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Does anyone else "see the ETHER" ???

 
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Yes, I can too. They jetson around in different aggravated or relaxed states. It is like seeing the fabric of the ether. I guess these little guys carry the brunt of the information sent around wirelessly is my fear.


Thats how I began to view it.


The Plasma?

[link to www.plasma-universe.com]


No. Aether and Plasma are two totally different concepts.
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Ah, I see.
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After about half a year of deep prayer and meditation. And one experience where I basically got "zapped" by an electro-magnetic force (I saw a light over everyone's head for about a day). No lie, the electricity in my house was going bat shit crazy, like a continuous power surge. The light in my room grew brighter and brighter, until it enveloped me.

A couple of other experiences, are when reading the Bible in a deep meditative state, the letters start sparkling like diamonds and flying of the page, re-arranging, images and messages appear in the white space between the letters on the pages. I have realized something has changed in my vision. Another experience where I kept getting "yanked" out of my body all night (but I would snap back in to my body), and basically couldn't fall asleep, the next morning I thought my wife was waving her hands over me. She was not. Basically, I can tap into the spiritual at will.

I have been doing research and have come to the conclusion, that I have somehow "initiated" myself into the mysteries.

Now,

1. I consistently see a bright "singularity" in the middle of my field of vision, I noticed it appears when I speak to certain people or when I think certain thoughts or read certain material. It is kind of like a truth beacon.

2. I see white whisps flying around, usually out of the corner of my eye, but sometimes directly in front of me as well. If I read certain books, even in the OT the white whisps become black whisps.

3. Sometimes for no good reason, my field of vision is absolutely covered with sparks of light, they appear to be flying around every where, doing nose dives, melting with each other, gathering around certain objects and people. Sometimes they gather around my head, and do synchronized dives in a circle around me.

Beleive it or not, I am actually a pretty rational person, with rational beliefs, a BA, a good job, mortgage, wife - I am just trying to figure what has "happened" to me. I have found some clues in eastern religion, old christian mysticism, and jewish mysticism. But really no solid answers. And honestly sometimes, I dont want to see the ETHER. I just want to be normal. I also get extremely intense dreams, and a pressure in the center of my forehead that feels like dripping water is leaking out of the space between my eyes.

Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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nuff said
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Yes, I can too. They jetson around in different aggravated or relaxed states. It is like seeing the fabric of the ether. I guess these little guys carry the brunt of the information sent around wirelessly is my fear.


Thats how I began to view it.


Cool and thanks also to the OP for starting this thread, I was thinking for a good 5 years now that maybe I really was whacked out!
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No you are not wacked out!
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nuff said
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To each his own brother.
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If you are serious, go to video.google.com search: meier protocols 1 of 8, and watch all of those... very long, lots of information, most of which may not apply to you. It is the best help I can give you.
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Hi, I watched the first 20 minutes. How does this tie into UFOs?
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Hey there brother! I too see the 'white wisps' and even the black wisps at times. They move ever so fast. My honest belief is that they are beings either monitoring, influencing, or attempting to manipulate us.


This is my personal experience, and mine alone, in that the 'white wisps' are usually docile in energy when I notice them. I always feel stable in my emotional balance when I notice them. However, with the 'dark wisps', the majority of them seem to try to get my attention and cause disruption in my emotional balance. When this happens, (this is hard to explain), its usually because I can feel or see their presence grow overwhelmingly: i.e. the black wisp grows into a menacing shadow. Infact, I have to become "unaware" of them or I cannot reattain my balance.

I remember those days when I got deep and personal with God and the bible. At the deepest harmonizing He led me to, the exact same thing happened as you described it. The pages of the bible began to glisten in a beacon light. It is pleasant to the eyes. The words seemed to 'shine' or 'radiate' with 'holy' energy. When studying in a closed room, like a closet, the whole room would, how do you say...overflow with this positive energy that I could literally see! I could liken it to someone filling a room with a gas, you would certainly see its effects. Most amazing experience in my life. I do hope to grasp again that deep connection.

Basically, no you are not insane. You have been called and chosen. Do not forget that. Do not forget your purpose.One of the things that has plagued mankind the most is his ability to forget things. ;)
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Yes.
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Don't see it, but something is sneaking up on me. After gradual changes, lately I am getting electrical pulses, even standing coursing though my body. Night before last I woke to a high pitch sound. This was in my head for I have lost hearing in the range for years. As soon as I listen to it, I went in and out mildly from my body, pretty neat actually. I could turn it off and on, just by paying it some attention. My wife heard nothing. Yesterday afternoon, she asked me what happened in the kitchen, I explained and remembered the frequency and immediately received the electrical pulsation standing there. Wonder where this is heading? I am also a rational educated and retired professional man.



I really dont know where it is heading? But I asked or prayed that the "door would be opened" and it happened. However, I cant control it. It's like my brain has permanently tuned into another frequency that is layered on top of this world. I know it has something to do with light, and electricity.
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I will be brief as I have written this before, fractionally.

TK I found is picked up by others being near me, in other words, what I do on this level others do as well when they come into my home. We learn, we awaken and we share and teach just by being.

Two-I had spiritual dreams of being out of body and going to another dimension, one having to leave a loved one whom was not ready, yet there were others in good cheer waiting to go through a gate, in my case heavy barbed wire which had held me back previously.

Later a dream of the future with a time span of 17 years. A world very much like in the 1800's. The world was clean and new, with very few people and those that were there were pretty fine folks, dressing up, making clothing and still collecting what is left over.

Later yet, without my wife knowing that I had written down this dream, she had the same dream, walking a quiet land, gathering what we needed from abandoned homes, meeting in the same town, seeing the women dressed the same as in my dream. Make of it what you will.

Then later, a few weeks ago, my wife gets the message that she may not be prepared to go wherever I was shown to go. In her case, we were above the clouds with some others, human but quite different than we. Light colored hair, tall, larger heads, very good condition and larger but round eyes. They illustrated the point by myself and them just making some quantum leap, leaving her behind due to her fear. This made her sad and fearful and she tried to get to us, with other urging her on. To her, this was not a dream and she told me several times, it was real, not a dream we were above this beautiful world looking down from the clouds. She wants to go back now.

I see nothing other than this, but real or not, it is kick ass fun to live like this, exciting like being in a wonderful novel, only living it. Can't wake for the next chapter. There is more, and I am doing what I am urged to do.
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What struck me about your post was the disillusionment with reality that accompanies this awakening. Luckily, I believe I have moved past this and have successfully integrated myself back into every day life, and have done with an overwhelming positivity!
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The detachment I talked about probably is not the same as your disillusionment. It's an observation I made.
See, this is a (one) Place of Learning; once we are done with it we move on (evolve/ascend or whatever). Case in point: look at the responses you have gotten you can easily deduct who has knowledge/knows and you doesn't. The ones that adhere to reasoning will fall behind as they have nothing learned/have nothing of their own. A good example is people trying to explain away what you, I or many others experience as brain tumor, specific 'sounds' as tinnitus, or just plain making fun of it.
We are all following a narrow path that we chose before birth. The crux here is that this knowledge is being replaced once one is ready to be filled with all the reason in this world, around age 2 or 3 LOL. Your choice of how much of what was planned is realized in the end determined by free or not so free will. Through life there are some hints 'reasonably' called deja-vu how close you are in what you wanted...
Sarcasm aside, unfortunately above individual paths are fast approaching a junction, some will go on, most will stay behind in 3D. The ones that move on will no longer need a 3D body. There is a transition, maybe without any noticeable changes to a world that is no longer just 3D. Few will live 3D here, most will be assigned to different 3D worlds.

This is probably a perspective a little bit different from yours. If you look for a Christian mystic Francis of Assisi comes to mind (I always liked him). OOBE if you want to read up on Robert Monroe's books make a good read.

Shouldn't you have already experienced it a simple truth: everything is connected, everything !!!


Take care
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I'm covered with ether.
I'm able to glow blue green at will.

I see atoms not floaters.

Many dimensions are merging here.
I am one with ectoplasm and ether.

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Hey there brother! I too see the 'white wisps' and even the black wisps at times. They move ever so fast. My honest belief is that they are beings either monitoring, influencing, or attempting to manipulate us.


This is my personal experience, and mine alone, in that the 'white wisps' are usually docile in energy when I notice them. I always feel stable in my emotional balance when I notice them. However, with the 'dark wisps', the majority of them seem to try to get my attention and cause disruption in my emotional balance. When this happens, (this is hard to explain), its usually because I can feel or see their presence grow overwhelmingly: i.e. the black wisp grows into a menacing shadow. Infact, I have to become "unaware" of them or I cannot reattain my balance.


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Greetings brother,

Luckily, the black wisps are/were extremely rare (I havent seen them since I "began"), they actually acted as signal to me, as to not tap into certain readings (Manly P Hall for instance), even certain prophets, such as Ezekiel. Of the two nights when I felt myself being yanked from body,and saw the black wisps, were after reading Ezekiel.
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The only reference I've found to what you are experiencing was from Mexican Shamans some years ago.

Just make sure you are aware of your Ego and that You are in control and not it.

Peace
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What struck me about your post was the disillusionment with reality that accompanies this awakening. Luckily, I believe I have moved past this and have successfully integrated myself back into every day life, and have done with an overwhelming positivity!


The detachment I talked about probably is not the same as your disillusionment. It's an observation I made.
See, this is a (one) Place of Learning; once we are done with it we move on (evolve/ascend or whatever). Case in point: look at the responses you have gotten you can easily deduct who has knowledge/knows and you doesn't. The ones that adhere to reasoning will fall behind as they have nothing learned/have nothing of their own. A good example is people trying to explain away what you, I or many others experience as brain tumor, specific 'sounds' as tinnitus, or just plain making fun of it.
We are all following a narrow path that we chose before birth. The crux here is that this knowledge is being replaced once one is ready to be filled with all the reason in this world, around age 2 or 3 LOL. Your choice of how much of what was planned is realized in the end determined by free or not so free will. Through life there are some hints 'reasonably' called deja-vu how close you are in what you wanted...
Sarcasm aside, unfortunately above individual paths are fast approaching a junction, some will go on, most will stay behind in 3D. The ones that move on will no longer need a 3D body. There is a transition, maybe without any noticeable changes to a world that is no longer just 3D. Few will live 3D here, most will be assigned to different 3D worlds.

This is probably a perspective a little bit different from yours. If you look for a Christian mystic Francis of Assisi comes to mind (I always liked him). OOBE if you want to read up on Robert Monroe's books make a good read.

Shouldn't you have already experienced it a simple truth: everything is connected, everything !!!


Take care
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Sorry I did not mean to put words in to your mouth, but I indeed felt aloof from my everyday life for a while after my experience.Not in a condescending way, albeit, but it was almost if the ignorance and shallowness of some of the people around me disappointed me. I thought that is what you were communicating.

But I agree with your other comments, everything is connected. Deja Vu, synchronizations of time/space, I actually had one when getting up after reading your reply. Duality has faded, the truth may be horrific to some but we have to choose where we place our energies.
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The only reference I've found to what you are experiencing was from Mexican Shamans some years ago.

Just make sure you are aware of your Ego and that You are in control and not it.

Peace
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Yes indeed.
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What struck me about your post was the disillusionment with reality that accompanies this awakening. Luckily, I believe I have moved past this and have successfully integrated myself back into every day life, and have done with an overwhelming positivity!


The detachment I talked about probably is not the same as your disillusionment. It's an observation I made.
See, this is a (one) Place of Learning; once we are done with it we move on (evolve/ascend or whatever). Case in point: look at the responses you have gotten you can easily deduct who has knowledge/knows and you doesn't. The ones that adhere to reasoning will fall behind as they have nothing learned/have nothing of their own. A good example is people trying to explain away what you, I or many others experience as brain tumor, specific 'sounds' as tinnitus, or just plain making fun of it.
We are all following a narrow path that we chose before birth. The crux here is that this knowledge is being replaced once one is ready to be filled with all the reason in this world, around age 2 or 3 LOL. Your choice of how much of what was planned is realized in the end determined by free or not so free will. Through life there are some hints 'reasonably' called deja-vu how close you are in what you wanted...
Sarcasm aside, unfortunately above individual paths are fast approaching a junction, some will go on, most will stay behind in 3D. The ones that move on will no longer need a 3D body. There is a transition, maybe without any noticeable changes to a world that is no longer just 3D. Few will live 3D here, most will be assigned to different 3D worlds.

This is probably a perspective a little bit different from yours. If you look for a Christian mystic Francis of Assisi comes to mind (I always liked him). OOBE if you want to read up on Robert Monroe's books make a good read.

Shouldn't you have already experienced it a simple truth: everything is connected, everything !!!


Take care
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Like the way you put this. If logic prevails, then you may as well hang it up: no fun in that. Detachment is a fact, you become calm, but attentive and considerate and loving, but not really into what was once important, for it seems unreal and one knows it is but a charade played while here. I was even urged to fix a joint (hip)not weed, for I would need to be strong for a few years, why? Who cares, for the novel is being written as I live. As a retired sci. teacher, I just put to rest what I knew, or part of it and go for the ride. Nice thing about being human, it's ok to be wrong and being older, not really important to be right, therefore freedom.
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Like the way you put this. If logic prevails, then you may as well hang it up: no fun in that. Detachment is a fact, you become calm, but attentive and considerate and loving, but not really into what was once important, for it seems unreal and one knows it is but a charade played while here. I was even urged to fix a joint (hip)not weed, for I would need to be strong for a few years, why? Who cares, for the novel is being written as I live. As a retired sci. teacher, I just put to rest what I knew, or part of it and go for the ride. Nice thing about being human, it's ok to be wrong and being older, not really important to be right, therefore freedom.
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i think this is a key spiritual truth, you are in the world, but not of the world.
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Its not detachment, though at first it might seem so. Here is a reply I gave in another post...and it was today...beautiful synchronicity...

This can get fairly deep, but I won't get into the depth here as it can get really detailed.

You do have a spirit self, it is the one that lies beyond the veil. It is still you...this spirit self, and your physical self are all there, all the time, but it is where your consciousness is focused that depends on what state you are in, or what state you can percieve.

Much that happens in the spiritual state (obe's, astral, dreaming, lucid dreaming, deep trance meditation, etc) is very difficult for your physical consciousness to interpret. So, dreams are hard to remember, OBEs, etc., even though we go through the process every night.

There is a disconnect from your physical body that happens when you enter altered states. Your consciousness does travel, in a sense, outside your body...in reality, it is much different than this, but it helps in explanations like this. (Reality does not have an inside outside, up down. It is your consciousness that percieves it to have these 'directions')

The trick is to have multiple states of consciousness active at the same time. That is the trick. It is not to 'exit' your body, but it is for your physical consciousness to still be active and aware while you begin and enter other states.
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Like the way you put this. If logic prevails, then you may as well hang it up: no fun in that. Detachment is a fact, you become calm, but attentive and considerate and loving, but not really into what was once important, for it seems unreal and one knows it is but a charade played while here. I was even urged to fix a joint (hip)not weed, for I would need to be strong for a few years, why? Who cares, for the novel is being written as I live. As a retired sci. teacher, I just put to rest what I knew, or part of it and go for the ride. Nice thing about being human, it's ok to be wrong and being older, not really important to be right, therefore freedom.



i think this is a key spiritual truth, you are in the world, but not of the world.
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You are in the world and of the world. There is no separation. There is only different perceptions of where your at.
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Like the way you put this. If logic prevails, then you may as well hang it up: no fun in that. Detachment is a fact, you become calm, but attentive and considerate and loving, but not really into what was once important, for it seems unreal and one knows it is but a charade played while here. I was even urged to fix a joint (hip)not weed, for I would need to be strong for a few years, why? Who cares, for the novel is being written as I live. As a retired sci. teacher, I just put to rest what I knew, or part of it and go for the ride. Nice thing about being human, it's ok to be wrong and being older, not really important to be right, therefore freedom.



i think this is a key spiritual truth, you are in the world, but not of the world.


You are in the world and of the world. There is no separation. There is only different perceptions of where your at.
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i think the human paradox, whether culturally learned or innate is feeling a separateness at the same time. but melding body, spirit, and soul is key.
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The trick is to have multiple states of consciousness active at the same time. That is the trick. It is not to 'exit' your body, but it is for your physical consciousness to still be active and aware while you begin and enter other states.
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YES! I experience what could be called black outs, or deep trance states while praying or meditating. It's missing time.
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The trick is to have multiple states of consciousness active at the same time. That is the trick. It is not to 'exit' your body, but it is for your physical consciousness to still be active and aware while you begin and enter other states.


YES! I experience what could be called black outs, or deep trance states while praying or meditating. It's missing time.
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This is what most mystics of today are teaching wrongly. We are not leaving our body, we are changing our awareness.
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The trick is to have multiple states of consciousness active at the same time. That is the trick. It is not to 'exit' your body, but it is for your physical consciousness to still be active and aware while you begin and enter other states.


YES! I experience what could be called black outs, or deep trance states while praying or meditating. It's missing time.


This is what most mystics of today are teaching wrongly. We are not leaving our body, we are changing our awareness.
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I have never left my body, nor have the desire too, however during these prayerful black outs, I think information is embedded. A little off the original topic.
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Another thing you mentioned, dreams. Yes indeed! I was told I would have a daughter, and I was allowed to hold her in that dream, my daughter is now due in 4 weeks. I also as in prayer, when I knew my wife was pregnant, the room lit up with a flash of light, and I "felt" the motion of something hitting my wife, she moved and made a werid noise. I told her the next day she was preganant. i was right.

Another dream, I merged with God, I seriously could have had a heart attack. It was intense.
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Two little stories similar to yours:

When my wife and I were freshly married we used to live in a duplex for a while. The bedroom we slept in had one small window next to our bed about 10 feet up from the ground (outside). One night while we were both sleeping I happen to notice this smiling little boy peeping through the window from the outside. The next morning I told my wife about it stating what I have seen was a soul to be born...:-)

Merging with God...When I was in my teens I overheard my parents fighting in the living room. Talk of divorce came up what got me really upset and angry. Seemed they really did not care about what would be happening to any of their underage children. Long story short I went into the bathroom, locked the door behind me, and sat on the bathtub rim, head between elbows facing my grim future and the faucet in front of me.
After a while I started to get bored reflecting about a situation I could not change and turned on the faucet. I intended to make the stream of water as thin as I could just before it broke up into individual droplets, starring at it.
Next moment I felt I was within, slowly drifting with no up-or-down sensing all the others around me being sheltered in the cocoon like spheres that I was in. I never felt so happy in my life! I sensed that one is with me that comforts me.
Don't ask me how many times I ended up sneaking into the bathroom trying to replicate this experience ..LOL But I did bring something back - this high frequency pitched noise I had mentioned. I must have been about 11/12 back then.
In the dreams a meet Him He represents Himself - what a stereotype image...hehe - as an old man with a white beard.
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The trick is to have multiple states of consciousness active at the same time. That is the trick. It is not to 'exit' your body, but it is for your physical consciousness to still be active and aware while you begin and enter other states.


YES! I experience what could be called black outs, or deep trance states while praying or meditating. It's missing time.


This is what most mystics of today are teaching wrongly. We are not leaving our body, we are changing our awareness.



I have never left my body, nor have the desire too, however during these prayerful black outs, I think information is embedded. A little off the original topic.
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Not so far off as you believe...
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This is what most mystics of today are teaching wrongly. We are not leaving our body, we are changing our awareness.
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Is this your experience? Case in point on one of my not quite so successful OOBEs I got stuck in-between. I noticed the transfer of consciousness (for a better word) from the physical into the astral with a short blackout but than looking at my physical noticing that the astral was partially still stuck in the physical. I decided to slip back in turned around and went to sleep.

On my first planned OOBE I ended up looking at my other hands. I then slipped back into the physical, then out again looking at my hands. Don't know how many times I did this but eventually those other hands started to deteriorate, the fabric developing tiny holes increasing to blotches until they were gone - much like a soap bubble before it burst.
Later on I went to visit the guy that had taken over my shift - afraid he would see me..LOL

A couple of times I had to come back unexpectedly and upon waking I noticed this very uncomfortable feeling between my shoulder blades - much like a burning sensation.

OOBEs are generated through intent much as the body/vehicle that carries your awareness.
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I've been noticing it increasingly over the past few months.

Actually, I had a friend over this weekend who started complaining that he needed new glasses, was getting all freaked out cause he was seeing flashes of light speckles out of the corner of his eyes.

I asked him if he had ever considered that his eyes were not having problems, if actually they might finally be seeing what has been all around him all the time, just invisible to our focused vision.

He thought that might be a very reasonable explanation and said he's keep it in mind.
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After about half a year of deep prayer and meditation. And one experience where I basically got "zapped" by an electro-magnetic force (I saw a light over everyone's head for about a day). No lie, the electricity in my house was going bat shit crazy, like a continuous power surge. The light in my room grew brighter and brighter, until it enveloped me.

A couple of other experiences, are when reading the Bible in a deep meditative state, the letters start sparkling like diamonds and flying of the page, re-arranging, images and messages appear in the white space between the letters on the pages. I have realized something has changed in my vision. Another experience where I kept getting "yanked" out of my body all night (but I would snap back in to my body), and basically couldn't fall asleep, the next morning I thought my wife was waving her hands over me. She was not. Basically, I can tap into the spiritual at will.

I have been doing research and have come to the conclusion, that I have somehow "initiated" myself into the mysteries.

Now,

1. I consistently see a bright "singularity" in the middle of my field of vision, I noticed it appears when I speak to certain people or when I think certain thoughts or read certain material. It is kind of like a truth beacon.

2. I see white whisps flying around, usually out of the corner of my eye, but sometimes directly in front of me as well. If I read certain books, even in the OT the white whisps become black whisps.

3. Sometimes for no good reason, my field of vision is absolutely covered with sparks of light, they appear to be flying around every where, doing nose dives, melting with each other, gathering around certain objects and people. Sometimes they gather around my head, and do synchronized dives in a circle around me.

Beleive it or not, I am actually a pretty rational person, with rational beliefs, a BA, a good job, mortgage, wife - I am just trying to figure what has "happened" to me. I have found some clues in eastern religion, old christian mysticism, and jewish mysticism. But really no solid answers. And honestly sometimes, I dont want to see the ETHER. I just want to be normal. I also get extremely intense dreams, and a pressure in the center of my forehead that feels like dripping water is leaking out of the space between my eyes.

Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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You're probably possessed by a devil.
This is standard procedure of the type of meditation you suggests here and reading all that mysticism junk, it's a sure way to get possessed.

Then you mention that you have out of body experiences, how do you think your body stays alive when you're out of it?
At least one devil in it keeping it alive.

You need to stop all this garbage, repent of it and get Born again:
[link to biblebelievers.com]

or else go to hell with the rest of the "higher awareness" crowd.
Your choice, not going to make it for you but at least be aware of where you are going if you keep this junk up.

Jesus will help you out if you get born again, that's the only way to stop this.

Don't trust the devil possessed in here trying to say this is good what is happening to you, it is not, this bad stuff.
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i have experienced everyhing you have said.. i have been zapped several times but one was very intense.. i know what you mean from the fountain like sensation from between the eyebrows.. the head pressure , the magnetic sensations around your head, the millions and billions of luminous tadpoles flying around everywhere,, the feeling differences in body and the animation of nature.
Answers?
We live and learn.
Just take peace from knowing it is real and not psychosis.
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You're probably possessed by a devil.
This is standard procedure of the type of meditation you suggests here and reading all that mysticism junk, it's a sure way to get possessed.

Then you mention that you have out of body experiences, how do you think your body stays alive when you're out of it?
At least one devil in it keeping it alive.

You need to stop all this garbage, repent of it and get Born again:
[link to biblebelievers.com]

or else go to hell with the rest of the "higher awareness" crowd.
Your choice, not going to make it for you but at least be aware of where you are going if you keep this junk up.

Jesus will help you out if you get born again, that's the only way to stop this.

Don't trust the devil possessed in here trying to say this is good what is happening to you, it is not, this bad stuff.
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Proxy by chance? I didn't know they had born again Christians in Sweden...:-) If you follow Jesus why hide?....
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After about half a year of deep prayer and meditation. And one experience where I basically got "zapped" by an electro-magnetic force (I saw a light over everyone's head for about a day). No lie, the electricity in my house was going bat shit crazy, like a continuous power surge. The light in my room grew brighter and brighter, until it enveloped me.

A couple of other experiences, are when reading the Bible in a deep meditative state, the letters start sparkling like diamonds and flying of the page, re-arranging, images and messages appear in the white space between the letters on the pages. I have realized something has changed in my vision. Another experience where I kept getting "yanked" out of my body all night (but I would snap back in to my body), and basically couldn't fall asleep, the next morning I thought my wife was waving her hands over me. She was not. Basically, I can tap into the spiritual at will.

I have been doing research and have come to the conclusion, that I have somehow "initiated" myself into the mysteries.

Now,

1. I consistently see a bright "singularity" in the middle of my field of vision, I noticed it appears when I speak to certain people or when I think certain thoughts or read certain material. It is kind of like a truth beacon.

2. I see white whisps flying around, usually out of the corner of my eye, but sometimes directly in front of me as well. If I read certain books, even in the OT the white whisps become black whisps.

3. Sometimes for no good reason, my field of vision is absolutely covered with sparks of light, they appear to be flying around every where, doing nose dives, melting with each other, gathering around certain objects and people. Sometimes they gather around my head, and do synchronized dives in a circle around me.

Beleive it or not, I am actually a pretty rational person, with rational beliefs, a BA, a good job, mortgage, wife - I am just trying to figure what has "happened" to me. I have found some clues in eastern religion, old christian mysticism, and jewish mysticism. But really no solid answers. And honestly sometimes, I dont want to see the ETHER. I just want to be normal. I also get extremely intense dreams, and a pressure in the center of my forehead that feels like dripping water is leaking out of the space between my eyes.

Anyone know what the heck is going on?


You're probably possessed by a devil.
This is standard procedure of the type of meditation you suggests here and reading all that mysticism junk, it's a sure way to get possessed.

Then you mention that you have out of body experiences, how do you think your body stays alive when you're out of it?
At least one devil in it keeping it alive.

You need to stop all this garbage, repent of it and get Born again:
[link to biblebelievers.com]

or else go to hell with the rest of the "higher awareness" crowd.
Your choice, not going to make it for you but at least be aware of where you are going if you keep this junk up.

Jesus will help you out if you get born again, that's the only way to stop this.

Don't trust the devil possessed in here trying to say this is good what is happening to you, it is not, this bad stuff.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 980584

Why would one need to get "born again" if you already have a sense of the creator in you? I hate to disagree with you, but I don't think that we go to hell, but I do believe that we have to come back in another life time, if we don't learn the lessons of love & kindness to all and I do believe that this is the lesson that Jesus Christ was trying to teach and I think he was an ascended master!

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