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There is some info on Cisco Wheeler as well as Jose Delgado
who is mentioned in your sig on this page

[link to www.xs4all.nl]

btw this link is a little more flashy now than I remember it

funny how Springmeier is at the top. I am not saying that what he says is not true..but..what makes me suspicious is that he tries to convert everyone to Christianity which is just another form of Luciferianism..maybe even it's highest form. This is not surprising though


I found the link as I remember it.
notice the address is the same but the content is different

[link to www.xs4all.nl]


checkin those links out peace

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Wake up and spread the truth, the word as the sword


There is some info on Cisco Wheeler as well as Jose Delgado
who is mentioned in your sig on this page

[link to www.xs4all.nl]

btw this link is a little more flashy now than I remember it

funny how Springmeier is at the top. I am not saying that what he says is not true..but..what makes me suspicious is that he tries to convert everyone to Christianity which is just another form of Luciferianism..maybe even it's highest form. This is not surprising though
 Quoting: FactCheck


Don't you know the difference between Jesus' Teaching, which Christianity is based on and Luciferianism?

I think it is very important to know the difference between them and especially at this time.

From all my studies, I see it now sort of like this:

Lucifer was an archangel who projected himself from Heaven.
He had never seen God, and assumed after a a long while that since he was considered such a brilliant archangel and had not seen God, perhaps God did not exist.

And he stopped cooperating with the Order of the Universe as God created it.
He decided instead to make his own order, and become the god of his order.
And that's become known as the "Lucifer Rebellion".
Freemasonry follows Lucifer as their god.

Many followed Lucifer, and we are very likely on the world where Lucifer rules, and where those that followed him have perhaps been reincarnating countless lives because they have not learned how to clear and free their minds of all that keeps them attached to this physical world which their ego tries to keep them a prisoner of.

The ego is quite likely just about a direct line to Lucifer, and it is a part of our mind. So it is very hard to free our thinking from its grip so that we can move on from this world, and move on our way to the Higher Spiritual Levels where we really belong, and from where we projected ourselves long ago when we also decided to follow Lucifer.

God knew of our difficulties of trying to free ourselves from this world, so that we could find our way back to Him.
So He sent Jesus here to teach us the way to discipline our minds so that we could free ourselves finally from this world of conflicts and fear.

Jesus was sent to be our Role Model so that those who REALLY follow His Teaching will find our way back to God.
That is the essence of Christianity.

God had sent many others at different times to do what Jesus has done.
But this world, and the EGO, has such a grip on our thinking, that there has been little success in learning how to free ourselves from it, so that we don't have to reincarnate back here over and over.

This world is now run by and mostly controlled by Freemasons/Luciferians, and they know it and want to keep it that way.
Many follow them for the "gifts" they get from them.

For many years the Freemasons have been busy infiltrating the Catholic Church, because it considered it its most powerful ENEMY.

When Pope John Paul 1, was just elected pope in 1978 his assistant told him that many of the Cardinals who voted for him were in fact Freemasons.

He was shocked, and said they had to be 'Excommunicated' from the Roman Catholic Church, because the RCC has known for many years that Freemasons are followers of LUCIFER, and not God, and it was forbidden for one to be a Catholic and also a Freemason.
They had a law against that.
Its a contradiction in belief.

So they poisoned that Pope and he died after being pope only 33days.
Which is an important number to Freemasons.

And it is very likely that church is now totally under the Freemason's control, although there are certainly many good priests and nuns doing their best to serve as Jesus' Teachings advise them to, and also there are many Catholics who follow Jesus' Teaching and have no idea of 'who' the leaders of their church really follow or what they really believe.
They don't know their church has be infiltrated by followers of Lucifer.

I hope this can clear up the difference between the two beliefs.

The following article explains it much better than I have.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]






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Holy, holy,holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.Praise the one who gives you peace beyond all understanding Yes that scripture still sounds good !
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Wake up and spread the truth, the word as the sword


There is some info on Cisco Wheeler as well as Jose Delgado
who is mentioned in your sig on this page

[link to www.xs4all.nl]

btw this link is a little more flashy now than I remember it

funny how Springmeier is at the top. I am not saying that what he says is not true..but..what makes me suspicious is that he tries to convert everyone to Christianity which is just another form of Luciferianism..maybe even it's highest form. This is not surprising though


Don't you know the difference between Jesus' Teaching, which Christianity is based on and Luciferianism?

I think it is very important to know the difference between them and especially at this time.

From all my studies, I see it now sort of like this:

Lucifer was an archangel who projected himself from Heaven.
He had never seen God, and assumed after a a long while that since he was considered such a brilliant archangel and had not seen God, perhaps God did not exist.

And he stopped cooperating with the Order of the Universe as God created it.
He decided instead to make his own order, and become the god of his order.
And that's become known as the "Lucifer Rebellion".
Freemasonry follows Lucifer as their god.

Many followed Lucifer, and we are very likely on the world where Lucifer rules, and where those that followed him have perhaps been reincarnating countless lives because they have not learned how to clear and free their minds of all that keeps them attached to this physical world which their ego tries to keep them a prisoner of.

The ego is quite likely just about a direct line to Lucifer, and it is a part of our mind. So it is very hard to free our thinking from its grip so that we can move on from this world, and move on our way to the Higher Spiritual Levels where we really belong, and from where we projected ourselves long ago when we also decided to follow Lucifer.

God knew of our difficulties of trying to free ourselves from this world, so that we could find our way back to Him.
So He sent Jesus here to teach us the way to discipline our minds so that we could free ourselves finally from this world of conflicts and fear.

Jesus was sent to be our Role Model so that those who REALLY follow His Teaching will find our way back to God.
That is the essence of Christianity.

God had sent many others at different times to do what Jesus has done.
But this world, and the EGO, has such a grip on our thinking, that there has been little success in learning how to free ourselves from it, so that we don't have to reincarnate back here over and over.

This world is now run by and mostly controlled by Freemasons/Luciferians, and they know it and want to keep it that way.
Many follow them for the "gifts" they get from them.

For many years the Freemasons have been busy infiltrating the Catholic Church, because it considered it its most powerful ENEMY.

When Pope John Paul 1, was just elected pope in 1978 his assistant told him that many of the Cardinals who voted for him were in fact Freemasons.

He was shocked, and said they had to be 'Excommunicated' from the Roman Catholic Church, because the RCC has known for many years that Freemasons are followers of LUCIFER, and not God, and it was forbidden for one to be a Catholic and also a Freemason.
They had a law against that.
Its a contradiction in belief.

So they poisoned that Pope and he died after being pope only 33days.
Which is an important number to Freemasons.

And it is very likely that church is now totally under the Freemason's control, although there are certainly many good priests and nuns doing their best to serve as Jesus' Teachings advise them to, and also there are many Catholics who follow Jesus' Teaching and have no idea of 'who' the leaders of their church really follow or what they really believe.
They don't know their church has be infiltrated by followers of Lucifer.

I hope this can clear up the difference between the two beliefs.

The following article explains it much better than I have.
[link to www.henrymakow.com]






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 Quoting: T of G 1020843


Very simply the Luciferian philosophy is,

"Adam and Eve were held prisoner in the bonds of ignorance by an unjust and vindictive God in the Garden of Eden. They were set free from their chains (Evolution through "Primordial Knowing") by Lucifer (Prometheus) through his agent Satan in the guise of a serpent (ancient symbol of Wisdom) with the gift of Intellect (Fire). Through the use of his intellect man will perfect the race (Anglo/Aryan) and will himself become God (promise of Satan to Adam and Eve)."
Any religion, church, organization, or People who believe they are God, will become God, or are becoming God is practicing the Luciferian philosophy of the Mystery Schools, and are acting in furtherance of the conspiracy.

The Luciferian philosophy is a metaphor for the development of the perfected man (Marxist/Leninist) through the process of evolution by learning how to dominate and control nature (called science). The result (they say) will be the apotheosis of the race of mankind and the elimination of all who cannot make this paradigm shift in the coming New Age. The Soviet Union was the most perfect expression of illuminist secular humanist philosophy that has ever been presented before the eyes of an ignorant but gullible public. Now they strive for enslavement of the human race in the new utopia. This will be brought about through deception, manipulation, and psychological operations which make up the art of illusion called magic.



Deification of Christians?


John 17:22 says;
“And the glory which you gave me I have given them that they may be one just as we are one.”

Ephesians 5:1 says;
“Therefore be imitators of GOD.”

Galatians 2:20 says;
“It is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me.”

Colossians 3:11 says;
“Christ is all and in all.”

1 Corinthians 6:17 says;
“He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with him.”

1 Corinthians 12:27 says;
“Now you are the body of Christ.”

1 Corinthians 6:15 says;
“Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ?

Galatians 3:27 says;
“All of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.”

1 John 2:20 says;
“But you have an anointing from the Holy one, and you know all.”

1 Corinthians 2:16 says;
“We have the mind of Christ.”

1 John 2:27 says;
“But as his anointing teaches you about all things and is true and not a lie.”

Revelations 3:21 says;
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with me on my throne, as I also overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Ephesians 4:24 says;
“And put on the new self, which in the likeness of GOD has been created in righteousness and holiness of the truth.”

1 Corinthians 3:16 says;
“Do you not know that you are the temple of GOD and that the spirit of GOD dwells in you?”

2 Corinthians 6:16 says;
“For we are the temple of the living GOD; just as GOD has said. “I will dwell in them and walk among them…”

John 14:12 says;
“He who believes in me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do.”

Luke 10:16 says;
“The one who listens to you listens to me, and the one who rejects you rejects me.”

2 Corinthians 3:18 says;
“But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory…”

1 Corinthians 11:3 says;
“But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman; and GOD is the head of Christ.”

1 Corinthians 12:13 says;
“For in one spirit we were all baptized into one body.”

1 Corinthians 10:17 says;
“We, though many, are one body.”

Ephesians 2:22 says;
“You also are being built together into a dwelling of GOD in the spirit

Philippians 1:20 says;
“Christ will even now, as always, be exalted in my body, whether by life or by death.”

Hebrews 3:6 says;
“Christ was faithful as a son over his house- whose house we are…”

1 Corinthians 3:9 says;
“You are God’s field, God’s building…”

Ephesians 2:21-22 says;
“The whole building being fitted together, is growing into a Holy Temple in the Lord. In whom you are also being built together into a dwelling of GOD in the spirit.”

1 John 1:5 says;
“GOD is light.”

Matthew 5:14 says;
“You are the light of the world.”

John 20:23 says;
“If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained

Psalm 51:1-2 says;
“Be gracious to me O GOD, according to your lovingkindness; according to the greatness of your compassion blot out my transgressions.”
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what makes me suspicious is that he tries to convert everyone to Christianity which is just another form of Luciferianism..maybe even it's highest form. This is not surprising though


Don't you know the difference between Jesus' Teaching, which Christianity is based on and Luciferianism?

I think it is very important to know the difference between them and especially at this time.


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Here you explain what you believe is what they mean.

Very simply the Luciferian philosophy is,

"Adam and Eve were held prisoner in the bonds of ignorance by an unjust and vindictive God in the Garden of Eden. They were set free from their chains (Evolution through "Primordial Knowing") by Lucifer (Prometheus) through his agent Satan in the guise of a serpent (ancient symbol of Wisdom) with the gift of Intellect (Fire). Through the use of his intellect man will perfect the race (Anglo/Aryan) and will himself become God (promise of Satan to Adam and Eve)."
Any religion, church, organization, or People who believe they are God, will become God, or are becoming God is practicing the Luciferian philosophy of the Mystery Schools, and are acting in furtherance of the conspiracy.

The Luciferian philosophy is a metaphor for the development of the perfected man (Marxist/Leninist) through the process of evolution by learning how to dominate and control nature (called science). The result (they say) will be the apotheosis of the race of mankind and the elimination of all who cannot make this paradigm shift in the coming New Age. The Soviet Union was the most perfect expression of illuminist secular humanist philosophy that has ever been presented before the eyes of an ignorant but gullible public. Now they strive for enslavement of the human race in the new utopia. This will be brought about through deception, manipulation, and psychological operations which make up the art of illusion called magic.



Deification of Christians?


John 17:22 says;
“And the glory which you gave me I have given them that they may be one just as we are one.”

Ephesians 5:1 says;
“Therefore be imitators of GOD.”

Galatians 2:20 says;
“It is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me.”

Colossians 3:11 says;
“Christ is all and in all.”


Psalm 51:1-2 says;
“Be gracious to me O GOD, according to your lovingkindness; according to the greatness of your compassion blot out my transgressions.”

ALSO MANY OTHER GREAT QUOTES.

 Quoting: Cypher



Have you read the article from this website which I posted:
[link to www.henrymakow.com]


That should make it very clear that there is a major difference between the two beliefs if what I have written was not clear enough to explain it.


To understand all the quotes you have about what Jesus taught, one has to understand exactly what each term means.

I will attempt to simplify and hope to get it close to right.

God is Spirit, and He made ALL that was made.
In essence WE are all Spirit.
But we are temporarily TRAPPED in physical bodies on a temporary physical world.
Bodies and all physical things are not infinite, they only last for a certain amount of time then cease to exist.

The Christ is God's Son, and we are ALL a part of the Christ, and the Christ is a part of God which resides in all of us. (Even the non believers)
Its part of our heritage.
We just have to learn about Who we are and What we are.


What God creates is FOREVER, (never ending), because He created all to be like Him.

Imagine a huge clean Ocean, and all the individual drops that it would take to make that Ocean.

As each drop is a part of that Ocean, but is not the Oceans

So are we ALL a part of God, but not God.

God made us ALL from Himself, and so we can be like Him.
Jesus came here to teach us how to be like our Father, God.

Its not easy because we also have to learn to be totally forgiving of everyone and also ourselves of all the mistakes we can make here.

This is a difficult and tricky world as we all know.
So we should understand that we can make mistakes at any time, but still have to learn to forgive those mistakes and not call them 'sins' which makes them more than mistakes.


Since God made all that was made, then there really is ONE Life, and it is God's Life.
And each of our lives are an important part of God's Life.

And there is ONLY One Mind, and it is God's Mind.
And we each are a part of God's Mind.
(That also means we each have a potentially very holy mind)

We ALL live forever because God created us as Spirit, and what God creates lives forever.
We are NOT physical bodies because we all know that these bodies only last a short time.

But our Spirit/Mind lives forever.

(the tricky part)

We have always TWO Voices or Teachers in our minds which can advise us for any situation we will have to confront.

We ONLY get to chose which Voice we will listen to for advice.

The EGO which we all made for ourselves in a part of our mind.
And it is connected to the body and all things physical in this world.
That's why I believe it is also connected to Lucifer if he is still active.
If he isn't it still doesn't matter, because the EGO will always advise us to do the wrong thing when we listen to its voice in our mind.

God Knows this and so He gave us His Voice, which is also called the Holy Spirit, to be in our minds.

When we listen to the Holy Spirit's advice it will always be the Right thing to do to solve the problems we face here.


Jesus and Those who work with Him on the Other Side know how difficult it is for us especially NOW, and how confused we can become.
He also knew of the difficult times we would be going through and He gave us His Book in His OWN words which will explain ALL that we need to know to help us understand Who we really are, and What we are capable of doing.
Its called A Course In Miracles, and I highly recommend it.

It will keep you sane while we go through these insane times.


I know this thread is on Ted Gunderson, and I am not being inconsistent by writing the above, because I think, from what I have learned about Ted Gunderson, he is a good example of one of us trying to fulfill his Christlike abilities.
Because he has committed himself to help all those who God has sent to him for help.

God works through us as Us.
When we hear God's Voice it is often through any one of us speaking to each other.

That's why we have to learn to become spiritually minded so that we can know when that is happening.

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Bumping to watch later...I have no speakers here.... =(
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Have you read the article from this website which I posted:
[link to www.henrymakow.com]

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:peepers:
Makow is a Vatican shill imo as is Rense and Alex Jones
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Have you read the article from this website which I posted:
[link to www.henrymakow.com]

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Makow is a Vatican shill imo as is Rense and Alex Jones
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I don't agree or think its a good thing to judge them that way.

Especially since both Makow and Rense have reported so much information concerning what the Freemason Controllers of the Vatican have been doing to manipulate the world.

If you read that article in my other post you would see that they infiltrated the Vatican from within to destroy it from what it was intended to be, and to control it.

Makow has been determined to bring LIGHT to subjects kept hidden by groups with agendas to take advantage of all others on this planet.
He has been a great educator because of that.

We are ALL EQUAL in God's Eyes, we are ALL His Sons, not just a few are favored over all others.
God doesn't do things that way.


Rense has done the same but with all sorts of subjects.
Even Alex Jones, who is a character, but he has been hard hitting in exposing much that had been hidden from us.

I especially liked how he has had Lindsey Williams on to give us what he has been told by the Elites he knows.


If I was picking a team, I would certainly include them.
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Especially since both Makow and Rense have reported so much information concerning what the Freemason Controllers of the Vatican have been doing to manipulate the world.

If you read that article in my other post you would see that they infiltrated the Vatican from within to destroy it from what it was intended to be, and to control it.

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if so.... have they reported this?

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Mr. Sutherland, the man standing with one foot in GS, and the other on the burning Halliburton-BP oil rig, is the Consultor of the Extraordinary Section of the Administration of the Patrimony of the Apostolic See. In other words, Sutherland is the chief financial adviser to the Pope.

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Now, ironically, Sutherland’s mission impossible is to migrate marine flora and fauna, fisherman, and coastal residents out of harms way in this spreading international emergency.

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Wow OP you really had me fooled until I read your thread

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So this is your "solution" huh?

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When Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn led the domestic terrorist group Weather Underground in 1969, a chance meeting led Army veteran Larry Grathwohl into joining the group. Grathwohl served as a courier, running messages between the group’s leadership (called the “Weather Bureau”) and individual cells that were to carry out attacks.

Grathwohl was also an informant for the FBI.

In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who refused to embrace communism.

I asked, “Well what is going to happen to those people we can’t reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?” And the reply was that they’d have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say “eliminate,” I mean “kill.”

Twenty-five million people.
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What other men are doing what Ted did. Is there someone out there to carry on his work?
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Safe bet that his death went almost non reported in MSM, still appalling that he doesn't get mentioned a lot, most people don't want to speak about the global child abuse ring, let alone doing something with that, takes someone really brave while others rather talk about ascending to a higher level and just leaving the systematic abusing of kids behind, but that is more for another topic, like luciferism.

There must be a lot of people going after it, but the media sure ain't reporting about them, probably has a interest in the global child ring too, the whole system seems to be catered to it, gives leverage for blackmailing dirty politicians and other lackeys, real heroes are usually unsung, society rather crucify them to protect the system they serve.





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