country, including Los Angeles, Pierce warned that Arizona companies are willing and ready to fight boycott with boycott.

"I am confident that Arizona's utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands," Pierce wrote. "If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona's economy."

Pierce told FoxNews.com that he was speaking for himself, not the entire commission, though he has the support of at least one other member. But Arizona has some serious leverage over Los Angeles, as well as the rest of California. The state and city get electricity from a nuclear power plant outside Phoenix, as well as from coal-fired power plants in northern Arizona and two giant hydroelectric power generators along the Colorado River.

Despite that, the Los Angeles City Council voted overwhelmingly last week to ban future business with Arizona -- a decision that could cost Arizona millions of dollars in lost contracts.

Los Angeles officials were furious with the Arizona immigration law passed last month and joined local officials in cities across the country in pushing boycotts to register their dismay. Critics say the law will lead to racial profiling and civil rights abuses.

Arizona officials have defended the law, saying the state needed to take its illegal immigration problem into its own hands. Pierce said he's "supportive" of the state's efforts to control the border.

The law requires local law enforcement to try to verify the immigration status of anyone they have contact with whom they suspect of being an illegal immigrant. It empowers them to turn over verified illegal immigrants to federal custody. The legislation explicitly prohibits screening people based solely on race or national origin.




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Sounds good. Next time in stead of threats just do it.
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I once read that almost 60% of power comes from AZ into LA

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Sounds good. Next time in stead of threats just do it.
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chuckle


Could you imagine Disneyland without power ???????????
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Although the commissioner's sentiment was spot on, he was reminded today that L.A.'s DWP actually OWNS a percentage of the power sources.
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Makes one wonder how this will play out... chuckle
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Flip the switch and turn it off. Lets see how the fucktards in California like that....the childish fucksticks
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Flip the switch and turn it off. Lets see how the fucktards in California like that....the childish fucksticks
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I have been waiting for this !!!!

Those Libs called actors will have to use candle light, wash their cloths in their infinity pools, and call on their in the pocket politicians for help.....Love itchuckle
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I'm here in AZ and you know what the can fucking suck it in California. They bitch when we go there for vacation cuz we're 'zonies' (wtf ever). We spend $$ in their state to enjoy the beach,etc.. and now they bitch about us passing a law that mimics the FEDERAL LAW as well as a CA law that they both choose not to enforce. Enjoy your summer full of landslides, fires and earthquakes and NO POWER CA.

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I'm here in AZ and you know what the can fucking suck it in California. They bitch when we go there for vacation cuz we're 'zonies' (wtf ever). We spend $$ in their state to enjoy the beach,etc.. and now they bitch about us passing a law that mimics the FEDERAL LAW as well as a CA law that they both choose not to enforce. Enjoy your summer full of landslides, fires and earthquakes and NO POWER CA.

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I'm here in AZ and you know what the can fucking suck it in California. They bitch when we go there for vacation cuz we're 'zonies' (wtf ever). We spend $$ in their state to enjoy the beach,etc.. and now they bitch about us passing a law that mimics the FEDERAL LAW as well as a CA law that they both choose not to enforce. Enjoy your summer full of landslides, fires and earthquakes and NO POWER CA.

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Hey I live here and I think that Cali is selfish in there demands....
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Immigration: An Arizona official asks a good question: If California wants to boycott Arizona over the way it enforces federal law, what about the electricity California gets from there?

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STUPID posturing.

LA OWNS the plant in Arizona that generates the electricity, AND there are treaties that prevent Arizona from cutting off the supply.
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I live in Los Angeles, and I say do it. Los Angeles is going to hell because of our loud mouth, idiotic, joke of a mayor.
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Immigration: An Arizona official asks a good question: If California wants to boycott Arizona over the way it enforces federal law, what about the electricity California gets from there?



STUPID posturing.

LA OWNS the plant in Arizona that generates the electricity, AND there are treaties that prevent Arizona from cutting off the supply.
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Again........ Who lives in Arizona? Who regulates Arizona? Follow the program !!!!!
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LA needs to wake up and realize they're NOT able to dictate to others what laws to enforce or not.

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I live in Los Angeles, and I say do it. Los Angeles is going to hell because of our loud mouth, idiotic, joke of a mayor.
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I am with you.... Sorry to say !!!! Central Cali here...

Then what? They will want to take the power away from the farmers??????
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Immigration: An Arizona official asks a good question: If California wants to boycott Arizona over the way it enforces federal law, what about the electricity California gets from there?



STUPID posturing.

LA OWNS the plant in Arizona that generates the electricity, AND there are treaties that prevent Arizona from cutting off the supply.
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Treaties? We have treaties between states now?
All fair in love and war...now the pompous asses who live in LA can get a taste of humility when they are facing severe brownouts from lack of power because of their mayors big mouth and some of their rich citizens who think that they have the right to dictate other states laws to them.
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I'm here in AZ and you know what the can fucking suck it in California. They bitch when we go there for vacation cuz we're 'zonies' (wtf ever). We spend $$ in their state to enjoy the beach,etc.. and now they bitch about us passing a law that mimics the FEDERAL LAW as well as a CA law that they both choose not to enforce. Enjoy your summer full of landslides, fires and earthquakes and NO POWER CA.

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I'm from California and agree with you 100%!

It's why I hide up in the mountains away from all these f***ing, dem libtards!

Only bad thing is that some of the S.F. assholes are starting to move up this way. Time to move higher up the mountain where they wouldn't know how to survive!

These cities like L.A., SF and Seattle have no business boycotting any state! I hope Arizona does cut our power. I can live without it comfortably but the city assholes can't.
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STUPID posturing.

LA OWNS the plant in Arizona that generates the electricity, AND there are treaties that prevent Arizona from cutting off the supply.
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All it takes is one employee to throw the wrong switch fucktard !
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If there was a concerted effort of less than a half dozen states, Cali would virtually go dark.
The "national" grid exist only as a framework within which to operate.

State utilities are really the regulators of power distribution.
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Since I'm from California and support the law, I'll be visiting Arizona this summer and will spend some of my hard earned money there. rockon
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I'm here in AZ and you know what the can fucking suck it in California. They bitch when we go there for vacation cuz we're 'zonies' (wtf ever). We spend $$ in their state to enjoy the beach,etc.. and now they bitch about us passing a law that mimics the FEDERAL LAW as well as a CA law that they both choose not to enforce. Enjoy your summer full of landslides, fires and earthquakes and NO POWER CA.

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I'm from California and agree with you 100%!

It's why I hide up in the mountains away from all these f***ing, dem libtards!

Only bad thing is that some of the S.F. assholes are starting to move up this way. Time to move higher up the mountain where they wouldn't know how to survive!

These cities like L.A., SF and Seattle have no business boycotting any state! I hope Arizona does cut our power. I can live without it comfortably but the city assholes can't.
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Agreed!!


Maybe cutting off the LA big shots will teach them some lessons..... My fear is that they will have the money to pull from us in Central Cali... We are self sufficient.
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Ok, well let LA be a bunch of FAGS and boycott Arizona! So what? We can all start giving our new business to Arizona. And furthermore, I think we should ALL BOYCOTT LA in all ways possible!!!! Then watch the "dick" shrivel,lol.
Suck on that LA!!!
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Since I'm from California and support the law, I'll be visiting Arizona this summer and will spend some of my hard earned money there. rockon
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I plan to also - Grand Canyon, Flagstaff, Prescott and Sedona are all nice. I sure as heck won't be going to L.A., San Fran. or Seattle ever.
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Ok, well let LA be a bunch of FAGS and boycott Arizona! So what? We can all start giving our new business to Arizona. And furthermore, I think we should ALL BOYCOTT LA in all ways possible!!!! Then watch the "dick" shrivel,lol.
Suck on that LA!!!
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Yes, but don't forget San Francisco. They started it. And screw Seattle also! Boycott products and busnesses from all of them.
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Ok, well let LA be a bunch of FAGS and boycott Arizona! So what? We can all start giving our new business to Arizona. And furthermore, I think we should ALL BOYCOTT LA in all ways possible!!!! Then watch the "dick" shrivel,lol.
Suck on that LA!!!
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Yes, but don't forget San Francisco. They started it. And screw Seattle also! Boycott products and busnesses from all of them.
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Agreed my friend! Btw, I noticed that mayor has a spanish sounding name? Has anyone checked his BC to see if he is a citizen of our country?! lol! Hang-'em high!

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