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The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?

 
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The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Come on!

I understand the pressure coming out of the pipe/s is extreme. But, when things get extreme we (known for a world full of engineering marvels) have always found a way to fight those extremes with anti-extremes! We can engineer anything we put our minds to in any time period of our choosing if we have the will to do it. It just seems to me there is a breakdown in that willpower somewhere along the way.

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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
My conspiracy theory for the day: Its starting to look to me that 'we' are almost wishing this to become a mega-disaster of epic proportions. Especially if 'we' can control how much can be done to solve this situation and in what period of time.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
we can cap it. duh. but why release super-high-technology? its secret- like everything else... they are losers stuck ina material world- i feel sorry for them. the powers that WANT..
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
they don't want to cap it. they want to bring it under control so they can still get the oil. thats why it is still flowing.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
We haven't even tried. Obama administration has done nothing at all. Why should BP care about capping it? It's not their Gulf and they just want the oil.

Obama is only focused on illegal aliens because he is counting on them to re-elect him. He knows there are no Red States that will support him. Only those who support Obama get aid of any kind. He is sitting on billions in stimulus money but that's only to be used to buy votes for himself and his cronies.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
From what I have gathered from my research on the internet over the years we most likely already have the following technologies (to name a few):

Nuclear-powered tunnel boring machines that have produced hundreds of miles of glass-lined tunnels connecting 'points' across the US.

Manned space-based military platforms that can shoot kinetic projectiles at any point on the earth. The enemy doesn't know what hit them.

Stop the flow of oil and methane into the gulf at this site!
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
We haven't even tried. Obama administration has done nothing at all. Why should BP care about capping it? It's not their Gulf and they just want the oil.

Obama is only focused on illegal aliens because he is counting on them to re-elect him. He knows there are no Red States that will support him. Only those who support Obama get aid of any kind. He is sitting on billions in stimulus money but that's only to be used to buy votes for himself and his cronies.
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Agreed.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
*Wont
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Perhaps it's meant to leak on purpose. There's always an agenda behind suspicious events like this one.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
you would think other countrys whos economy depends on fishing or country is near the spill would help
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Correction..."WE" THEY, don't want to.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
We haven't even tried. Obama administration has done nothing at all. Why should BP care about capping it? It's not their Gulf and they just want the oil.

Obama is only focused on illegal aliens because he is counting on them to re-elect him. He knows there are no Red States that will support him. Only those who support Obama get aid of any kind. He is sitting on billions in stimulus money but that's only to be used to buy votes for himself and his cronies.
 Quoting: Bluebird


^^THAT^^
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
please-- 1 mile underwater isn't an easy place to work-

Can it be solved, sure but engineering marvels take time.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
We haven't even tried. Obama administration has done nothing at all. Why should BP care about capping it? It's not their Gulf and they just want the oil.

Obama is only focused on illegal aliens because he is counting on them to re-elect him. He knows there are no Red States that will support him. Only those who support Obama get aid of any kind. He is sitting on billions in stimulus money but that's only to be used to buy votes for himself and his cronies.
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+1

Fucking Pussy OBambi...I am so sick of his disgusting ass.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Because BP literally got in over its head.

The broken pipe is 5000feet deep. There pressure there is over 2000psi. No human can go to that depth and work. It must all be done robotically.

The pressure of the oil coming out of that tube is probably in excess of 10,000psi

They got themselves into a situation that grossly exceeds the capabilities of available technology.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
WHAT IF...

..there isn't a broken oil well pipe.

What if its all bullshit.

Sure there's some oil out there..

But what if the rest of it is just crap.

..please consider
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Come on!

I understand the pressure coming out of the pipe/s is extreme. But, when things get extreme we (known for a world full of engineering marvels) have always found a way to fight those extremes with anti-extremes! We can engineer anything we put our minds to in any time period of our choosing if we have the will to do it. It just seems to me there is a breakdown in that willpower somewhere along the way.
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Four words:

Dweller on Two Planets
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
WHAT IF...

..there isn't a broken oil well pipe.

What if its all bullshit.

Sure there's some oil out there..

But what if the rest of it is just crap.

..please consider

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Where's all that oil coming from?
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
I forgot to mention. They better figure out how to stop it, because if they don't it will kill all of us..a slow and agonizing death.
"Any treatment, regardless of its effectiveness will be suppressed by Big Pharma if they cannot profit from it" A quote from and in memory of my good friend JAB who was the Ultimate Big Pharma Insider.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
please-- 1 mile underwater isn't an easy place to work-

Can it be solved, sure but engineering marvels take time.
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We are into decades of deep underwater remote control submersible technology. The know how to solve this problem is there and can be brought on-line immediately if the will is strong.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Because BP literally got in over its head.

The broken pipe is 5000feet deep. There pressure there is over 2000psi. No human can go to that depth and work. It must all be done robotically.

The pressure of the oil coming out of that tube is probably in excess of 10,000psi

They got themselves into a situation that grossly exceeds the capabilities of available technology.
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BULLSHIT...
OLD DSRV's to 5000 ft...
Operation
The Deep Submergence Rescue Vehicle (DSRV) is designed to rescue 24 persons at a time at depths of up to 2000 ft. Their maximum operating depth is 5000 ft. Power is provided by 2 large batteries, one fore, and one aft that power the electrical, hydraulic and life support systems. The DSRV uses mercury in a completely sealed system to allow themselves to match any angle (up to 45°) in both pitch and roll so as to "mate" (attach) to a downed submarine that may be at an angle on the sea floor. The DSRV is capable of being transported by Air Force C-5 to anywhere in the world within 24 hours.


It is then loaded onto a "Mother Submarine" (MOSUB).


The MOSUB then carries the DSRV to the rescue site where several trips are made to rescue all personnel.


Rescue is usually accomplished by ferrying rescuees from the stranded sub to the MOSUB, however, they can also be taken to a properly equipped surface support ship.


In addition to a number of U.S. Navy submarines being outfitted for MOSUB capabilities, several NATO countries also have submarines outfitted to carry the U.S. Navy DSRV for rescue capability as needed. Both the UK and French Navies have such submarines.

The interior of the DSRV is composed of 3 spheres. The forward sphere is the "Control Sphere" where the DSRV's pilot and copilot operate the vehicle. The two aft spheres (known as Mid Sphere and Aft Sphere) are used to seat the rescuees or to install equipment for additional operations. Maneuvering is accomplished using 4 thrusters and one main propeller.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
This could have been over within days with explosives.

This could have been over within days with explosives.

This could have been over within days with explosives.

This could have been over within days with explosives.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
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DSV Sea Cliff
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DSV-4 (ex-Sea Cliff) is a 25-ton, manned deep-ocean research submersible owned by the United States Navy. It is sister to DSV-3 Turtle, Alvin (DSV-2), and also an Alvin class Deep Submergence Vehicle. The Sea Cliff was retired from active service in 1998. Per the Naval Vessel Register [1], DSV-4 was returned to active service on September 30, 2002. It is known only by its hull number, not by name.

The DSV-4 originally had a maximum dive depth of 6500 feet (2000 m), like all Alvin-class DSVs at first. It was redesigned to dive to 20,000 feet, and refitted in 1984. With the refit of DSV-4, DSV-1 (ex-Trieste II) was retired from service. It has a hatch 24 inches in diameter, and held in place mechanically with hatch dogs and while submerged by the pressure of the water above it (it is tapered, narrower inward). The Alvin-class DSVs were designed to replace older DSVs, such as the less maneuverable Trieste-class bathyscaphes. The DSV-4 can dive 5,000 feet further than the famed Alvin, however the super Alvin class replacement for DSV-2 is designed to dive to 22,000 feet.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
please-- 1 mile underwater isn't an easy place to work-

Can it be solved, sure but engineering marvels take time.
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This.


More difficult than space.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

DSV Sea Cliff
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to:navigation, search
DSV-4 (ex-Sea Cliff) is a 25-ton, manned deep-ocean research submersible owned by the United States Navy. It is sister to DSV-3 Turtle, Alvin (DSV-2), and also an Alvin class Deep Submergence Vehicle. The Sea Cliff was retired from active service in 1998. Per the Naval Vessel Register [1], DSV-4 was returned to active service on September 30, 2002. It is known only by its hull number, not by name.

The DSV-4 originally had a maximum dive depth of 6500 feet (2000 m), like all Alvin-class DSVs at first. It was redesigned to dive to 20,000 feet, and refitted in 1984. With the refit of DSV-4, DSV-1 (ex-Trieste II) was retired from service. It has a hatch 24 inches in diameter, and held in place mechanically with hatch dogs and while submerged by the pressure of the water above it (it is tapered, narrower inward). The Alvin-class DSVs were designed to replace older DSVs, such as the less maneuverable Trieste-class bathyscaphes. The DSV-4 can dive 5,000 feet further than the famed Alvin, however the super Alvin class replacement for DSV-2 is designed to dive to 22,000 feet.
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Thats what I'm talking about. Bring it on!
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
please-- 1 mile underwater isn't an easy place to work-

Can it be solved, sure but engineering marvels take time.

This.


More difficult than space.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Nothing they didn't know going in. No excuse.
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That's right. Someone knew there could be this potential situation. Was there not a contigency in place to deal with it if it came to pass like it did? A backup plan to the back up plan?
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
They are planning to fill it this weekend, through a pipe. They said with cement, mud, and something else.

Now the big question why in heck didn't they do this before now. I think they were sure they could save that well, this is only my opinion, not necessarily the truth.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
I'm starting to think most of it isn't coming from a pipe.
Never mind.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Its obvious that the underseas robotic technology to stop a leak like this exists only in theory. All they really got is relief wells to stop this thing. BP's response has been piss poor. The government ought to fund and provide resources to a team of engineers to design a custom robotic sub that can stop the leak. The two relief wells are too vulnerable to failure, hurricanes, etc. We need another solution.
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Re: The world has all of these technological advances and we can't completely cap off some extremely pressurized broken oil well pipe/s?
Its obvious that the underseas robotic technology to stop a leak like this exists only in theory. All they really got is relief wells to stop this thing. BP's response has been piss poor. The government ought to fund and provide resources to a team of engineers to design a custom robotic sub that can stop the leak. The two relief wells are too vulnerable to failure, hurricanes, etc. We need another solution.
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the federal officials ride along with BP employees , not the other way around

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