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Russian astrologer predicts the US´ collapse

 
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05/12/2005 09:06 PM
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Russian astrologer predicts the US´ collapse
05/11/2004 18:14
In response to recently published CIA´s forecast regarding the fall of the Russian Federation into several separate states, one Russian astrologer forecasted collapse of the United States, reports Interfax-Ukraine.

Head of the Russian school of astrology Alexander Zaraev considers that in about five years many American States could claim their independence.

"The US will suffer major cataclysms of economic character in the nearest future. They in turn will lead to state expansion. Many of those states will want to be independent of Washington," claimed the astrologer.

According to him, this will take place in 2008-2012. 2009 will be the peak of such cataclysms. It is around this time, notes the astronomer, that America will be going through major changes in its legislation, including the Constitution.

In the end of April 2004, several media sources reported that CIA´s report (2000) predicted the fall of Russia into several separate states by 20156. Based on Zaraev´s calculations, nothing of such sort is going to happen in Russia in the nearest future.

"On the contrary,- remarks the astrologer, the current era of Aquarius will be a good time for positive changes in Russia; while the US will be giving up its leading positions on world´s arena."

Alexander Zaraev considers that "this is already an ongoing process; by 2008-2009 America´s stardom will be in decline."

The astrologer finds the roots of the upcoming unfortunate for America events in September 2001, when Saturn happened to oppose Pluto.
DanG  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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worshipworshipbushfingsheepsheepdynamite
all according to plan ...
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Personally I think it´s more likely to be this year, when the United States Of America gets nuked by the rest of the world, this will lead to the USA becoming DUSA, Dis-United States Of America, each indivudual state only wanting to worry about its own survival and uniquq way of doing things, protecting their own individual borders with their own citizens, just like is happeninn on the border of Mexico/USA.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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nope
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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As long as lil´ bushie is in the captian´s seat America will be in dire straits.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Child PLEASE!

If Russians are so damn smart why aren´t they running the world? hhmmmmmm?


:dubya:
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Of course a Russian would hope this, when the ruble is about as valuable as the slugs you take out of a conduit box.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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"As long as lil´ bushie is in the captian´s seat America will be in dire straits"

seems to me we were in dire straights before little Bushie

wasn´t it Clinton who signed NAFTA, and the Free Trade Agreement with China??

there´s your culprit, and you´re too ignorant to even know it
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Different sides to the same evil coin.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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The US will get nuked? Nope. If we go down, we´re taking the rest of the world with us.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Caught the tail end of the Montel Show yesterday.

Sylvia Brown was saying stay off trains and don´t go to the "Holy City".
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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To rrick-10210, to your simple-minded answer of ´nope´, I say back again, ´Yep´.

´Child PLEASE!
If Russians are so damn smart why aren´t they running the world? hhmmmmmm?´

And to answer this question, who says the Russians arn´t already in control? Also the Russian´s are long passed the Cold War Communist time of having to feel it´s required to continually beat their chests and going around the world threatening nations and telling everyone else how strong and great they are. Like the USA continually does, and boasting to everyone that they have the most military power to kick everyones arses!
Russia just sits back quietly letting the US government believe they hold all the cards, because Russia is so sure of their superiority against the USA, they don´t care to have a PR campaign to make everyone believe it or not.
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"The US will get nuked? Nope. If we go down, we´re taking the rest of the world with us."


Exactly what I was going to say. cheers
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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"Sylvia Brown was saying stay off trains and don´t
go to the "Holy City"."

The same coward who has run away from the Randi
Challenge she accepted on national TV about two
years ago. When has she ever been right?

And nice dodge on "holy city". That could be
any of up to a half dozen places, more if she
stretches it. That´s how they play this game.
Also, trains somewhere in the world are always
having accidents. Not every day, but at least
every week or two.

You don´t believe she´s prophetic, do you?




end and always will be
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Have you never heard of stealth technology, nuke stealth missiles that will hit the US even before they knew they were coming, also they would have no idea where they came from,
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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A Russian astrologer is all the proof I need.

Just shot the cats and dogs. Kids are next, then the neighbors, next me, then my wife.

Wait a minute, oops ... damn!
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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The psycic I saw said something similar,as to the collapse of the U.S. dollar.
"Could be devalued ten to one."

He was also right aboout the attempt on the President´s life and the mid east war,of which you plan to escalate further with Iran.
It is set in prophecy ,no have no choice even having foreknowledge.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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is this the same guy who is sueing NASA?
zangtang  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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single biggest ever misatake perpetually made about prophecy......

NOTHING IS WRITTEN IN STONE

jesus any more of this shiyattt and i´m going to the darkside....

fuck of a lot more money in it.
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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Like the title of the book,"You can always trust a coummunist to be a coummunist". naughty
neti  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Actually, I think that would be wonderful, if states broke away from the United States... It would devolve power to the people more, and curb the drift to centralization of power. Yeah! I hope it happens.
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Carl Johann Calleman
The Mayan Calendar.



The Shift in the Global Economy
In the Fourth DAY of the Galactic Underworld the shift away from Western dominance will likely be most clearly visible in the economic arena. This DAY will thus bring to an end the domination of the world economy by the West, and it is easy to see the background to this: The national debt of the US is currently at about 7 trillion dollars and its budget deficit at about 400 billion dollars while savings are minimal. The unofficial idea seems to be that the rest of the world is investing in the US economy by giving credits, but the question is with such deficits how long the rest of the world will find it a worthwhile debtor. A somewhat similar situation is at hand in its main Western partner, the UK, where personal debt recently passed the one trillion pound mark. On the other hand, China has now in terms of GDP become the second economy of the world (with Japan third and India fourth).

Comparisons of the changing relative sizes of the world’s largest economies however do not capture the real picture. What says more is that an astounding 60 % of the increase in investments in the world in the years 2000-2003 happened in China and that the same country stood for about a third of the increase in oil consumption as well as in trade. As much as forty per cent of Japan’s growth in 2004 was driven by exports to China. We are thus now witnessing a paradigm shift of the global economy, where East Asia, and especially China, is becoming the chief engine of all of the world’s economy. What we may conclude from the Mayan calendar, with the energies currently favoring the Eastern Hemisphere, is that this change is a fundamental paradigm shift that will not be reversed. After about 250 years of Western dominance of the world’s trade and economy, first by the UK and then by the US, East Asia is now becoming its driving force, its engine. While most of the world has not yet woken up to this fact, the Fourth DAY will bring it to the forefront of its attention.

When I, based on my studies of the Mayan calendar, in the 90’s wrote about this forthcoming end to Western dominance this seemed like science fiction. Now we are already there, and what it shows is that the energies of the cosmic plan are much more powerful than temporary appearances when it comes to the economic development of the world. I foresee however the changes in the world economy happening in two steps: In DAY 4, East Asia, and especially China, will take the role of the world’s economic engine to the detriment of the power of the pound and the dollar. Especially the US dollar will likely depreciate considerably in value and be shun by foreign creditors with a whole range of political and economical consequences. Then in DAY 5, I expect a more fundamental change to take place in how we perceive “values” and this will mean an even more fundamental shift in the world’s “economy”, some kind of collapse of the international monetary system. Such a collapse is most easily understood as an aspect of the energy shift favoring the right brain half that will lead human beings to see reality concretely to the detriment of the global “monopoly game” of paper and cyber money (which are abstractions without any real existence). Among other things the mechanisms by means of which banks “create” credit will become transparent. The old abstract calculations of the left brain half will then no longer be consistent with the emerging values of the right brain half, which sees reality concretely. This conflict between perceptions will be the deeper and more fundamental reason that the world economy will reach a point where no further economic growth will be possible and if anything a negative downward spiral will start. It is appropriate to talk about hitting a “wall”, since no matter what means are being attempted, such as the expansion of credit, the wheels will then still not start turning.

The real cause of this coming to a wall is thus to be found in the altered consciousness that the upcoming pulses of LIGHT will bring. There is then really no need to present technical reasons as to why a wall will present itself to continued economic growth. While many people may be shocked by the prospects of such an end to economic growth we may also look upon it positively. An end to economic growth obviously is very good for the Earth and the environment. It is also quite possible that as economic growth comes to an end population growth will find the same fate due to the very same shift in consciousness. The need for growth actually has its origin in the dualist consciousness, and the need for filling holes of emptiness in the human mind that this has caused during the past 5000 years and most markedly since the blinded consciousness of the Planetary Underworld began to rule in the mid-18th century, which really made both economic and population growth take off. As the Galactic Underworld DAY-by-DAY now serves to create human beings that are whole, much of the driving force of both economic and population growth will disappear. As a further spin-off of this emerging consciousness it will no longer be possible to regard the Earth, and life on it, as dead matter to be exploited according to the calculations of the left brain.

These are some of the changes on the global level that the transformation of consciousness of the Fourth DAY will bring. But how will it affect our individual lives? A first approximation is that the kind of occurrences that followed upon the Oneness Celebration (June 6-8, 2004, at the midpoint of the Third NIGHT) will characterize the experience of all of the Fourth DAY. Typically people then described an increase in telepathy, a speed-up of processes of spiritual evolution and breakups of dysfunctional relationships that were not aligned with their higher purpose. These kinds of occurrences likely will be a normal feature of everyday life throughout the Fourth DAY, especially for those that are attuned to the cosmic plan. We may think of ourselves as nerve cells in a global brain whose connecting threads are now being entirely rewired. In such a situation we have little reason to expect our lives to proceed in a linear fashion and in many ways our world and our perception of it can be turned upside down as a result of this rewiring. This rewiring of the planet on a very large scale affects our relationships in a way that may not be easily comprehensible from our own limited individual perspectives. We will simply have to have faith that this rewiring has a higher purpose and that this purpose is good. From the point where this new creation DAY begins on December 4 we will however find that those that are aligned with the cosmic plan will gain a substantial wind on their back in their projects.

I think then that there is every reason to expect that the Fourth DAY will amount to a turning point in our civilizational development. It is only as we now become more strongly influenced by the rapidly alternating energies of the Galactic Underworld and the ensuing speed-up of time that larger groups of people will come to understand that we are subject to a cosmic plan and that this cosmic plan follows the Mayan calendar. A special day to notice in the Cosmic Time Plan is the very midpoint of the Galactic Underworld, which also is the very midpoint of the Fourth DAY. This midpoint may be identified as June 2, 2005, which is dominated by the energy 1 Imix, 1 Alligator, in the traditional Sacred Mayan calendar. This may be a time to visualize the end of dominance at all levels of human relations, personal, political and economical. To visualize the end to dominance will now be more powerful than to visualize peace and the point to realize is that if we are able to create the end to dominance peace will naturally follow. To visualize the end to dominance is also to visualize the end to the current imbalance in our own minds between what is mediated by the left and right hemispheres of our brains. To create balance within ourselves and in all our relations is a way of preparing for the Enlightenment that may be humanity’s as the Mayan calendar comes to an end – a life lived fully in the present moment unfettered by the linear time and separate strategizing that the left brain currently imposes on us.

[link to www.calleman.com]





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