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Breaking 17 states follow Arizona's lead -Illigal aliens on the move- are they coming to your state

 
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I personally do not have a problem with these laws, except for the fact that I will be abused by the police and local governments. Like the Patriot act before it, it will be used as a stepping stone to other infringing freedom laws.

The potential for abuse is definately there. But something must be done and the feds don't seem to want to do anything, in fact I think its part of their plan to let illegals run rampant.
 Quoting: rken

What I don't get is this law is already a National law its just not being inforced. I'm happy other states are joining in but one of the main problems is the businesses that hire and employ them. If they didn't have jobs they would have no reason to come across the border the only other ones that would be coming across would be the ones selling drugs ect. Many big businesses say they don't employ illegals which in all reality they are just as guilty for example they hire company's that do have illegals working for them and they pay that company alot less than others. Its all tied in together if you can catch my drift.
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I feel bad for them really. My brother's son took the job away from a Mexican dude who had a new born and no money. He got the job because he could speak perfect English, and convinced the boss he would make less mistakes. You will see this more and more. Americans taking jobs they used to turn down. Times are tuff. There isn't much pickings for immigrants. Soon food stamps and welfare will be cut off. They I really feel bad for them.
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My brother's son took the job away from a Mexican dude who had a new born and no money. He got the job because he could speak perfect English, and convinced the boss he would make less mistakes.
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HURRAY!!!!!

That's some damn good news.
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New Mexico, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida...all missing from this list and are the ones needed the most go stem the tide backwards.
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Don't forget Oregon! These illegals have GUTTED this state! They are literally everywhere you look!

But of course, the COMMUNIST "government" here in Oregon STILL won't ever even DREAM of stopping the invasion, or doing ANYTHING about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978611

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Hopefully, and God Willing, we will have a change of leadership in Oregon come November ...

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New Jersey and Rhode Island surprised me when I saw it listed. Those two states are almost as liberally stupid as California.
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New Jersey and Rhode Island surprised me when I saw it listed. Those two states are almost as liberally stupid as California.
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Texas is also on the list. Perry is reported to have said he's not signing anything like it.
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New Jersey and Rhode Island surprised me when I saw it listed. Those two states are almost as liberally stupid as California.


Texas is also on the list. Perry is reported to have said he's not signing anything like it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977189


ALL IT WOULD TAKE FOR OBAMA TO KILL EVERYONE IS FOR ALL THE STATES THAT BOARDER MEXICO TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
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Steps need to be taken to ensure these laws do not undermine the constitutional rights of American citizens via racial, national, or religious profiling and related harassment. Also, I think it only fair to ensure that those illegal immigrants who have embodied US traditions of freedom and democracy, and who have bothered to initiate themselves in US free and democratic values, while supporting our economy with their labor be allowed the opportunity to become American citizens. Immigration laws should be used to deport criminals (gangs, etc...) first and formost. Never fail to report, deport or jail organized crime.
 Quoting: Mmmetull 974636


This would be much simpler if certain places wouldn't give them drivers licenses.

Another prime example of certain people causing the infringement of others rights due to refusal to follow the law.
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I personally do not have a problem with these laws, except for the fact that I will be abused by the police and local governments. Like the Patriot act before it, it will be used as a stepping stone to other infringing freedom laws.

The potential for abuse is definately there. But something must be done and the feds don't seem to want to do anything, in fact I think its part of their plan to let illegals run rampant.
 Quoting: rken


Yep I went shopping today in NC and I didn't hear any english in the stores. That didn't quite upset me as the carelessness and lack of respect for others as the merchandise was just left on the floor when they didn't want it. That trait of disrespect trains others to follow suit and I see more americans doing the same type of thing.

I have taught my children better than that and leaving those damn buggies in the middle of the parking lot drives me crazy. You car gets hit by one of those things and it really isn't the store's fault, it is the carelessness and lack of character of the shoppers. I look at it as a contribution to society by American Idol, Dancing with the stars and any other behavior modification show out there. It works well in this country as people have forgotten self respect and understanding of their own character.

And we get mad at senators.
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WARNING!!!!

A reliable source has indicated the mexican population in the usa have been tainting food at mexican resteraunts with fecies, urine, semen, saliva, snot, and other discusting treats.

Dine at mexican resteraunts at your own risk.
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why does California loves illegal aliens
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why does California loves illegal aliens
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because they are lazy rich liberals who get labor and a happy ending verry cheap. They dont give a dam about the people, just their own needs.

just like my ex girlfreind...that

......bitch
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And to see what they are doing to the beautiful desert and reservations in the southwest. I can't believe more eco-friendly liberals are not up in arms about this travesty!

[link to www.desertinvasion.us]

Looks just like what they do to neighborhoods, here in Oregon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978611


Not surprising. Oregon gives them driver's licenses.

I got rear-ended in California by a drunk. Fortunately the only things that got hurt were the cars; everybody was absolutely fine.

He didn't speak English and had an Oregon driver's license and Oregon tags on his car. I was told that Oregon gives them licenses quite easily so it's a haven for them.

Please try to change your state's policy, for your sake and others' too.
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This is what confounds me: undocumented people come to this country for a better life, get jobs, buy stuff, and live out there lives in a humble way.

We let another person in the country, allow him to go to college leaglly, and allow him to become a citizen, and he tries to blow up Times Square.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978390


1970

undocumented people come to this country for a better life, get jobs, buy stuff, and live out there lives in a humble way.



2010

undocumented people come to this country for free ride , get jobs, buy stuff,make 8 kids,parade mex flag,demand that their language and their way of life and live out there lives in a arrogant way.

1970 mexican learns english, wants to be an american, knows responsibility

2010 mexican doesnt need english, doesnt want to be american, knows that their lack of responsibility will be rewarded by liberal americans.
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only assholes applaud this kind of shit.
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It's time to enforce the law, the federal law, if you are here illegally you will be deported. What's so complicated about that?
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"The Federal government has been hijacked by special interests that are neglectful of their duties and even hostile towards the rightful citizens of America," said William Gheen. "It is incumbent upon our states to protect American lives, property, jobs, wages, security, and health, when the Executive Branch fails to honor its Constitutional responsibility to do so by enforcing our existing border and immigration laws."

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This says it all.

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I hope these states follow through. With enough states putting pressure on Feds then Ice may be forced to do their job.

In another thread a poster (ad 519348) posted this. It's one possibility and I'm sure there's more for these states to take.

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I suggest the State of Arizona file a Writ of Mandamus against the President of the United States.

Basically, it's a lawsuit to force an government to "DO YOUR DAMN JOB".

A good judge will appoint a federal trustee (who works for the judicial branch) to do the job while the dept. of justice decides if they really want to go fishing down this road."
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And, Rken, you only got shilled once by 905800 that I could see. He's been shilling the hell out of other related threads - like every other post.

What did you do to him? Do you have him locked up in a little cage in your basement? laugh
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Damn. Tennessee's not on the list. Wish it was, because the illegals will be stampeding to those states not on the list.
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only assholes applaud this kind of shit.
 Quoting: paranoid eyes 823195

only assholes DONT applaud this kinda shit .we will not stand idle by when our counrty is is being overrun the governor of arizona has put the call out to come to the aid of her state its the duty of every americn to heed her call one for all all for one we etheir stand up with her or go down with her if we dont we dont deserve to be called THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
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All a part of the plan for the Police State
 Quoting: Digital Rapture


True.

In principle, the law is absolutely in order-necessary, even but what you're seeing is not what you're getting!

Focus.

Pay attention.

Do you really think TPTB are suddenly struck stupid by this law & the movement behind it?

Of course not.

TPTB are simply giving the public-at-large just enough rope to hang themselves!

After all is said & done..........welcome to the jungle, baby!

Police State. And, we helped!

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Hey, I found this comment a couple days ago.

All the pissing and moaning here. The majority favor Arizona and the decision to enforce the law as they, and we all, should be doing. And if you dont like it, tough, pick your own fruit, package your own meat, support your local fast foods, cut your own lawn, clean your own house, and wash and press you own laundry. Because your days of getting those services for cheap, are numbered ! It's time for AMERICAN to take back the workforce and have jobs !




This was a comment left by someone at this site's link and story.

link : [link to www.cbsnews.com]



by legalamericancitizen May 13, 2010 9:26 PM EDT MOVING TO MEXICO

Dear President Obama:

I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.

We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican Government forms in English.

4. I want my grand-kids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grand-kids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grand-kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my housetop, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

14. I want to receive free food stamps.

15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

16. I'll need income tax credits so that although I don't pay Mexican taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Government pays $4,500.00 to help me buy a new car.

18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

You're the man!!!


link : [link to www.cbsnews.com]
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Hey, I found this comment a couple days ago.

All the pissing and moaning here. The majority favor Arizona and the decision to enforce the law as they, and we all, should be doing. And if you dont like it, tough, pick your own fruit, package your own meat, support your local fast foods, cut your own lawn, clean your own house, and wash and press you own laundry. Because your days of getting those services for cheap, are numbered ! It's time for AMERICAN to take back the workforce and have jobs !




This was a comment left by someone at this site's link and story.

link : [link to www.cbsnews.com]



by legalamericancitizen May 13, 2010 9:26 PM EDT MOVING TO MEXICO

Dear President Obama:

I'm planning to move my family and extended family into Mexico for my health, and I would like to ask you to assist me.

We're planning to simply walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico , and we'll need your help to make a few arrangements.

We plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws.

I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here. So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Calderon, that I'm on my way over?

Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. Please print all Mexican Government forms in English.

4. I want my grand-kids to be taught Spanish by English-speaking (bi-lingual) teachers.

5. Tell their schools they need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my grand-kids to see the American flag on one of the flag poles at their school.

7. Please plan to feed my grand-kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do plan to get a car and drive in Mexico , but I don't plan to purchase car insurance, and I probably won't make any special effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from their president to leave me alone, please be sure that every patrol car has at least one English-speaking officer.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my housetop, put U S. flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, or have any labor or tax laws enforced on any business I may start.

13. Please have the president tell all the Mexican people to be extremely nice and never say critical things about me or my family, or about the strain we might place on their economy.

14. I want to receive free food stamps.

15. Naturally, I'll expect free rent subsidies.

16. I'll need income tax credits so that although I don't pay Mexican taxes, I'll receive money from the government.

17. Please arrange it so that the Mexican Government pays $4,500.00 to help me buy a new car.

18. Oh yes, I almost forgot, please enroll me free into the Mexican Social Security program so that I'll get a monthly income in retirement.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all his people who walk over to the U.S. from Mexico . I am sure that President Calderon won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

You're the man!!!


link : [link to www.cbsnews.com]
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New Mexico, Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida...all missing from this list and are the ones needed the most go stem the tide backwards.




Don't forget Oregon! These illegals have GUTTED this state! They are literally everywhere you look!

But of course, the COMMUNIST "government" here in Oregon STILL won't ever even DREAM of stopping the invasion, or doing ANYTHING about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 978611


I was shocked a few years ago when I heard the Mexicans had made it all the way to Oregon. That was a beutiful state with a lot of very nice people. I'm so sorry to hear this.
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Englishmen, who have no right in this kingdom of France, the King of Heaven sends you word and warning...depart into your own country... Joan of Arc.
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Oklahoma?



Bwaah ha ha !!
Cui Bono?
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You people are clueless about what's really going on and what the Government agenda is. I believe I can enlighten some of you.


Please do this sometime in the near future:

(Warning: If you live in the state of Arizona do not try this or you'll be arrested, and sent to Mexico even though you're a US Citizen.)

Leave all forms of ID at home, go down to your local welfare office or a place where they give out food stamps and try to apply for these said "benefits that the illegals can get". Let them know you're from another country (Canada?) and that you have no ID but would like some benefits. See how quickly they'll throw your asses out on the street. Then, go down to your local University, and demand to be a student there without any form of ID. Demand that they take you in for free. See if they offer you anything other than an ESL class. But take it even further, try to get employed without an ID, even if you're willing to do any low level job. Any takers? Or how about this? Try to rent an appartment without an ID. Let them know you have no SSN. You'll be shocked to find that the only people who'd take you will expect $3,000+ in rent per month for a one bedroom appartment.

Sure! "The illegals have it sweet", you'll say, all they need is a fake ID and a fake SSN. Ok, smartass, you ever try to get one of those? What happens if you get found out? You get arrested.

You're all moaning about the illegals and how they have one too many rights, and taking your jobs and stuff. What will be funny to see is when you take all the illegals away, the jobs that you thought were taken by the illegals will actually turn out to be taken by US residents, who are here legally. You'll be shocked how many of them actually are. And you thought they were here without papers! Fools!

There aren't as many illegals in this country as you think. The number you are shown by the media is over-inflated. It is all just political propoganda to make you scared that illegal immigration is getting out of hand and that "something MUST be done". Something means giving up your freedoms and becoming a police state.

Just because you see a Mexican who doesn't speak English, doesn't mean he's an illegal and has a fake ID. That's what you're lead to assume. But if you dig deeper you'll be shocked that he's been legal for 30 or something years. He just wasn't required to pass a test in English back in those days so to this day he doesn't see a need to learn it.

But by the time you realize you've been lied to by the media and the Government about the real number of illegals, you would have all your power submitted to the Government. You'll be harassed on every street corner by the police officers demanding to see your ID.

Or better yet, so that no-one forgets their ID at home by mistake, and gets arrested by mistake, they'll chip you. It will be the "ultra cool" thing so that noone mistakes you for anyone else and so that "no illegal can steal your identity."

The police will scan your arm and determine if you are who you claim to be and if you may proceed on your way or not.

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