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Bush Orders Border Patrol to STAND DOWN

 
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Homeland security at it´s finest!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Traitors, plain and simple
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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This is treasonous.

IMPEACH BUSH!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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STAND DOWN

OXYMORAN
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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they just dont like anything that would show up their incompetence. Its like the NHS in the UK, they wont take donations from National Lottery because that would prove they are skint and desperate and need help.
Zorro
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Yo pido trabajo.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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The last time the ´guvmint´ got involved in our part of the border, they shot to death an 18 year old goat herder, while herding his goats and carrying a rifle. Guess we need to be on high alert.
the thinker
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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What may be in the works or hidden plan by our Shadow Government is to get another War started, perhaps issue a draft then we will have hardly any military left to defend the USA from the illegal immigrants inside the USA. Its as if this is all by design to have them here so when the carnage begins our military will be off in foreign Countries not here to protect our Country.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Where´s the media reporter with the balls to flat out ask Bush why he is not securing our border and is in fact allowing it to be an open gate.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Kind like your house is burning down but you don´t want the volunteer fire department helping to put it out because it may save your house from burning to the ground.


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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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IMO, Bush is purposely trying to pisss off Americans. The question is why? What is his real agenda?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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It´s TREASON!
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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we need new government by whatever means will achieve new government that is not beholden to the banks or special interests but to the good of the people that live in this nation.
The Roman
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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He need them to enlist them on the army since not many want to take this job anymore. Your army is full of mexicans already, since they have given the right to have the citizenship after having served in the army.

maybe..
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Welcome to the American Union. Get used to it.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Goodbye America, it was nice knowing you.
AC V1.0
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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"More than a dozen agents, all of whom asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said orders relayed by Border Patrol supervisors at the Naco, Ariz., station made it clear that arrests were "not to go up" along the 23-mile section of border that the volunteers monitored to protest illegal immigration.
"It was clear to everyone here what was being said and why," said one veteran agent. "The apprehensions were not to increase after the Minuteman volunteers left. It was as simple as that."
Another agent said the Naco supervisors "were clear in their intention" to keep new arrests to an "absolute minimum" to offset the effect of the Minuteman vigil, adding that patrols along the border have been severely limited.
Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar at the agency´s Washington headquarters called the accusations "outright wrong," saying that supervisors at the Naco station had not blocked agents from making arrests and that the station´s 350 agents were being "supported in carrying out" their duties.
"Border Patrol agents are the front line of defense against terrorism," Chief Aguilar said, adding that the 11,000 agents nationwide are "meeting that challenge, head-on ... as daunting a task as that may sound."
The chief -- a former head of the agency´s Tucson sector, which includes the Naco station -- said that with the world watching the Arizona border because of the Minuteman Project, agents in Naco "demonstrated flexibility and resilience in carrying out their critical homeland security duties and responsibilities."
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OP-

WHERE in the preceding text does it mention GWB, or even Washington, DC for that matter?

Reading & Comprehension, it´s NOT overrated!

Here´s your sign : :dumbass:
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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I was wondering the same thing AC. Where is Bush or his administration mentioned anywhere in this article.?


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12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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So FUCKTOID, you would have us believe that the BP Superiors took it upon themselves to issue those orders? YOU are the dumb ass if you think anyone will believe that.
Rastifar
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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for those wondering, here´s the link.

[link to www.washtimes.com]
salimandr nli
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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so the minutemen did a good job, congratulations to them! and sorry that others have been told to "stand down" by their superiors. it´s a pity to create possible problems simply because you don´t want to "look bad".

"Mr. Tancredo, chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus, blamed the Bush administration for setting an immigration enforcement tone that suggests to those enforcing the law that he is not serious about secure borders.
"We need to get the president to come to grips with the seriousness of the problem," he said. "I know he doesn´t like to utter the words, ´I was wrong,´ but if we have another incident like September 11 by people who came through our borders without permission, I hope he doesn´t have to say ´I´m sorry.´ "

no worry, bush wouldn´t say he´s sorry, he´d blame the border patrol.
Anonymous Coward
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WHY would the BP Biggies order a stand down? THEY take their orders from the WH just like the military does.

I´m fucking fed up with you nazibots trying to say Bush isn´t responsible for anything. You motherfuckers keep mewling that "he´s the president, he´s the president" while at the same time claiming the motherfucker isn´t responsible for the GOD DAMNED MESS he´s made out of this country.
Anonymous Coward
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C´mon, 258....tell us how you REALLY feel! lol...hey, I´m with ya, you just said it SO WELL!
AC V1.0
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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AC 258-

Since you clearly are more intelligent (as evidenced by your extensive vocabulary) than the average GLP Poster), I will defer to your superior intellect and change my opinion on this matter. Thank you for pointing out my obvious misunderstanding and comprehension of the text of the article, which I have read in it´s entirety multiple times today....

Here´s your sign : :dumbass:






(sarcasm intended)
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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How I and 10 MILLION other armed and angry Americans feel is that ASSASSINATIONS are in order. We can´t VOTE the bastards out. Congress, the Senate, and Judiciary is as guilty of TREASON as Bush, so WHAT ARE our options?

Civil War is imminent. If anyone doesn´t believe that, then they´d better keep their heads firmly planted in their assholes!
Anonymous Coward
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Here´s documented evidence of MORE Bush TREASON. Stick this up there next to your heads nazibots and ROTATE your faggot assholes around this.


Indignation Grows in US over British Prewar Documents
By John Daniszewski
The Los Angeles Times

Thursday 12 May 2005

Critics of Bush call them proof that he and Blair never saw diplomacy as an option with Hussein.

London - Reports in the British press this month based on documents indicating that President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair had conditionally agreed by July 2002 to invade Iraq appear to have blown over quickly in Britain.

But in the United States, where the reports at first received scant attention, there has been growing indignation among critics of the Bush White House, who say the documents help prove that the leaders made a secret decision to oust Iraqi President Saddam Hussein nearly a year before launching their attack, shaped intelligence to that aim and never seriously intended to avert the war through diplomacy.

The documents, obtained by Michael Smith, a defense specialist writing for the Sunday Times of London, include a memo of the minutes of a meeting July 23, 2002, between Blair and his intelligence and military chiefs; a briefing paper for that meeting and a Foreign Office legal opinion prepared before an April 2002 summit between Blair and Bush in Texas.

The picture that emerges from the documents is of a British government convinced of the US desire to go to war and Blair´s agreement to it, subject to several specific conditions.

Since Smith´s report was published May 1, Blair´s Downing Street office has not disputed the documents´ authenticity. Asked about them Wednesday, a Blair spokesman said the report added nothing significant to the much-investigated record of the lead-up to the war.

"At the end of the day, nobody pushed the diplomatic route harder than the British government.... So the circumstances of this July discussion very quickly became out of date," said the spokesman, who asked not to be identified.

The leaked minutes sum up the July 23 meeting, at which Blair, top security advisors and his attorney general discussed Britain´s role in Washington´s plan to oust Hussein. The minutes, written by Matthew Rycroft, a foreign policy aide, indicate general thoughts among the participants about how to create a political and legal basis for war. The case for military action at the time was "thin," Foreign Minister Jack Straw was characterized as saying, and Hussein´s government posed little threat.

Labeled "secret and strictly personal - UK eyes only," the minutes begin with the head of the British intelligence service, MI6, who is identified as "C," saying he had returned from Washington, where there had been a "perceptible shift in attitude. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and [weapons of mass destruction]. But the intelligence and the facts were being fixed around the policy."

Straw agreed that Bush seemed determined to act militarily, although the timing was not certain.

"But the case was thin," the minutes say. "Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capacity was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."

Straw then proposed to "work up a plan for an ultimatum to Saddam" to permit United Nations weapons inspectors back into Iraq. "This would also help with the legal justification for the use of force," he said, according to the minutes.

Blair said, according to the memo, "that it would make a big difference politically and legally if Saddam refused to allow in the UN inspectors."

"If the political context were right, people would support regime change," Blair said. "The two key issues were whether the military plan worked and whether we had the political strategy to give the military plan the space to work."

In addition to the minutes, the Sunday Times report referred to a Cabinet briefing paper that was given to participants before the July 23 meeting. It stated that Blair had already promised Bush cooperation earlier, at the April summit in Texas.

"The UK would support military action to bring about regime change," the Sunday Times quoted the briefing as saying.

Excerpts from the paper, which Smith provided to the Los Angeles Times, said Blair had listed conditions for war, including that "efforts had been made to construct a coalition/shape public opinion, the Israel-Palestine crisis was quiescent," and options to "eliminate Iraq´s WMD through the UN weapons inspectors" had been exhausted.

The briefing paper said the British government should get the US to put its military plans in a "political framework."

"This is particularly important for the UK because it is necessary to create the conditions in which we could legally support military action," it says.

In a letter to Bush last week, 89 House Democrats expressed shock over the documents. They asked if the papers were authentic and, if so, whether they proved that the White House had agreed to invade Iraq months before seeking Congress´ OK.

"If the disclosure is accurate, it raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of our own administration," the letter says.

"While the president of the United States was telling the citizens and the Congress that they had no intention to start a war with Iraq, they were working very close with Tony Blair and the British leadership at making this a foregone conclusion," the letter´s chief author, Rep. John Conyers Jr. of Michigan, said Wednesday.

If the documents are real, he said, it is "a huge problem" in terms of an abuse of power. He said the White House had not yet responded to the letter.

Both Blair and Bush have denied that a decision on war was made in early 2002. The White House and Downing Street maintain that they were preparing for military operations as an option, but that the option to not attack also remained open until the war began March 20, 2003.

In January 2002, Bush described Iraq as a member of an "axis of evil," but the sustained White House push for Iraqi compliance with UN resolutions did not come until September of that year. That month, Bush addressed the UN General Assembly to outline a case against Hussein´s government, and he sought a bipartisan congressional resolution authorizing the possible use of force.

In November 2002, the UN Security Council approved a resolution demanding that Iraq readmit weapons inspectors.

An effort to pass a second resolution expressly authorizing the use of force against Iraq did not succeed.



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Bush Asked to Explain UK War Memo
CNN News

Thursday 12 May 2005

Washington - Eighty-nine Democratic members of the US Congress last week sent President George W. Bush a letter asking for explanation of a secret British memo that said "intelligence and facts were being fixed" to support the Iraq war in mid-2002.

The timing of the memo was well before the president brought the issue to Congress for approval.

The Times of London newspaper published the memo - actually minutes of a high-level meeting on Iraq held July 23, 2002 - on May 1.

British officials did not dispute the document´s authenticity, and Michael Boyce, then Britain´s Chief of Defense Staff, told the paper that Britain had not then made a decision to follow the United States to war, but it would have been "irresponsible" not to prepare for the possibility.

The White House has not yet responded to queries about the congressional letter, which was released on May 6.

The letter, initiated by Rep. John Conyers, ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee, said the memo "raises troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war as well as the integrity of your own administration..."

"While various individuals have asserted this to be the case before, including Paul O´Neill, former US Treasury Secretary, and Richard Clarke, a former National Security Council official, they have been previously dismissed by your administration," the letter said.

But, the letter said, when the document was leaked Prime Minister Tony Blair´s spokesman called it "nothing new."

In addition to Blair, Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon, Attorney General Peter Goldsmith, MI6 chief Richard Dearlove and others attended the meeting.

A British official identified as "C" said that he had returned from a meeting in Washington and that "military action was now seen as inevitable" by US officials.

"Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.

"The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime´s record. There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action."

The memo further discussed the military options under consideration by the United States, along with Britain´s possible role.

It quoted Hoon as saying the United States had not finalized a timeline, but that it would likely begin "30 days before the US congressional elections," culminating with the actual attack in January 2003.

"It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided," the memo said.

"But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea or Iran."

The British officials determined to push for an ultimatum for Saddam to allow UN weapons inspectors back into Iraq to "help with the legal justification for the use of force ... despite US resistance."

Britain´s attorney general, Peter Goldsmith, advised the group that "the desire for regime change was not a legal base for military action" and two of three possible legal bases - self-defense and humanitarian intervention - could not be used.

The third was a UN Security Council resolution, which Goldsmith said "would be difficult."

Blair thought that "it would make a big difference politically and legally if Saddam refused to allow in the UN inspectors."

"If the political context were right, people would support regime change," the memo said.

Later, the memo said, Blair would work to convince Bush that they should pursue the ultimatum with Saddam even though "many in the US did not think it worth going down the ultimatum route."

[link to www.truthout.org]
Anonymous Coward
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TREASON IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Maybe you could educate us on your definition of "treason", enlighten us, oh "supreme one"
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:16 AM
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Get a DICTIONARY and educate yourself MORON.
Anonymous Coward
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more intelligent responses from "Mr Happy"...

we´re on the edge of chairs awaiting your next pithy posting.....

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