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Oil FAIL: Major Bad Changes Deep Below...

 
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It's about time that we get wiped off earth.
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Everytime I look at the cam I see BP specialists working like crazy to stopp the spill.

Looks to me they are really taking this seriously. It is good know that this catastrophy is being taken care of by a competant and caring company like BP.

I can't wait my car is running empty to fill her up at the next BB station.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958271


Nothing they are doing nothing to stop it !

I think BP is focusing his energy into the defense of the lawsuites which are gonna take place.

The oil spill and the coast means shit for them.

BP makes almost 20 billion a year, after paying all the taxes.
The cost of this little incident is nothing for them.

They don't care.

All they do is spilling chemicals into the hole, preventing the oil to surface. They hope that the oil eventually either stays hidden or is being moved out into the ocean by the currents.

They are gonna drill another hole in august, which should reduce the spill (so they say).

Somebody just has reduced the US mexican coast to a moon landscape and these same people are gonna keep on drilling on the same coast.

Why don't you vote BP into the white house. Ahh because they already sit there.
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Got a news flash for you. About 30,000feet below the sea floor is a pool of gas and oil they say is the size of Mt Everest. The blithering idiots at BP drilled a nice steel lined hole somewhere around 10inches (maybe as big as 20inches) in diameter into that highly pressurized area. The pressure at the outlet of that hole near the sea floor..is a MINIMUM of about 14,000 pounds per square inch. (basic physics enables that calculation) The pressure could be much higher... some have said as high as 100,000psi but I am going with around 30,000. The equipment they had on the sea floor was only rated at about 15,000psi. First stupid mistake other than drilling the well into that reservoir from an offshore platform in the first place. So no matter whether you are on the sea floor..or in a 300ft deep crater on the sea floor, you have a relatively small pipe with HUGE pressure behind it.

There is nothing you can fill that crater with that will stop a flow at that much pressure. So what will happen if it is not stopped is that it will flow until the pressure above and below is equalized.. and water will flow down into the well where the temperature is over 400 degrees... it will turn into steam and who knows what will happen after that.

I believe the only option is to drill a hole about 3 or 4 thousand feet deep next to the existing well.. have the military put a low yield nuclear device at the bottom...seal off the hole above it and detonate it. That will shatter the surrounding rock, collapse the out of control well next to it and stop the flow. The Russians have done it 5 times successfully.
 Quoting: expat2368


The pressure at the seafloor will basically be the same in a 21" riser or 100 foot pool, you just won't have that cool jetting effect like your nozzle on the garden hose. Turn it on full without the nozzle, and a nice steady stream runs out. Put the nozzle on, less water comes out, but bigger show...

As for killing this thing, it is a physics calc, but it also requires knowing where the fluid is travelling. Best case, it originates low in the main production string. That allows us the best chance to pump enough mud to equalize pressure. Really, the best way to do this would be straight down the BOP. Cut the riser off the top, run in with a bullet shaped pumpoff sub, and start tripping in 4" pipe. Get downhole, and start pumping heavy mud, the flowing well will cirulate the mud, you just have to pump faster. Lots of mud, lots of horsepower, but doable.

BTW, water will not boil at 400 degrees at insitu pressures (thermodynamics)
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Why were they drilling down this deep if they didn't have solid plans to deal with a blowout down there? Arrogance.
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Bribery. Greed. Non-regulation similar to the finance industry. Now the immense losses will be socialized...socialism...where everybody picks up the tab for the wealthy.

Private capitalism of the wealthy few for profits (they don't pay taxes) and socializing (socialism) the losses so that everybody pays for their ... bribery and greed.
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Forgive us, Father, we know not what we've done!
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forgive ya?...l'ma five give ya ,with my mighty hand upside the back of your head ..ya dumb fucks....

YOU'VE RELEASED THE KRACKEN.....your screwed.
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I truly hope and pray this destroys the world's oceanic ecosystems and in turn destroys humanity completely.

It is time for God to destroy us as an unworthy incompetent bumbling foolish species. Kill us all and start over again. We do not deserve to exist because all we do is harm the Earth. We are a parasite that is killing its host, and we're too arrogant and egocentric to notice or even care.
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GEEZ!!!

TALK ABOUT A SELF HATING HUMAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The idea of the foam (again this is just conceptual; I don't know that such a product exists, but I don't know of a principled reason why it could not) is that it could set in the upper part of the crater, once the fluid flow has spread out somewhat, decompressed, and perhaps even gotten clogged somewhat by methane hydrate crystals that form as temperature and pressure drop.

It's always easier to say nothing will work than to come up with ideas that might. Mine probably won't work either, but I have hope.
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If foam had a chance of working than concrete could work also and it is already available.
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yes, this is what I keep telling all you freaks who keep saying "oh my God why doesn't Obama do something! He is so horrible!"

Truth is the situation is worse than you have imagined, and nobody, absolutely NOBODY, knows what to do about it

This is totally unprecedented, totally unforeseen, and we are all pretty much clueless as how to solve this problem

Yes, many BP executives and workers should go to jail for the multitude of criminally negligent acts surrounding this gusher

However, none of that will solve the actual problem we are facing right now.
 Quoting: lapis lazuli 925845


UNFORSEEN!!! UNFORSEEN? You're kidding right?
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It appears now that we might experience a global catastrophe similar to Krakatoa, but in slow motion and from a different direction.

After six more months of unabated flow, global effects similar to Toba are not out of the question.

Have a nice day...
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If foam had a chance of working than concrete could work also and it is already available.
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Is that right? How do we know that? Is concrete better than possible resin-like foam materials?
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Maybe it's time to ask the Russians for help since they were able to plug up a couple of things they messed up.
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Major Change Down Below... Live Blogging...

view sources:

[link to www.correntewire.com]

[link to monkeyfister.blogspot.com]


One poster writes:

If the riser has failed and oil and gas are short-circuiting around the annulus of the borehole, this already bad situation will get a thousand-fold worse in a very short period of time. What will happen is the rushing fluids will erode the borehole, transporting the soft sea-floor sediments away, creating a giant 300-foot deep crater down to the point of failure. This will further decrease the back-pressure (restriction on the pressure) and as that eases the flow-rate will increase, further eroding what is left of the borehole casing. It is a very vicious circle.

This isn't uneducated conjecture, it is based on my experience with flowing wells.

I think very few people have any idea how bad this will get. The damage that is imminent is actually worse than in your worst imaginings. It's quite possible that the entire eco-system of the Gulf of Mexico may collapse.



Is there any other news about a new MAJOR eruption?

That`s not the worst i imagined and certainly not worse than it.
I was hoping for a global doom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 792493


LOL ME TOO. BLOOD LIKE RAIN FALL DOWN redface
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Does anyone remember the weird poster a few weeks ago who kept saying, "After May 23rd, nothing will matter?"
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OF COURSE...ANGELS AND DEMONS CAN TYPE, AND YOU SHOULD SEE THEIR ARTWORK !
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How much oil and gas is this reservoir estimated to hold?
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I think the aliens could help us out on this one
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How much oil and gas is this reservoir estimated to hold?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 980243


The caldera is estimated to be the size of Mt. Everest...spewing natural gas, oil, and methane under immense pressure.

After weeks of activity, only the summit of this mountain would be affected.
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yes, this is what I keep telling all you freaks who keep saying "oh my God why doesn't Obama do something! He is so horrible!"

Truth is the situation is worse than you have imagined, and nobody, absolutely NOBODY, knows what to do about it

This is totally unprecedented, totally unforeseen, and we are all pretty much clueless as how to solve this problem

Yes, many BP executives and workers should go to jail for the multitude of criminally negligent acts surrounding this gusher

However, none of that will solve the actual problem we are facing right now.
 Quoting: lapis lazuli 925845



clappa
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Maybe it's time to ask the Russians for help since they were able to plug up a couple of things they messed up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323774


Using a nuke?

What about a methane explosion?

...could be dangerous!



But they are looking into it though:

Barack Obama sends nuclear experts to tackle BP's Gulf of Mexico oil leak.

The US has sent a team of nuclear physicists to help BP plug the "catastrophic" flow of oil into the Gulf of Mexico from its leaking Deepwater Horizon well, as the Obama administration becomes frustrated with the oil giant's inability to control the situation.

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk] -experts-to-tackle-BPs-Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-leak.html
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this is Armegeddon
 Quoting: solaluna



Pandora's box

or the

Key to the Bottomless Pit?
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this is Armegeddon



Pandora's box

or the

Key to the Bottomless Pit?
 Quoting: Virtual 2012

Certainly fits the shoe....

Next will be scenes from Deepstar Six....damned
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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AND SO IT BEGINS!!!
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AND LET ME REPEAT, "SO IT BEGINS!!!"

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rev 11:18

New Living Translation (©2007)
The nations were filled with wrath, but now the time of your wrath has come. It is time to judge the dead and reward your servants the prophets, as well as your holy people, and all who fear your name, from the least to the greatest. It is time to destroy all who have caused destruction on the earth."



ut oh
 Quoting: SpaceGhost



Yep, our Creator will not put up with this much longer. We are on our way to making this earth uninhabitable and he is not going to let that happen.
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"But we do know it was us that scorched the sky."
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Maybe it's time to ask the Russians for help since they were able to plug up a couple of things they messed up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323774



Unfortunately they have never nuked a well 5000' ft under water.

And in fact, I don't think they've ever nuked a well that was in any water.
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ya, we're fucked.




I wish we knew how much oil was actually down there.
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How much oil and gas is this reservoir estimated to hold?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 980243



It's huge, here is a research paper from back in 2001 discussing this oilfield, they didn't have a clue about how to drill in this ultra deep oil field...still don't.

[link to leanenergy.ldeo.columbia.edu]
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If they blow a nuke that deep, the UK will be wiped out.
Just imagine that Tsunami of a nuke down there.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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If they blow a nuke that deep, the UK will be wiped out.
Just imagine that Tsunami of a nuke down there.
 Quoting: SomeGermanDude


What...cause the gulf will focus it like an echo chamber? damned
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."

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