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Does anyone else "see the ETHER" ???

 
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Also, there are many roads that lead back to the creator and higher awareness is just one of them! What kind of creator would only give us one way to get there?
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After about half a year of deep prayer and meditation. And one experience where I basically got "zapped" by an electro-magnetic force (I saw a light over everyone's head for about a day). No lie, the electricity in my house was going bat shit crazy, like a continuous power surge. The light in my room grew brighter and brighter, until it enveloped me.

A couple of other experiences, are when reading the Bible in a deep meditative state, the letters start sparkling like diamonds and flying of the page, re-arranging, images and messages appear in the white space between the letters on the pages. I have realized something has changed in my vision. Another experience where I kept getting "yanked" out of my body all night (but I would snap back in to my body), and basically couldn't fall asleep, the next morning I thought my wife was waving her hands over me. She was not. Basically, I can tap into the spiritual at will.

I have been doing research and have come to the conclusion, that I have somehow "initiated" myself into the mysteries.

Now,

1. I consistently see a bright "singularity" in the middle of my field of vision, I noticed it appears when I speak to certain people or when I think certain thoughts or read certain material. It is kind of like a truth beacon.

2. I see white whisps flying around, usually out of the corner of my eye, but sometimes directly in front of me as well. If I read certain books, even in the OT the white whisps become black whisps.

3. Sometimes for no good reason, my field of vision is absolutely covered with sparks of light, they appear to be flying around every where, doing nose dives, melting with each other, gathering around certain objects and people. Sometimes they gather around my head, and do synchronized dives in a circle around me.

Beleive it or not, I am actually a pretty rational person, with rational beliefs, a BA, a good job, mortgage, wife - I am just trying to figure what has "happened" to me. I have found some clues in eastern religion, old christian mysticism, and jewish mysticism. But really no solid answers. And honestly sometimes, I dont want to see the ETHER. I just want to be normal. I also get extremely intense dreams, and a pressure in the center of my forehead that feels like dripping water is leaking out of the space between my eyes.

Anyone know what the heck is going on?
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you are not the only one. i have the same thing since 1997, i have known someone else having the same thing in 1999, one of my friends has the same thing for more than 2 years.

its not 'ether' per se.

what i understand is, all the flashes and stuff are just thought/spiritual contact that gets established in the heat of the moment in that instant, transfers both energy and thought in the process.

a problem i have is, i find it rather impossible to discern who the communique is coming from.

its not that i can identify any of them/it/they by name, by something we know in the normal life, or someone from my past BUT, i kinda (after all those years ffs) discern at least some of the communication by feeling the energy involved.

well the thing is its wild. i very much do not think that the channel that is open is limited to ANY certain frequency, dimension etc. there are comminuques with nature ranging from third to .. i guess, well, 9, some 'alive' white color. ( i like those the best actually heh ).

but its a long talk.
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This is what most mystics of today are teaching wrongly. We are not leaving our body, we are changing our awareness.


Is this your experience? Case in point on one of my not quite so successful OOBEs I got stuck in-between. I noticed the transfer of consciousness (for a better word) from the physical into the astral with a short blackout but than looking at my physical noticing that the astral was partially still stuck in the physical. I decided to slip back in turned around and went to sleep.

On my first planned OOBE I ended up looking at my other hands. I then slipped back into the physical, then out again looking at my hands. Don't know how many times I did this but eventually those other hands started to deteriorate, the fabric developing tiny holes increasing to blotches until they were gone - much like a soap bubble before it burst.
Later on I went to visit the guy that had taken over my shift - afraid he would see me..LOL

A couple of times I had to come back unexpectedly and upon waking I noticed this very uncomfortable feeling between my shoulder blades - much like a burning sensation.

OOBEs are generated through intent much as the body/vehicle that carries your awareness.
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Its very difficult because we talk about these things as a physical concept. So, in a manner of speaking, we are exiting our body and traveling...and that is how it feels to me as well...that is because we are remembering the experience through our physical consciousness. But, when you are in that other state, you can be most successful by not thinking in 'physical' ways. But, it is the easiest way to transmit the information to physical beings, by describing physical 'effects'.

And intention is the majority of the battle.
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i have experienced everyhing you have said.. i have been zapped several times but one was very intense.. i know what you mean from the fountain like sensation from between the eyebrows.. the head pressure , the magnetic sensations around your head, the millions and billions of luminous tadpoles flying around everywhere,, the feeling differences in body and the animation of nature.
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Just take peace from knowing it is real and not psychosis.
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wow, i couldnt have said it better!
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NOW

some aspects of this thing i have discovered ;

any source aiding you with your normal life may come through this. ie,

one of my friends i talked about, is a total berserker. she jumps into EVERY kind of effort, every kind of charity, societal activity (she even engaged in politics a long while ago), animal care and whatnot, she also has her regular job, she also has a 12 year old daughter, she also tends 4 cats and 2 dogs at home and a rather strict but dependant (due to age) grandmother, a problematic extended family, innumerable odd people at work and out.

in short, she spends her energy like mad. in addition, she has lupus. she wasnt supposed to live the last 10 years. not only she lived it but also .. well. turned a lot of things upside down.

aaaand, she has the condition constantly. she continually sees, generally white lights flashing here and there. she doesnt understand, or attempt to actually interact or talk, but she just observes.

actually she doesnt know, however she sucks up the energy given too. nothing is wrong with that, since that energy is given to her already by whatever source is delivering it, BUT, she soaks up a lot.

i have repeatedly tried to get her wiser, and use less energy and use her energy wisely (i kinda suspect she is also depleting the sources tending to all of us), AND to actually interact with her 'aide(s)', but, she doesnt listen and she doesnt intend to.

i find it quite disrespectful. i mean, what's on the other side is not a dumb energy pump - its another entity or entities ffs.

there is also the chance that each of that kind of phenomenon may be each souls late 7th dimension future mind/body/spirit totality. i have had some experiences to reinforce that thesis, but im not sure.

i find myself generally quarreling with the blue color communication. i mean, quarreling a lot. from daily matters to philosophy. i sometimes get mad at some of the (according to me) unbelievably unwise thoughts and concepts i receive.

i rarely see orange. i very rarely see red. very rarely see violet and almost never see. what that color was that coincided with six ? indigo. i saw indigo maybe 2 times throughout these (2010-1997=) aaah. fuck at this hour of the night - yeah 13 years. say maybe 6 with an exaggeration, i dont remember.

i frequently see white. i get along quite well with white communication, or whichever level of entity communicates from behind white.

but, the 'alive' looking white color is 'the' thing. its the shit, really.

however at all times, especially lately, im exercising moderation, and spending extreme effort not to be a burden, and act properly and with the high standards and principles (spiritually) i feel needed. im not 'required' anything, but, i require it myself.

............

there are also dancing, very fast flowing white stuff. sometimes they increase in number and it becomes something like what the astronauts described seeing while they were exiting the atmosphere for the first time.

however, i got identification for those.

remember when you meditate, you sometimes see some 'television statis like' mess, all white and black stuff dancing together and twirling etc, and then stabilizing into something like a 'wavy sea' (just like in those sufi shit) ?

in 2 cases in the last 2 months i have been able to see a similar effect just before i went to sleep and started dreaming. it was a lucid situation, i was not totally asleep i was falling asleep and started dreaming.

those twirling, dancing white and black infinite stuff start dancing and the bedroom vanishes and some other place appears.

SO, im suspecting that dancing white stuff are somethign related to one's own soul.
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i have experienced everyhing you have said.. i have been zapped several times but one was very intense.. i know what you mean from the fountain like sensation from between the eyebrows.. the head pressure , the magnetic sensations around your head, the millions and billions of luminous tadpoles flying around everywhere,, the feeling differences in body and the animation of nature.
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We live and learn.
Just take peace from knowing it is real and not psychosis.
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+100
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1. I consistently see a bright "singularity" in the middle of my field of vision, I noticed it appears when I speak to certain people or when I think certain thoughts or read certain material. It is kind of like a truth beacon.
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not necessarily a truth beacon. it may be an energy transfer to replenish your depleted energy or the energy that is being sucked away from you. to keep your spiritual balance.

it kinda means, imo, you should not continue that interaction for long and scram from there.
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i have experienced everyhing you have said.. i have been zapped several times but one was very intense.. i know what you mean from the fountain like sensation from between the eyebrows.. the head pressure , the magnetic sensations around your head, the millions and billions of luminous tadpoles flying around everywhere,, the feeling differences in body and the animation of nature.
Answers?
We live and learn.
Just take peace from knowing it is real and not psychosis.


+100
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yea, the luminous tadpoles thingy - > thats the thing i was describing with the swirling, dancing white and black stuff. like infinite amounts of small zen symbols twirling, but then harmonizing into somethign like a wavy sea, then stabilizes into a very less wavy sea and after that, you cant notice the sea. its very calm at from point on tho.
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Also, there are many roads that lead back to the creator and higher awareness is just one of them! What kind of creator would only give us one way to get there?
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One of my mottos: infinite are the paths to God.
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not necessarily a truth beacon. it may be an energy transfer to replenish your depleted energy or the energy that is being sucked away from you. to keep your spiritual balance.


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Interesting. It usually occurs when speaking with other people.
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I do think somehow I have "awakened" my pineal gland, hence the singularity I see, and the dripping feeling in between my eyes.
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Hold your attention at the pineal gland when you fall to sleep every night.

Things will get clearer in time.


The others things aren't what you think they are.
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The others things aren't what you think they are.
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Care to elaborate. I really dont think anyone has a right or wrong answer.
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I have similar sights. Especially number 3. It used to be where I would have to look at something like the sky to see them, or concentrate to see them. Now, I see them all the time. I have to ignore them or it gets frustrating. luckily, they are easy to ignore.

I know exactly what you mean. hf
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guy.

you shouldnt ignore them. at no point.

those sparks generally appear when you are energetically or spiritually in or about to get in a low point. they raise the energy level or change one's situation.

those tadpoles, wisps of light are most important, i think they are one of the parts that are related to inner worlds not outer communique.

ignoring or suppressing them is like fascism. it practically kills the soul.
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Hey there brother! I too see the 'white wisps' and even the black wisps at times. They move ever so fast. My honest belief is that they are beings either monitoring, influencing, or attempting to manipulate us.


This is my personal experience, and mine alone, in that the 'white wisps' are usually docile in energy when I notice them. I always feel stable in my emotional balance when I notice them. However, with the 'dark wisps', the majority of them seem to try to get my attention and cause disruption in my emotional balance. When this happens, (this is hard to explain), its usually because I can feel or see their presence grow overwhelmingly: i.e. the black wisp grows into a menacing shadow. Infact, I have to become "unaware" of them or I cannot reattain my balance.
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my experience is the same.

white 'wisps', raise up energy levels.

black wisps, well, totally suck energy dry.

i suspect they are both part of the inner spaces of one's soul.

perfect when they both appear though, in harmony. sight to behold.

at some times black wisps may be an important factor in stabilizing extreme outbursts of energy, in my experience.
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You're probably possessed by a devil.
This is standard procedure of the type of meditation you suggests here and reading all that mysticism junk, it's a sure way to get possessed.

Then you mention that you have out of body experiences, how do you think your body stays alive when you're out of it?
At least one devil in it keeping it alive.

You need to stop all this garbage, repent of it and get Born again:
[link to biblebelievers.com]

or else go to hell with the rest of the "higher awareness" crowd.
Your choice, not going to make it for you but at least be aware of where you are going if you keep this junk up.

Jesus will help you out if you get born again, that's the only way to stop this.

Don't trust the devil possessed in here trying to say this is good what is happening to you, it is not, this bad stuff.
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Interesting, I appreciate your concern. But I also find the most similarity or resonance with the Christian religion. Such as the transfiguration, the baptism of fire, Paul being taken up to third heaven, the kingdom of heaven being in us, and outside of us, Paul being blinded and having a spiritual awakening. These things are not mere nonsense too me, but seem to have really happened. Of course they expressed it differently 2000 years ago.
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I have similar sights. Especially number 3. It used to be where I would have to look at something like the sky to see them, or concentrate to see them. Now, I see them all the time. I have to ignore them or it gets frustrating. luckily, they are easy to ignore.

I know exactly what you mean. hf


guy.

you shouldnt ignore them. at no point.

those sparks generally appear when you are energetically or spiritually in or about to get in a low point. they raise the energy level or change one's situation.

those tadpoles, wisps of light are most important, i think they are one of the parts that are related to inner worlds not outer communique.

ignoring or suppressing them is like fascism. it practically kills the soul.
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you don't understand, I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME. I have to ignore them...they are there ALL THE TIME. If I didn't ignore them, I would be staring into lala land 24/7
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maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

all this philosophical talk, gods, bibles, this that.

excuse me, but all of these are not necessary.

you arent seeing 'lights', or it is not a 'condition' or anything else.

its spiritual interaction and communication and energy transfer with parties being on the other side of the veil.

its important shit.

its no different than your deceased mother or father or friends trying to help you or your soul guides or some other entity trying to help you with shit.

you NEED to communicate, in spirit, soul, telephatic (whatever you name it) level with those.

first, its a total disrespect to the parties, parts of your soul, whatever is on the other side at any given point, second, its a waste of their effort.

at this point, if you started (in my experience) to experience this condition, you dont need god, bible, philosophy books, or anything pertaining to this particular world. anything you need to learn, ask, tell, or have, IS within the other side of the veil. you need to just talk.
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Care to elaborate.
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No, not really.

What I can say is that what you're experiencing is normally the beginnings of something that happens to many people.




I really dont think anyone has a right or wrong answer.
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Not everyone you talk to is the next man.
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maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

all this philosophical talk, gods, bibles, this that.

excuse me, but all of these are not necessary.

you arent seeing 'lights', or it is not a 'condition' or anything else.

its spiritual interaction and communication and energy transfer with parties being on the other side of the veil.

its important shit.

its no different than your deceased mother or father or friends trying to help you or your soul guides or some other entity trying to help you with shit.

you NEED to communicate, in spirit, soul, telephatic (whatever you name it) level with those.

first, its a total disrespect to the parties, parts of your soul, whatever is on the other side at any given point, second, its a waste of their effort.

at this point, if you started (in my experience) to experience this condition, you dont need god, bible, philosophy books, or anything pertaining to this particular world. anything you need to learn, ask, tell, or have, IS within the other side of the veil. you need to just talk.
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Everyone is at there own level of development.
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you don't understand, I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME. I have to ignore them...they are there ALL THE TIME. If I didn't ignore them, I would be staring into lala land 24/7
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man, then it probably means (from my experience) you are either living in a condition (either environmentally, your house, family or something) that puts a lot of pressure on you, or you have some kind of stress, load, or some energy drainage over you from god knows what source. or something like that.

ie, you need the energy transfer to remain in the condition you are in.

i would consider it as a problem, since its not good to have that much energy transfer - ie, energy is transferred, but still something or some condition drains it from you, they transfer it to you. you act as the conduit without wanting it, therefore, you basically handle a current flowing over you. it can cause wear and tear.

i dont know. maybe you should change your circumstances, where you live in etc ?
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You're probably possessed by a devil.
This is standard procedure of the type of meditation you suggests here and reading all that mysticism junk, it's a sure way to get possessed.

Then you mention that you have out of body experiences, how do you think your body stays alive when you're out of it?
At least one devil in it keeping it alive.

You need to stop all this garbage, repent of it and get Born again:
[link to biblebelievers.com]

or else go to hell with the rest of the "higher awareness" crowd.
Your choice, not going to make it for you but at least be aware of where you are going if you keep this junk up.

Jesus will help you out if you get born again, that's the only way to stop this.

Don't trust the devil possessed in here trying to say this is good what is happening to you, it is not, this bad stuff.
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Dude, the closest thing to the Devil in this thread is your post and the Bible.

The Bible is supposed to create spiritual dependency and plant fear triggers to keep followers following a False-Self-proclaimed God. I have no problem with Jesus, just a problem with the double standard God of the Old Testament and the double-standards that riddle that whore of a text. Because its been re-put together and re-translated over and over to serve multiple agendas through history.
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you don't understand, I SEE THEM ALL THE TIME. I have to ignore them...they are there ALL THE TIME. If I didn't ignore them, I would be staring into lala land 24/7


man, then it probably means (from my experience) you are either living in a condition (either environmentally, your house, family or something) that puts a lot of pressure on you, or you have some kind of stress, load, or some energy drainage over you from god knows what source. or something like that.

ie, you need the energy transfer to remain in the condition you are in.

i would consider it as a problem, since its not good to have that much energy transfer - ie, energy is transferred, but still something or some condition drains it from you, they transfer it to you. you act as the conduit without wanting it, therefore, you basically handle a current flowing over you. it can cause wear and tear.

i dont know. maybe you should change your circumstances, where you live in etc ?
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OK, I will take your advise...and throw it the fuck away. First you tell me to not ignore them...now it is a mental problem. Whatever dude...
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The only way you can go to hell is if you create it for yourself and BELIEVE you have to keep yourself locked in it.

I'm cool with Jesus, but the Bible wants a Worshiping Dictatorship, not cool with that.

I don't think the real God would be satisfied by fearful worshipers.

What kind of being would want a fear-based relationship with conditional love and support? God, or...
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Not exactly, but I see the ultraviolet spectrum in addition to the regular light spectrum.
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No, not really.

What I can say is that what you're experiencing is normally the beginnings of something that happens to many people.





I really dont think anyone has a right or wrong answer.





Not everyone you talk to is the next man.
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Well thanks for your input, i guess.
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Not trying to doubt you op, but you may have a tumor.
Perhaps a visit to the er?
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Not trying to doubt you op, but you may have a tumor.
Perhaps a visit to the er?
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Yeah, someone already mentioned that on pg 3. I actually just had a check up and blood tests done. I am all good. I dont get dizzy or get tunnel vision or anything. I also got my eyes checked and dont have any problems there either.
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OK, I will take your advise...and throw it the fuck away. First you tell me to not ignore them...now it is a mental problem. Whatever dude...
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you misunderstood it completely.

i advised you not to ignore them.

i didnt tell you it is a mental problem.

read it again, what i described are totally spiritual conditions stemming from normal circumstances :

- the city/town you live in may be too low in frequency, or even negative in vibrations, therefore the environment may be sucking up your energy a lot. with energy, i mean spiritual energy.

- there may be someone or more than one person in your life that is creating a load on you, stress, spiritual load (whatever you name it), ie basically having you to carry their own weight. for the good, or for the worse. with good intent or with ill intent.

- you may have a physiological, bodily condition that you know or you dont know, that drains energy, to the extent that it requires you to get external aid from your sources.

and generally stuff like this. in summary, there may be REAL conditions that cause you to lose or burn up energy fast or a lot.

this is my experience.
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No, not really.

What I can say is that what you're experiencing is normally the beginnings of something that happens to many people.





I really dont think anyone has a right or wrong answer.





Not everyone you talk to is the next man.


Well thanks for your input, i guess.
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Well if you listened to my first post to you, in time you wouldn't NEED anyone's input.


You only help the willing afterall.
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No, not really.

What I can say is that what you're experiencing is normally the beginnings of something that happens to many people.





I really dont think anyone has a right or wrong answer.





Not everyone you talk to is the next man.


Well thanks for your input, i guess.



Well if you listened to my first post to you, in time you wouldn't NEED anyone's input.

Jeez luiz man. You sure sound condescending. No one needs your help he was asking for opinioms and input but you seem to be above participating.


You only help the willing afterall.
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