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WESTALL UFO AUSTRALIA

 
mortal

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It was a long time ago Shane. I think the Pines were where Brady Ave is now, beyond that there are factories of some sort. All that building up happened after I left the area. Looking at Google Earth it all seems so different.
Perhaps it was The Grange as you say, and as I said, I was not there, although I did go there after school as everywhere was abuzz with the excitement of it all, and I remember seeing quite a few planes circling, although I did not view the actual landing site.
As kids, my friends and I played a lot in the area, there was a landfill or something like it, a lot of sand, and some sort of pond, and we would sail 44's and do other stupid stuff that we wouldn't let our own kids do now.
I did mention it to sis this morning and she said that she did not see the ufo, only the circle left behind in the grass, which she said was quite large. "We all trooped over there for a look". She said that Mr. Greenwood was fat, and wore sunglasses in class, and threw chalk at unruly students! :-)
Anyway, sis has the link to this thread and will likely look at it tonight some time. :-)
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Thanks for the video link, just spotted my sis in a school photo in part 3! :-)
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It was a long time ago Shane. I think the Pines were where Brady Ave is now, beyond that there are factories of some sort. All that building up happened after I left the area. Looking at Google Earth it all seems so different.
Perhaps it was The Grange as you say, and as I said, I was not there, although I did go there after school as everywhere was abuzz with the excitement of it all, and I remember seeing quite a few planes circling, although I did not view the actual landing site.
As kids, my friends and I played a lot in the area, there was a landfill or something like it, a lot of sand, and some sort of pond, and we would sail 44's and do other stupid stuff that we wouldn't let our own kids do now.
I did mention it to sis this morning and she said that she did not see the ufo, only the circle left behind in the grass, which she said was quite large. "We all trooped over there for a look". She said that Mr. Greenwood was fat, and wore sunglasses in class, and threw chalk at unruly students! :-)
Anyway, sis has the link to this thread and will likely look at it tonight some time. :-)
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Nice to hear back from you Mortal - thanks for that.

If it helps you - and your sister - here is a link to a very detailed 1966 aerial photo of Westall. You should be able to zoom in (at least once) if needed. It's so detailed you can see cars in car parks and streets. Perhaps you can use it to indicate to me where the landing place was.

[link to f1.grp.yahoofs.com] Westall excerpt.jpg

This photo is also on the Facebook and Yahoo Groups pages.

Did you ever hear of anyone taking photos of the circle at The Pines?

Cheers,

Shane.
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The link gives a page not found error, can you upload the pic to www.mediafire.com or imageshack and post the link for me please, and I'm not on Facebook. Not many people had cameras back then, it was a middle class area and a bit of a luxury I would think. I'll wait for your pic link and get back to you. :-)
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The link gives a page not found error, can you upload the pic to www.mediafire.com or imageshack and post the link for me please, and I'm not on Facebook. Not many people had cameras back then, it was a middle class area and a bit of a luxury I would think. I'll wait for your pic link and get back to you. :-)
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Sorry about that page error. I don't know how to upload to the sites you mentioned.

Is there an easy way to upload a JPG to this site? (I can't email the file as it is too big.)

Alternatively, you can view it at the Yahoo Groups site - it's under "Files" on the left hand side bar.

Cheers,

Shane.
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I have it thanks. :-) Sis just looked at the aerial photo and confirmed the site as being close to The Pines, within the marked green vector area. She says they all walked down there, climbed a fence, crossed the paddock and stood around the perimeter of the landing site. The grass was yellow, about a foot high, with a flattened circular area, it was massive.
Also found herself in the Class Form 1B photo, second row from the top and 4th from the left! Also in the doco part 3.

I have uploaded to mediafire a pic with the details of the site as my sis remembers it and a screen grab from the documentary.
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Would you know when the screening is on at Byron Film Festival? We live not far from there and would like to go, I've looked at the Byron site and it's not listed.
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Would you know when the screening is on at Byron Film Festival? We live not far from there and would like to go, I've looked at the Byron site and it's not listed.
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Thanks Mortal,

You're obviously a wiz with using images on computers - that was great. Thank you for marking the aerial photo that way. There's also an unmarked one in the Files section - third in the list - which is good for witnesses to look at as it doesn't suggest things to them like the marked one, further down in the list, can do. But that was really useful.

So, your sister's name is Jeanette, is that right - going by the class photo? I wonder if she recalls a student called Tanya who was also in Form 1 in 1966, and a witness?

As for the Byron Bay Film Festival, they are announcing the screening line-up on Friday, apparently.

By the way, some students do recall a landing in an area west of the high school - so my earlier queries were partly around the term "The Pines" and seeking clarification about that. If you and your sister do have memories relating to that western area, then do please feel free to elaborate on those - and don't let me talk you out of it!!

Cheers,

Shane.
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I did not spot the unmarked aerial photo, otherwise I would have marked that one instead. You are correct, it is Jeanette. Is Tanya in any of the school photos? Thanks for the info on the screenings, we will probably go. :-)
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I have removed the files from mediafire now that you have them.
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I have removed the files from mediafire now that you have them.
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Tanya doesn't appear in the class photos as she had left the school before they were taken.

Just in relation to the area you marked on the aerial photo, that spot was a market garden in 1966 - you can see the furrows if you are able to zoom in enough on the photo. Does your sister recall the circle being in a market garden field? I know it is hard to remember after all these years, but any further information you can provide will be most helpful.

Is your sister still intending to contact me? And, any thoughts about photos being taken? Did any other members of your family (parents?) or friends (neighbours?) visit the location of the circle? And, what became of the circle, I wonder?

Cheers...and forgive all the questions.

Shane.
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Jenny is kinda busy right now, she's looking at the Facebook site, and maybe she will get in touch later.
I do not know of any photos, and we both left the area in our early teens and haven't been back since.
As for the area I marked being a market garden, Jenny thinks it was actually some sort of a paddock with grass planted in it, she remembers having to go over a fence to see the circle, so it was not actually within The Pines, it was a clear area alongside.
I will email you know anyway with some additional details.
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I have removed the files from mediafire now that you have them.
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I'm interested in looking at your picture showing the landing area. I have family smack bang in the middle of Brady Ave. They've been there since the early days.
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Picture re-upped for 24 hours.
Please keep in mind that my sisters memory of the event is not perfect, therefore the site I have marked is conjecture on her part, as she recalls it being an open area, alongside The Pines. The area was an open field, with some sort of planted grass or crop, which had been flattened into a circular shape. The exact size of the circle she cannot recall, however she said it was big as all of the children stood around the perimeter. She did not re-visit the site, and as I said earlier, I did not see it either, perhaps I failed to find it.
The area I have outlined in the aerial photo is the most likely landing site according to my sister. It is a re-edit of another witnesses' sighting report. I have added the field, the shelter sheds at the school as they were marked as unknown, and marked The Grange as the schools cross country running area.
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Shane I have sent you email with additional info that I will not disclose on a public forum.
I hope we have been of some help to you, your quest for information is in my opinion admirable, especially after all the years that have passed. It is really a fascinating case. I have joined the Westall Yahoo group amd no doubt Jenny has signed onto the Facebook group. Will you be at Byron for the screening? It would be good to meet.
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Thanks Mortal,
You may well have played with members of my family as youngster. I think a couple of them when to Clayton Tech.

Three brothers and a sister, there father was a teacher, maybe even a headmaster, but I'm not sure if it was the same school his children went to but his brother was a well known Australian Naturalist at the time. I'm not to keen on giving away to many names on here but the girls name was Jan (Janice), does the family ring a bell?
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Thanks Mortal,
You may well have played with members of my family as youngster. I think a couple of them when to Clayton Tech.

Three brothers and a sister, there father was a teacher, maybe even a headmaster, but I'm not sure if it was the same school his children went to but his brother was a well known Australian Naturalist at the time. I'm not to keen on giving away to many names on here but the girls name was Jan (Janice), does the family ring a bell?
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G'day Zod,

Shane here. Several Westall witnesses recall one or more flying saucers landing in a paddock where Brady Avenue is now - about half way between Rosebank Avenue and Fairbank Road. If you have a look at the 1966 aerial photo on the Yahoo Groups or Facebook sites (see links) you will see the area and the field clearly - but not the circles or marks as the photo was taken in January 1966. There was a lane, called "The Lane" by the locals, than ran parallel to where Brady Avenue is now, at the rear of where the houses in Brady Avenue are now. A concreted driveway now runs along the alignment of that original dirt lane.

Were you around Westall at the time? Any links with the flying saucer incident via your family or friends or neighbours?

Cheers,

Shane.
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No mate, I'm sorry it doesn't. It was so long ago now.
I left Clayton South not long after turning fifteen, and I did not finish third year at the tech school. I got out as soon as I could.
My sister and I did not have a very happy childhood, and we have tried hard to forget it. It is what binds us, what we have shared. It's another story, and not for here anyway.
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Shane, your comment about Brady Ave got me thinking again. I always believed myself that the landing site was west of the school, and not south west. Closer to where Brady Ave is now. I have uploaded another edited pic. Let me know what you think.
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G'day Zod,

Shane here. Several Westall witnesses recall one or more flying saucers landing in a paddock where Brady Avenue is now - about half way between Rosebank Avenue and Fairbank Road. If you have a look at the 1966 aerial photo on the Yahoo Groups or Facebook sites (see links) you will see the area and the field clearly - but not the circles or marks as the photo was taken in January 1966. There was a lane, called "The Lane" by the locals, than ran parallel to where Brady Avenue is now, at the rear of where the houses in Brady Avenue are now. A concreted driveway now runs along the alignment of that original dirt lane.

Were you around Westall at the time? Any links with the flying saucer incident via your family or friends or neighbours?

Cheers,

Shane.
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Sorry Shane, I missed out on this by one generation. It's my grandfather that lives right in the middle of Brady Ave. My father, his two brothers and sister all grew up in the area and would have been school age at the time of the incident.

I'll be seeing my father this Friday, I'll see if he has any stories to tell me. If there's anything to tell, I'll be sure to let you know.
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No mate, I'm sorry it doesn't. It was so long ago now.
I left Clayton South not long after turning fifteen, and I did not finish third year at the tech school. I got out as soon as I could.
My sister and I did not have a very happy childhood, and we have tried hard to forget it. It is what binds us, what we have shared. It's another story, and not for here anyway.
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No problems, thanks for the reply. The school and approx time frame matched with my fathers / uncles so it caught my attention.
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Shane, your comment about Brady Ave got me thinking again. I always believed myself that the landing site was west of the school, and not south west. Closer to where Brady Ave is now. I have uploaded another edited pic. Let me know what you think.
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Thanks Mortal for that updated aerial photo. That's certainly food for thought. The possible landing site you have marked is different from where others have indicated - but that doesn't mean it is wrong of course. (And yes, the bottom half of that block is still vacant today, 45 years later.)

The area you marked as a tennis court, is actually the soccer ground now. The tennis court is on the other (eastern) side of the pines.

Where was your house back in 1966?

Cheers,

Shane.
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Sorry Shane, I missed out on this by one generation. It's my grandfather that lives right in the middle of Brady Ave. My father, his two brothers and sister all grew up in the area and would have been school age at the time of the incident.

I'll be seeing my father this Friday, I'll see if he has any stories to tell me. If there's anything to tell, I'll be sure to let you know.


Thanks Zod...yes, please do have a chat to your father, and if he, or your uncles and aunt recall anything at all, I would love to hear back from you.

Were they students at Westall High School or Westall State School in 1966, do you know? (If so, I can send them an invitation to the get-together to mark the 45th anniversary of the flying saucer incident, being held at Westall Primary School in April.)

Cheers,

Shane.
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Actually I meant soccer ground. :-) How I saw a tennis court is beyond me. We lived on Clayton Rd, close to Murdock Street. There was large area of vacant land next door, now occupied by houses. The house still stands. I have emailed you a placemark.
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Sorry Shane, I missed out on this by one generation. It's my grandfather that lives right in the middle of Brady Ave. My father, his two brothers and sister all grew up in the area and would have been school age at the time of the incident.

I'll be seeing my father this Friday, I'll see if he has any stories to tell me. If there's anything to tell, I'll be sure to let you know.


Thanks Zod...yes, please do have a chat to your father, and if he, or your uncles and aunt recall anything at all, I would love to hear back from you.

Were they students at Westall High School or Westall State School in 1966, do you know? (If so, I can send them an invitation to the get-together to mark the 45th anniversary of the flying saucer incident, being held at Westall Primary School in April.)

Cheers,

Shane.


It's been many years since the last time childhood schools entered discussion so I'll need to check who went where and get back to you. I think my aunt went to Westall High, and I know I'd heard mention of Clayton Tech at some time.

My grandfather was a teacher at the time, it may have been at Westall Primary for a period but I'll need to confirm, he's alive and well, I'm sure he'd make an interesting visitor at your little get-together in April.
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For a close look at what the area is like today, check out nearmap, far more detail than google maps and update alot more often, though you can still look at previous snapshots.

This is zoomed on Westall High to start you in the right area.
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