I was ritually abused and mind controlled as a child - ask me a question

Soooo you don't mind if someone calls you a fucking cunt?

Esp since that is what you're attracting to yourself right?


First,nope,not in the slightest.
I've been called worse,and as I said it's just a set of syllables, so why should I care?

That was a pitiful lie.

Second, I am sane enough to realise that I am not responsible for other's actions-they are.

Um didn't you just blame ME for what Sandi says and does?So, by the same token, shouldn't SHE be responsible for her OWN actions?

Third: you're an atrocious lying Teutonic twat.
You have nothing of merit to say so you have to resort to name calling. You make that one up all by yourself?

What did you make me say that deary?

I DIDN'T (see above statement)...YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS !!!

You're making shit up, bitch. Nobody said they had most of a bone. It was a bone fragment, sawed off, if you'd been paying attention instead of trying to find ANY WAY you could to try to silence the truth. Secondly, a 19 year old bone fragment doesn't have saliva on it, you fuckwad.

You'll notice, other posters aren't allowed to talk about anything if it doesn't meet OP and Sandi's agenda. Then the poster is run off the thread. If other posters were allowed to participate in the thread, then people would get some valuable information and highly effective healing methods.

I'm not the one with the EGO problem!
Edging
God
Out

You're even starting to sound and behave like Sandi.
She can claim another victim!

I haven't lied about it even once. I've given all the proof, you simply didn't listen to me. In fact, not just the name of my mother, but newspaper articles are also given where I told you to look.

So you're the lying contradictor. You're too lazy to go look where I told you to for all you supposedly "nicely" asked for, plus more.

So I will continue to counter your lies, your bullshit, and your laziness with actual posts ABOUT THE SUBJECT.

I said the bone was SAWED THE WAY I SAID IT WAS. How is a SAWED OFF BONE a whole bone, you dumb cunt? Do I have to hold your stupid little hand with every god-damned thing I say?

Let's count the ways that you've tried to discredit me and failed:

1. but, but, but, you said BONE!! OMG!!
2. It's IMPOSSIBLE for you to have been born with black hair and end up a blond toddler, OMG!!!
3. Your mother didn't die, LoooooL!! Hee hee hee!!!
4. I don't liiiiiike you! NOBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD LIIIIIKES you, so you HAVE to lying, cause I SAY SO!! OMG!!


Give it a fucking rest already. I've refuted all of your bullshit.

You're no fucking expert on DNA. You're no fucking expert in pediatrics. You've been given the information about my mother but are just too fucking lazy to look it up.

And seriously, nobody gives a fuck that you don't like me because I infuriated you by not accepting your vile, violent, abusive religion.



As far as making shit up? It's DEFINITELY YOU making shit up. I've told what happened to me. You've just sat there and pompously proclaimed that you've suffered the most of anyone (no ego THERE), that you're going to prove me wrong (and then promptly proceeded to fail on every point), and that you've NEVER attacked anyone (while you continue apace at doing so).

You are the most fucked up, insane person I've ever seen.

As far as my mother's name, you dumb ass cunt, I ALREADY GAVE IT PUBLICLY SEVERAL TIMES. And I've ALREADY PUBLICLY STATED THE NAME of the guy in San Quentin who was part of her murder but never convicted for THAT one. He was convicted of dismembering bodies, the same as was done to my mother. Which you'd know, if you'd read the story as you claim to have (more of your clear and blatant lies).

So seriously, fuck off already.

Now, I shall proceed to post PERTINENT information, to offset your mouth-breathing harassment.

Oh and in case I forgot to mention it:

Sandi, I just read that article and found much of it interesting.

I have come to understand that which was mentioned in this article.... that the sex rituals with other adults and with children were a way of harvesting power and energy for the one conducting or overpowering in the ritual. It makes perfect sense in a physical but also an energetic way. Pedophilia is less about pleasure and more about asserting control and domination over a less powerful person (child). On an energetic level, I feel that some amount of life force energy is taken from the child and hoarded by the adult commiting these abuses. I felt this, remember feeling this loss of my own personal power through the ritual more than I remember the details of the ritual itself.

I guess what I have difficulty in understanding with Ott is that the beginning of the article states that he believes all religions have been infiltrated with luciferianism yet he still holds onto the idea of christ as a savior. Why do you feel this is? Is it that this corruptedness is so vast and wide spread that to fully acknowledge it leads us to need to hold onto an idea of hope? I still find myself wanting to believe that an alien race will come in and save us all though I more logically feel that we are the only saviors there are? Have any thoughts?

I have heard of this "A. True Ott" before, but don't remember how or what the direct reference was. It's interesting stuff, though...

[link to www.exposingsatanism.org]

A.True Ott, excommunicated by the Mormon Church for his controversial research, says he experienced death threats trying to get at the truth behind deep-seeded corruption in U.S. government and LDS hierarchy. Satanic influences abound and corruption must stop in order to avert World War III, claims Ott in his upcoming book 'Free At Last.'

The article talks about how he was terrorized and threatened when he left the church:

True Ott, a former Mormon excommunicated from the LDS church, woke up one morning at his Cedar City, Utah, home to find a large red cross or X painted on his doorstep.

And this evil sign, according to Ott, is the LDS's symbolic equivalent to the KKK's cross-burning tactics used against Southern Blacks.

The following is interesting, and something I've not heard before. I'm not sure if I'm just woefully uninformed, or if they've managed to keep this True Ott stuff pretty subdued?

Ott tells a long story, told to him by the Jesuit priest in strict confidence, which he broke in his upcoming book in order to "alert humanity of the truth," regarding how the Book of Mormon was taken from the writings from a little known "white-skinned Indian tribe" discovered by Jesuit missionaries, the tribe's origins eventually leading back to the Middle East.

Although the story of the "white-skinned tribe" is too long for this article, it provides the beginning clues to the Jesuit-Luciferian and Freemasonry influence still existing today in the LDS church, as passed on through top leaders, including Brigham Young.



Loads more at the link. Interesting stuff, though I'm skeptical on some of it. He says "Satan definitely exists" and says he had an NDE (as an adult, already steeped in this sort of mysticism) that proved it to him.

Having had them myself, I know that as you age or are presented expectations, the more and more NDEs seem to meet those expectations.

But it's interesting stuff with regards to the ritual abuses, if you wade through the religious stuff.

...snip for length...

I guess what I have difficulty in understanding with Ott is that the beginning of the article states that he believes all religions have been infiltrated with luciferianism yet he still holds onto the idea of christ as a savior. Why do you feel this is? Is it that this corruptedness is so vast and wide spread that to fully acknowledge it leads us to need to hold onto an idea of hope? I still find myself wanting to believe that an alien race will come in and save us all though I more logically feel that we are the only saviors there are? Have any thoughts?

Here is an article (seems a little familiar) of an actual case of SRA within a mormon family where both parents later signed confessions of actually commiting the abuse though the statute of limitations had expired and so they were not prosecuted... AND STILL...

the author of this article is speculating that the SRA did not happen and the memories were false memories! Sheesh!

This reminded me so much of the case I posted about last week and it is interesting how the details of the ritual abuse coincide with the experiences that some of us have reported on...

[link to www.religioustolerance.org]

If this is not outright agenda to keep things silent, I don't know what is.

...snip for length...

I guess what I have difficulty in understanding with Ott is that the beginning of the article states that he believes all religions have been infiltrated with luciferianism yet he still holds onto the idea of christ as a savior. Why do you feel this is? Is it that this corruptedness is so vast and wide spread that to fully acknowledge it leads us to need to hold onto an idea of hope? I still find myself wanting to believe that an alien race will come in and save us all though I more logically feel that we are the only saviors there are? Have any thoughts?


I think that it's pretty simple really. The idea of escape from this reality is very, very potent.

Consider that almost every single religion in existence contains this concept of escape.

-- Eastern mysticism: Enligthen yourself and ascend
-- All Judaic-based religions: A savior
-- Most New Age stuff: Aliens or ascension

Nearly every religion in history has some kind of savior, or a get-out-by-pleasing-a-god sort of 'hook.' When there aren't stories of escape, there are stories of an afterlife where you NEVER return here. Valhalla, heaven, even Hades (which was originally not an evil place at all).

It is basic human nature to want to escape pain and suffering. Consider that this even extends to prisoners, or anyone else... escape from Alcatraz was impossible-- and this was constantly told to them in order to demoralize them.

Consider the fact that "there is no escape" seems to be one of the most demoralizing, hopeless, helpless statements to people en masse. Few can say to that, "So what? I'm happy here, why would I want to escape? Or leave at all for that matter?" And if anyone does say that, almost everyone else thinks he or she is crazy and just enjoys suffering and pain.

It's the temptation, the siren's call of "escape" that makes these religions and these beliefs so intrinsically attractive. It combines a promise of peace with a promise of continued awareness of self.

If he was raised with that belief system, then it will most likely be that one to which he will ultimately return. It promises a get-out-of-jail-free card, plus he was indoctrinated deeply into it (as we all are in this society, even if not raised in it).

Various beliefs hold various reasons why we should be desperate to escape this place. The most common seems to hold that we are all spiritual prisoners in some way, shape, or form.

Be it that this is an alien's prison planet, or that some malevolent force has created it as a trap to milk us of our energy, or because we are so bad that god cannot stand us and we have to LEARN OUR LESSON before we can be freed by the almighty saviors (of whatever flavor).

Even then, the only other alternative that people consider is, as you said, we have to in some way help ourselves escape this place.

However, I don't particularly believe at all that we need to escape. Or that we'll be helped to escape. Or any of that.

Because I believe we volunteer to be here, out of sheerest love... the idea of needing to leave before it's all done is kind of like saying you're going to leave your family because being in one is too much work.

Which of course, some people have told me means that I'll trap myself here post-2012 and have to incarnate and suffer for another thousand years and all that stuff.

Anyway, the appeal of escape to the masses is unmistakable. This more than anything else features in almost EVERY SINGLE RELIGION from scientoloty, to the judaic-based religions, to eastern mysticism of every kind I am currently aware of.

It is even more universal, this escape idea, than the concept of there being a god at all-- for several of the eastern mysticisms don't teach of a god so much as a 'force' or 'order.'

But they all teach escape...

Sandi that is some serious thought out stuff right there.It all sounds good but still leaves me one question.You say that we chose to be here out of sheer love.Then why does a muderer , rapist, or the people that do SRA come here?