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63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!

 
Anonymous Coward
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not an accurate poll, but a pin none the less because we love to hate anything Obama does, amiright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 404824

Hm no you're wrong.

It's because the bill was written by the insurance corporations.
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05/24/2010 01:24 PM
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Rasmussen needs to be in the title of this wasted pin so readers stop wasting their time.
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Most of the other polls show pretty much the same thing. It just doesn't make sense to set up over a hundred new federal agencies just to give 10%-15% of taxpayers coverage. Most of the bill has nothing to do with health care and the few insurance fixes that are in it could have been passed in a one page bill.

Fact is it would have been far cheaper and less complicated if the government just gave every individual taxpayer a $500 per month subsidy/tax credit for a basic insurance premium and give the insurance companies one year to come up with a definition of just what that basic coverage is.
The lowest third of income tax individuals would get medicaid.

Similiarly, it would have been far cheaper if the federal government had just paid off all individual homeowner's mortgages for their primary residence with a guarantee that they would stay in the home for a certain number of years and could never get a home equity loan/second mortgage on the home. That certainly would have been far cheaper than bailing out the banks and investment companies which then refused to help mortgage holders.

Coming up is the energy bill which really will not do much to actually reduce our emissions and certainly will not stop the climate from changing as it always does every few hundred years.

It is all about control and power and money as it if you have a dollar, best be prepared to turn it over to the feds one way or another.
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propoganda
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INDEED! there is no such thing as an accurate poll. its trolling propoganda. yeah im sure 63% of the people in the republican areas they took the polls want a repeal...go figure. you can make a poll say anything. what a waste of time. stfu
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
As someone who pays for insurance for myself and my family, I am for the reform bill. The more people who pay for insurance the better it is for those of us who already pay for it.

So perhaps I am selfish, but beleive everyone should have insurance so those of us who do, dont have to fit the bill on all the cheap asses.

SInce the majority of people in this country are too cheap to get insurance but will buy a $50,000 car. Im sure that mandated coverage is not popular.
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05/24/2010 02:05 PM
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Rasmussen needs to be in the title of this wasted pin so readers stop wasting their time.
 Quoting: bio major


Right, it's not like they've been the most accurate polling organization in the last several national elections.

Oh wait, they have.

Maybe we should listen to the chronically wrong and skewed NYT polls instead?
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05/24/2010 02:12 PM
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do you know what Rasmussen is?

It's the polling arm of Fox news

However some of us have a brain in our head and we realize that Fox news is nothing but lies and propaganda

 Quoting: lapis lazuli 925845


Please find ANY poll where the majority of Americans want ObamaCare.

You're full of shit.

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05/24/2010 02:19 PM
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Did you know that 64% of statistics are made up? Yep and
another 90% of other numbers cant be trusted.
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Gallup six weeks ago was accurate, 45% said it was a good thing 49% said it wasn't.. that's a far cry from 63%.
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Gallup six weeks ago was accurate, 45% said it was a good thing 49% said it wasn't.. that's a far cry from 63%.

 Quoting: bio major


First of all, I question your logic on the "accuracy" of any poll from Gallup.

Secondly, that was a WEEK (March 29) after ObamaCare was passed and people still were unsure
as to what was in that piece of shit Bill -- [link to www.gallup.com]

Six weeks is a fucking eternity in the world of politics ...
especially now that people are learning what is -- and is NOT -- in ObamaCare.

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The more people become informed of the actual bilK and what it will do to our country, the more people will want it repealed



No review(opposed to Veteran who have the RIGHT TO REVIEW)...fines and imprisonment...businesses collapsing, families being torn apart...treatments restricted or denied...and constant RED TAPE








Few that support it as it sits HAVE EVER BEEN TO A FEDERAL FACILITY


It is too obvious their ignorance will be lifted once they see the monster electronic record with RFID tracking of ALL data....


MEDICAL

FINANCIAL
(real time access to your personal account whenever they want) They already can do this but are somewhat restricted.

LEGAL

PERSONAL FILE (your church, school, history, BEHAVIOR, etc)

ALL purchases and sales


"TO BUY OR SELL..."

restricting ANYONE who opposes their RFID tattoo or chip-like cattle or swine...or PROPERTY


They are headed to he11-why follow that???
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05/24/2010 02:43 PM
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Most likely, it is only 63% of americans who are also presently employed and not on SSI etc.
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05/24/2010 02:52 PM
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
I want it repealed.
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Gallup six weeks ago was accurate, 45% said it was a good thing 49% said it wasn't.. that's a far cry from 63%.



First of all, I question your logic on the "accuracy" of any poll from Gallup.

Secondly, that was a WEEK (March 29) after ObamaCare was passed and people still were unsure
as to what was in that piece of shit Bill -- [link to www.gallup.com]

Six weeks is a fucking eternity in the world of politics ...
especially now that people are learning what is -- and is NOT -- in ObamaCare.

.
 Quoting: Bugbomb 832050



Your over reacting, there is no way the American people can judge this new Act of Congress until the thing is fully implemented which won't take place intil 2014.

You watch FOX and Hannity way to often...
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Your over reacting, there is no way the American people can judge this new Act of Congress until the thing is fully implemented which won't take place intil 2014.

You watch FOX and Hannity way to often...
 Quoting: bio major


Can't have an opinion about a pit of shit until you're neck deep in it, eh?

No thanks, I know a shitpit when I see one.
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
The more people become informed of the actual bilK and what it will do to our country, the more people will want it repealed
 Quoting: ShadowDancer


"WHAT IT WILL DO TO OUR COUNTRY" OH YEAH

like, eight headed dragons will rise from the seas and eat united states up starting from texas.

its a fucking social security bill that mandates healthcare insurance which is something RATIONALLY someone should have in a modern g5 country. and it was brought by democratically elected representatives of the people through a democratic mechanism.

dont sweat it. just say "i dont want to pay a few hundred bucks a year" and "i cant stomach losing an election" and everyone will understand.
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Thread: ObamaCare to Destroy White Castle Hamburgers.
Bugbomb
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05/24/2010 03:09 PM
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Your over reacting, there is no way the American people can judge this new Act of Congress until the thing is fully implemented which won't take place intil 2014.

You watch FOX and Hannity way to often...

 Quoting: bio major


I don't need to wait four years to find out a shit sandwich
prepared by Congress in April 2010 will still taste like a
shit sandwich in 2014. And neither does the majority of the
American people.

And you watch Tweety and MSNBC way too often, fucktard.

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05/24/2010 03:09 PM
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LOL! Did what I say go totally go right over your head?

The point I'm making is that this 63% number cannot be trusted. It's just something they made up. It's fudged, it's dishonest, like everything else on that news channel

What you personally believe or what your personal opinion is has nothing to do with whatever lie Fox news comes up with today. The two aren't related
 Quoting: lapis lazuli 925845


So you are saying that the 63% number is obviously in error and is actually higher?
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05/24/2010 03:11 PM
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63 % have decent health care and the other 37 % can fuck off and die is more like it
Anonymous Coward
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05/24/2010 03:14 PM
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
This bill gives government far too much power.

It is none of the government's business how I choose to pay for health care.

Now, I can and will be fined and even potentially imprisoned for choosing to be self-insured.

WTF? Is this the USSR?
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05/24/2010 03:15 PM
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
do you know what Rasmussen is?

It's the polling arm of Fox news

Fox news

Did you get that?

This is nothing more than Fox news propaganda

Now if that doesn't bother you by all means go ahead and believe it and report it as true.

However some of us have a brain in our head and we realize that Fox news is nothing but lies and propaganda
 Quoting: lapis lazuli 925845


Wrong again. Rasmussen is THE most accurate poll out there.

research, fool.
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
All I got to say is when they lose their job that is coddling their ass with benefits, and pay for their own health care, they may actually look at the 1993 Republican health care reform that was passed as very important. sheep

Last Edited by Dirtfarmer on 05/24/2010 03:20 PM
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Your over reacting, there is no way the American people can judge this new Act of Congress until the thing is fully implemented which won't take place intil 2014.

 Quoting: bio major


Any American, who is honest and hard working, that reads this pos legislation can indeed judge it.
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Your over reacting, there is no way the American people can judge this new Act of Congress until the thing is fully implemented which won't take place intil 2014.

You watch FOX and Hannity way to often...



I don't need to wait four years to find out a shit sandwich
prepared by Congress in April 2010 will still taste like a
shit sandwich in 2014. And neither does the majority of the
American people.

And you watch Tweety and MSNBC way too often, fucktard.

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 Quoting: Bugbomb 832050



Once the law is fully implemented overall healthcare costs will decrease, as is needed. The reason we are all paying more and more for HC insurance and out of pocket hospital bills is because a high percentage of hospital patients receive care for free (mostly in emergency rooms), and there is little healthcare dollar competition.

In time all patients will have coverage forcing healthcare and insurance providers to be competitive, competition lowers cost in a capitalistic economy.. I suggest CNN as the primary provider of accurate news information as well.
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
All I got to say is when they lose their job that is coddling their ass with benefits, and pay for their own health care, they may actually look at the 1993 Republican health care reform that was passed as very important. sheep
 Quoting: Dirtfarmer

Heck, they might even look at Ted Kennedy's HMO Act of 1973 and discover that they created the problem of expensive health coverage purposely.
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Rasmussen pollsters are even used by the China government because they have mastered the art of polling propaganda.

It's bascially an arm of the FOX News (propaganda) network.
 Quoting: bio major

Um........ bsflag
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Once the law is fully implemented overall healthcare costs will decrease, as is needed.
 Quoting: bio major

laugh

I want some of what you're smoking.
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
Your over reacting, there is no way the American people can judge this new Act of Congress until the thing is fully implemented which won't take place intil 2014.

You watch FOX and Hannity way to often...



I don't need to wait four years to find out a shit sandwich
prepared by Congress in April 2010 will still taste like a
shit sandwich in 2014. And neither does the majority of the
American people.

And you watch Tweety and MSNBC way too often, fucktard.

.



Once the law is fully implemented overall healthcare costs will decrease, as is needed. The reason we are all paying more and more for HC insurance and out of pocket hospital bills is because a high percentage of hospital patients receive care for free (mostly in emergency rooms), and there is little healthcare dollar competition.

In time all patients will have coverage forcing healthcare and insurance providers to be competitive, competition lowers cost in a capitalistic economy.. I suggest CNN as the primary provider of accurate news information as well.
 Quoting: bio major

Health care law's massive, hidden tax change
[link to money.cnn.com]
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Re: 63% Favor Repeal of National Health Care Plan!
As someone who pays for insurance for myself and my family, I am for the reform bill. The more people who pay for insurance the better it is for those of us who already pay for it.

So perhaps I am selfish, but beleive everyone should have insurance so those of us who do, dont have to fit the bill on all the cheap asses.

SInce the majority of people in this country are too cheap to get insurance but will buy a $50,000 car. Im sure that mandated coverage is not popular.
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Ah yes, as he hits the nail on the head.
How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
Adolf Hitler

When the government fears the people there is liberty; when the people fear the government there is tyranny.
Thomas Jefferson

"Expose yourself to your deepest fear; after that, fear has no power, and the fear of freedom shrinks and vanishes. You are free." Jim Morrison

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