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FEDERAL IMMIGRATION (ICE) WILL NOT WORK WITH ARIZONA ON IMMIGRATION WTF?????????

 
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ADC INSTITUTIONAL CAPACITY & COMMITTED POPULATION, December 31, 2009

Arizona State Prison. Contracted In-State Private Prisons. Provisional Contracted Out-of-State Private Prisons and AZ County Jails.

TOTALS....
Total operating capacity 41,426
Total inmate population 40,544

[link to www.azcorrections.gov]

Less than 1000 beds to enforce the law.

The governor is bullshitting....


They'll build, it brings jobs to the legals.

Get over it.


Like I said, productive labor arrested, equals production down; bldg prisons and incarceration expenses up.

EQUALS Whopping tax increase....

It wont happen. The governor has so much shit coming out her office it must be chin deep by now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976830

Something is going to happen. She fully has the support of the people behind her and she's got a backbone and balls, perhaps AZ will just directly deport them. Arpaio has done it before and we don't build prisons, we put up fucking tents.
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ADC INSTITUTIONAL CAPACITY & COMMITTED POPULATION, December 31, 2009

Arizona State Prison. Contracted In-State Private Prisons. Provisional Contracted Out-of-State Private Prisons and AZ County Jails.

TOTALS....
Total operating capacity 41,426
Total inmate population 40,544

[link to www.azcorrections.gov]

Less than 1000 beds to enforce the law.

The governor is bullshitting....


They'll build, it brings jobs to the legals.

Get over it.


Like I said, productive labor arrested, equals production down; bldg prisons and incarceration expenses up.

EQUALS Whopping tax increase....

It wont happen. The governor has so much shit coming out her office it must be chin deep by now...

Something is going to happen. She fully has the support of the people behind her and she's got a backbone and balls, perhaps AZ will just directly deport them. Arpaio has done it before and we don't build prisons, we put up fucking tents.
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Dumb and dumber.
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ADC INSTITUTIONAL CAPACITY & COMMITTED POPULATION, December 31, 2009

Arizona State Prison. Contracted In-State Private Prisons. Provisional Contracted Out-of-State Private Prisons and AZ County Jails.

TOTALS....
Total operating capacity 41,426
Total inmate population 40,544

[link to www.azcorrections.gov]

Less than 1000 beds to enforce the law.

The governor is bullshitting....


They'll build, it brings jobs to the legals.

Get over it.


Like I said, productive labor arrested, equals production down; bldg prisons and incarceration expenses up.

EQUALS Whopping tax increase....

It wont happen. The governor has so much shit coming out her office it must be chin deep by now...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976830

Quite honestly, the people in Arizona do not care whether a Mexican thinks it's shit. They are determined to proceed as they have decided. They know it's a fight and it involves a price.

They'll be happy to have people who talk like you eat their shit.
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ADC INSTITUTIONAL CAPACITY & COMMITTED POPULATION, December 31, 2009

Arizona State Prison. Contracted In-State Private Prisons. Provisional Contracted Out-of-State Private Prisons and AZ County Jails.

TOTALS....
Total operating capacity 41,426
Total inmate population 40,544

[link to www.azcorrections.gov]

Less than 1000 beds to enforce the law.

The governor is bullshitting....


They'll build, it brings jobs to the legals.

Get over it.


Like I said, productive labor arrested, equals production down; bldg prisons and incarceration expenses up.

EQUALS Whopping tax increase....

It wont happen. The governor has so much shit coming out her office it must be chin deep by now...

Quite honestly, the people in Arizona do not care whether a Mexican thinks it's shit. They are determined to proceed as they have decided. They know it's a fight and it involves a price.

They'll be happy to have people who talk like you eat their shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 913496


Ahh! Listen to the desperation. It is so enjoyable watching your delusions fall flat. Big fat know nothing blabber mouths. It was and is all so predictable given the size of your tiny brain pan to see the bigger picture. I warned you, I told you, and now you see?, little 'ol Mexico is right again.
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federal is only responsible for the safety of washington d.c. we just pay the taxes to them, dont you know.
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It's great to see the lying, America-hating Mexicans like AC 976830 squirming in impotent rage. The jig is up, Pedro! You aren't going to get what you want. The crooked, lying illegal aliens are being defeated.
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It's great to see the lying, America-hating Mexicans like AC 976830 squirming in impotent rage. The jig is up, Pedro! You aren't going to get what you want. The crooked, lying illegal aliens are being defeated.
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I dont have a preference one way or the other. The Mx come home, the Mx stay. However, I see absolute frustration from Americans manifesting itself in pathetic and childish aggression, gently egged on by psychopathic killers in your midsts. You are powerless to do anything and manipulated and lied to by a whole host of special interests. What a shame that all that energy is so wasted on one emotional burnout after another, month after month, one disconnected issue after another...

Meanwhile I am as fresh as a puppy dog: I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility. Let's see this comprehensive reform bill dealing with all aspects of an incredibly complicated issue.

I cant wait...
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It's great to see the lying, America-hating Mexicans like AC 976830 squirming in impotent rage. The jig is up, Pedro! You aren't going to get what you want. The crooked, lying illegal aliens are being defeated.


I dont have a preference one way or the other. The Mx come home, the Mx stay. However, I see absolute frustration from Americans manifesting itself in pathetic and childish aggression, gently egged on by psychopathic killers in your midsts. You are powerless to do anything and manipulated and lied to by a whole host of special interests. What a shame that all that energy is so wasted on one emotional burnout after another, month after month, one disconnected issue after another...

Meanwhile I am as fresh as a puppy dog: I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility. Let's see this comprehensive reform bill dealing with all aspects of an incredibly complicated issue.

I cant wait...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976830

dont you think that you should be more interested in what bills are being passed in mexico. why are you hooting for illegal mexican nationals in our country?
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It's great to see the lying, America-hating Mexicans like AC 976830 squirming in impotent rage. The jig is up, Pedro! You aren't going to get what you want. The crooked, lying illegal aliens are being defeated.


I dont have a preference one way or the other. The Mx come home, the Mx stay. However, I see absolute frustration from Americans manifesting itself in pathetic and childish aggression, gently egged on by psychopathic killers in your midsts. You are powerless to do anything and manipulated and lied to by a whole host of special interests. What a shame that all that energy is so wasted on one emotional burnout after another, month after month, one disconnected issue after another...

Meanwhile I am as fresh as a puppy dog: I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility. Let's see this comprehensive reform bill dealing with all aspects of an incredibly complicated issue.

I cant wait...

dont you think that you should be more interested in what bills are being passed in mexico. why are you hooting for illegal mexican nationals in our country?
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I'm hooting for a comprehensive solution to a serious bilateral issue. Nothing more.
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It's great to see the lying, America-hating Mexicans like AC 976830 squirming in impotent rage. The jig is up, Pedro! You aren't going to get what you want. The crooked, lying illegal aliens are being defeated.


I dont have a preference one way or the other. The Mx come home, the Mx stay. However, I see absolute frustration from Americans manifesting itself in pathetic and childish aggression, gently egged on by psychopathic killers in your midsts. You are powerless to do anything and manipulated and lied to by a whole host of special interests. What a shame that all that energy is so wasted on one emotional burnout after another, month after month, one disconnected issue after another...

Meanwhile I am as fresh as a puppy dog: I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility. Let's see this comprehensive reform bill dealing with all aspects of an incredibly complicated issue.

I cant wait...

dont you think that you should be more interested in what bills are being passed in mexico. why are you hooting for illegal mexican nationals in our country?

why are you waiting. it is not your country, like it or not.
I'm hooting for a comprehensive solution to a serious bilateral issue. Nothing more.
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... LOL, voting has become a big fucking joke at this point.
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Agree. Arizona has the right idea. Through its actions many fewer anchor babies will be born in Arizona.

Other states see that and get the idea.
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so you work for that lateral communistion?
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I'm hooting for a comprehensive solution to a serious bilateral issue. Nothing more.
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You have all these big ideas for us. I have a very simple little idea. Enforce our laws.

That will be an answer to what you call a "serious bilateral issue." You may not like it, I suspect, but it's the legal answer.
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only serious issue is mexican invasion and we are not going to ask mexico if we may stop it.
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I'm hooting for a comprehensive solution to a serious bilateral issue. Nothing more.

You have all these big ideas for us. I have a very simple little idea. Enforce our laws.

That will be an answer to what you call a "serious bilateral issue." You may not like it, I suspect, but it's the legal answer.
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You live in a dream world disconnected from the realities of the issue. Pretty soon they will be presented to you piece by piece and we'll be able to discuss them, piece by piece. It's the only way...
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only serious issue is mexican invasion and we are not going to ask mexico if we may stop it.
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It's a bilateral issue. What can I say? There is a whole array of relevant cross border trade issues that are intimately involved.
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The entire Immigration Reform debacle that is being continually pushed by the scumbag CongressCritters is really motivated by a beauroc-RAT-ic mindset, a greedy and lazy combination of attitudes that inflicts the mediocre person who wants to take the lazy way out, and yet wants all of the goodies that come from productive activities and hard work. The beauroc-RATS and Polly-ticians are terrified that the gravy train in going to run out before they get to the front of the line!!! They think the Mexican illegals will be their meal ticket, and keep the gravy train going til they can pop off the top of the pyramid RICH, RICH,RICH!

The "Public Servants" that make up such a large percentage of our "workforce" nowadays, are mostly non-essential busy-workers (quasi-parasites), who for several decades through the machinations of Unions, and Polly-ticians' screaming and scheming duplicity and complicity have been handed salaries that are roughly twice what comparable skill level employees in the private sector are being paid. And they also have fringe benefits way beyond any offered in the private sector.

It's a giant racket, a scam, whereby the Unions fund the political campaigns, and a reciprocal package of "handouts" are heaped upon the governmental workers. We pay their outrageous compensation packages through taxes, inflation, unsustainable debt obligations, and decreased productivity due to an ever burgeoning set of laws to comply with, more useless paperwork to fill out and file, more beaurocRAT-ic hoops to jump through at every step of our business cycles.

The entrepreneur, the small businessman, the employer that sustains the bulk of our Nations' employment, is right up against the limit of what is endurable. As more and more are throwing in the towel, closing down their businesses, the unemployment rises, the foreclosure rate skyrockets, Real Estate values plunge, the property tax receipts go way down (and many are left unpaid). It's a dwindling spiral, as America is being flushed down the drain of socialist-fascist-communist mediocrity, where the incentive to excel is gone and excellence is actually being punished instead of rewarded. In societies, and in economics that which is punished is minimized, and that which is rewarded is increased!!! So, laziness and mediocrity is increasing, and excellence is plunging!!! It's no mystery as to why!!!

So, what we are seeing more and more of in the world is people doing just enough to get by, just enough to not get fired, or to not lose their apartment/car/house etc..

The REAL reason why the Beauroc-RATS and Polly-ticians (parrots) are so rabidly pursuing comprehensive immigration reform is because they know that all of the "Entitlement Programs" are nothing more than elaborate, legally mandated Ponzi-schemes/Pyramid-schemes, whereby the "Public Servants" get largesse/ monthly heists at the public trough via pensions, health care, insurance etc., etc. for the rest of not only their life, but the life of their wife/ life-partner etc. The salaries are obscene, the benefits are out of all reasonableness, pensions at 80-100% of their full time income at the time of retirement. (I know cops and teachers personally who are retiring after 20 years of employment and who are getting paid more net than some MD's I know. $150,000 per year for a cop). The scam is that their last year before retirement, they work tons of overtime(80 hrs per week) at overtime hourly wages to lock-in huge salaries for the rest of their lives. These Politico-scammers see the low birth rates of Anglo American citizens, look at the birth rates of the primarily Catholic Hispanic population, and have concluded that to keep the Pyramid going long enough for them to collect their "deserved" publicly-funded "Lotto Ticket" winning number, they need to open the floodgates to millions of worker bees who are just entering the Ponzi-Game, to work, breed, and consume. Otherwise it is an unsupportable system. Growth is imperative for the pyramid to continue, and without immigration we aren't growing.

As a footnote to this truth.....there is ZERO/ZIP/NADA in the "lockbox" that is called "Social Security", "Medicare" etc., they are all un-funded liability (debt). There are no funds re most all of these programs. Current money comes in, admin fees incurred, and that very same money is then sent out (a perverted version of Robin Hood, where they rob from the poor to give to the poor, and they keep the interest and the use of the poor people’s money for 40-50 years). It should be criminal. If there aren't more people coming onboard the Ponzi scheme than there are scooping up the goodies, then the whole thing collapses!!!!! That is the FEAR, the motivation that drives these scumbags to go against the wishes of the populace as they have been doing. They need more slaves to keep it going......to pay for their luxurious retirement. Easy street on the backs of the hard working, underpaid private sector employees.

Let's not allow them to get away with it any longer!!! Vote all the colluding politicians out of office. Cut the govt. workers salaries, including "benefit packages/fringe benefits", and cut them all to below private sector levels to make up for the job security they enjoy, and also undo all of the obscene pensions to a level comparable with private sector payments re the same "pay-grade". It is totally unsupportable, and we don't want to sacrifice our sovereignty, our culture, our language, our values, and our freedoms just so the entitlements can flow another few years until the Ponzi-scheme implodes anyway.
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Also, what does the Mexican government do with, illegal-alien invaders from their southern border, all the Central Americans and South Americans??? I'll tell you what they do, they throw the book at them, arrest them and deport them enmasse!!!
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had to go out glad to see the pin on this. this is a out rage john moeton must go, he insluts our colective ntelligence as a people these men and women and iam not talking about the ones we see iam talking about the ones behind the scenes we dont see must go also, long live the republic it was born from a dream lets not let them turn it in to a nightmare we owe it the brave men and women who have died in our serves to make and keep us free as a people, as american people lets not be the first generations to shame our country in alowing an out rage of this magnatude that been going on for a long time now when laws are not upheld there is no law.
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dayum...I hope that was as hard for you to type as it was for me to read!
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I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility.
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The will of the majority is "nonsensical opposition", according to a Mexican. Interesting.
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Give them a free ride to Washington DC in large vans. Drop them there and go home to AZ. Let WDC deal with them from that point onwards.



Actually, that's not a bad idea.

Give all the illegals a one way plane ticket to Hawaii. Then the feds will be FORCED to deal with them.


Yep, plane or bus tickets will cost AZ less in the long run.

Ship them to the Capitol, though. Let them shit on the White House lawn and throw their discarded clothes and backpacks all over DC. See how DC likes it.
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That'll make the kenyan illegal feel right at home...
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I'm worried that all this hate towards illegal immigrants will push them to the edge. Once a Mexican, illegal or not, attacks somebody after the pressure has been built up enough there will be overwhelming public demand, due to mass media influence, and governmental support against all Mexican Americans illegal or not...

Just look at WWII... our President at the time provoked and lured the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. Japanese Americans rights were completed stomped all over... please people, do not buy in to the hype. I understand illegal immigration is a problem but it must be dealt with in civil fashion... these are HUMAN BEINGS the same as all of us, regardless of their legality. Don't let hate and anger consume you!

Focus your energy against those who DECEIVE and CONTROL us!
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I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility.
The will of the majority is "nonsensical opposition", according to a Mexican. Interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976466


Yeah, you decide that, do you? Tell me what does the majority think about farm subsidies for export, funding the drug war in Mexico, or the NAFTA trade agreement? Come on,,, hurry I am waiting for this well informed majority that isnt being manipulated by a bunch of party hacks...
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I'm worried that all this hate towards illegal immigrants will push them to the edge. Once a Mexican, illegal or not, attacks somebody after the pressure has been built up enough there will be overwhelming public demand, due to mass media influence, and governmental support against all Mexican Americans illegal or not...

Just look at WWII... our President at the time provoked and lured the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. Japanese Americans rights were completed stomped all over... please people, do not buy in to the hype. I understand illegal immigration is a problem but it must be dealt with in civil fashion... these are HUMAN BEINGS the same as all of us, regardless of their legality. Don't let hate and anger consume you!

Focus your energy against those who DECEIVE and CONTROL us!
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The reform bill will come into focus. This is all transitory phase being waged on TV. We are reading the script, memorizing the lines; where everyone knows their part in the play. Soon the curtain will rise...
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I'm hooting for a comprehensive solution to a serious bilateral issue. Nothing more.

You have all these big ideas for us. I have a very simple little idea. Enforce our laws.

That will be an answer to what you call a "serious bilateral issue." You may not like it, I suspect, but it's the legal answer.


You live in a dream world disconnected from the realities of the issue. Pretty soon they will be presented to you piece by piece and we'll be able to discuss them, piece by piece. It's the only way...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976830

The suspense is killing me. Please reveal what these realities are, all this complex stuff that's necessarily interrelated according to you, and let's discuss all the pieces together.

Otherwise, if you want to go piece by piece, the answer to the immigration piece is very simple. Enforce our laws.
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I'm worried that all this hate towards illegal immigrants will push them to the edge. Once a Mexican, illegal or not, attacks somebody after the pressure has been built up enough there will be overwhelming public demand, due to mass media influence, and governmental support against all Mexican Americans illegal or not...

Just look at WWII... our President at the time provoked and lured the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. Japanese Americans rights were completed stomped all over... please people, do not buy in to the hype. I understand illegal immigration is a problem but it must be dealt with in civil fashion... these are HUMAN BEINGS the same as all of us, regardless of their legality. Don't let hate and anger consume you!

Focus your energy against those who DECEIVE and CONTROL us!


The reform bill will come into focus. This is all transitory phase being waged on TV. We are reading the script, memorizing the lines; where everyone knows their part in the play. Soon the curtain will rise...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976830

thats easy for you to say you have not had your wages supressed inscoureing outscouresing have not watched your jobs to china do dont think your going to get away withit scott free its time to pay the piper when one of our women draws aline in the sand and said help and none came it made a lot of americans angry we have a thing here called democrcey and freedom of speech now go away troll your mamceta is calling you
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I want to see the meat and potatoes of the immigration reform bill, and tune out all nonsensical opposition, that has frankly lost all credibility.
The will of the majority is "nonsensical opposition", according to a Mexican. Interesting.


Yeah, you decide that, do you? Tell me what does the majority think about farm subsidies for export, funding the drug war in Mexico, or the NAFTA trade agreement? Come on,,, hurry I am waiting for this well informed majority that isnt being manipulated by a bunch of party hacks...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976830

The majority is probably mixed on farm subsidies (we want to support our farmers but not to raise our food prices plus pay for the privilege in taxes.) I would be against the farm subsidies, which should make Mexicans and other farmers happy.

Funding the drug war in Mexico? Come on of course we don't want to do that. Please please help us break the hold that the drug cartels have in the USA! We know that drug money has power here, and we don't like it here any more than you like it there in Mexico.

The majority hates NAFTA. We'd dump it in a second if we could get the traction in Washington. Maybe we will now, you're giving me hope. (Hehe you never expected to do that for me did you?)

I think we can work together on this to make both countries better for their citizens. We can be good neighbors. Our poet Robert Frost had a good expression about that: "Good fences make good neighbors."
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I'm worried that all this hate towards illegal immigrants will push them to the edge. Once a Mexican, illegal or not, attacks somebody after the pressure has been built up enough there will be overwhelming public demand, due to mass media influence, and governmental support against all Mexican Americans illegal or not...

Just look at WWII... our President at the time provoked and lured the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor. Japanese Americans rights were completed stomped all over... please people, do not buy in to the hype. I understand illegal immigration is a problem but it must be dealt with in civil fashion... these are HUMAN BEINGS the same as all of us, regardless of their legality. Don't let hate and anger consume you!

Focus your energy against those who DECEIVE and CONTROL us!


The reform bill will come into focus. This is all transitory phase being waged on TV. We are reading the script, memorizing the lines; where everyone knows their part in the play. Soon the curtain will rise...

thats easy for you to say you have not had your wages supressed inscoureing outscouresing have not watched your jobs to china do dont think your going to get away withit scott free its time to pay the piper when one of our women draws aline in the sand and said help and none came it made a lot of americans angry we have a thing here called democrcey and freedom of speech now go away troll your mamceta is calling you
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You have a right to be upset over this. But don't be angry at the illegals which have taken your jobs. Be angry at those in control who allow it to happen in an obvious attempt at causing hate towards these innocent people who are fleeing their HOMELAND because of corruption and wars which our government funds.

Focus your energy against those who DECEIVE and CONTROL ALL OF US!
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Re: FEDERAL IMMIGRATION (ICE) WILL NOT WORK WITH ARIZONA ON IMMIGRATION WTF?????????
Good try Mexico but that dog doesn't bark either.

Poll from today:

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Does the U.S., with its demand for narcotics and supply of guns, bear some fault in propping up Mexican drug trade, as the president of Mexico suggested to Congress Thursday?
Thanks for your vote.

Response Percent Votes

Yes 15% 2019 votes
No 82% 10947 votes
Undecided 1% 139 votes
Other 1% 140 votes
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... causing hate towards these innocent people who are fleeing their HOMELAND because of corruption and wars which our government funds.

Focus your energy against those who DECEIVE and CONTROL ALL OF US!
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I don't hate them. I like them. They are my fellow human beings. They just don't belong here, so I want to move them back where they belong.

Others try to call that hate. They are lying. It is not hate.

By all means, let's get rid of our government's funding of corruption on both sides of the border. Let's reform the right thing.

Our immigration laws are not what needs reform.

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