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TOP KILL SHOT WATCH. LIVE COVERAGE ! *UPDATE - "CRITICAL SETBACK"!!! NEW GIANT OIL PLUME SEEN IN GULF 22 MILES TO ALABAMA! PAGE 130

 
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@ Rob

Yeah, presure reading ..
the last 2 numbers were going up and down ;)
I saw the numbers change.
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Is there anymore footage or screen shots of the pipe that was down in the crater, spewing out oil, and exploding every couple of day? LOL sounds crazy, but cant describe it any other way.
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Goodnight everyone ....

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Goodnight everyone ....
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sleep well...no pun intended
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Are there any cams that show the Riser anymore?

Are there any multi-cam news feeds anymore?

Thanks,
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when this well drains of its oil, it will also drain of it's support, and eventually collapse.

goodbuh southern US
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May 25, 2010
To: Members of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
Fr: Chairmen Henry A. Waxman and Bart Stupak
Re: Key Questions Arising from Inquiry into the Deepwater Horizon Gulf of Mexico
Oil Spill


On Wednesday May 12, 2010, the Committee on Energy and Commerce’s Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations held a hearing entitled, “Inquiry into the Deepwater Horizon Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill.” In preparation for that hearing, Committee staff reviewed over 105,000 pages of internal documents from BP, Transocean, Halliburton, and Cameron. Committee staff spoke with representatives from each of the companies, numerous federal regulators, independent scientists, academic experts, and members of communities affected by the oil spill. The Committee has continued its investigation following the hearing. Today, Committee staff was briefed on the progress of BP’s internal investigation of the causes of the blowout and the oil spill.

The interim report the Committee received from BP is preliminary and based only on incomplete evidence that BP knows at this time. It confirms many of the issues raised by the Committee at its hearing. The interim report also raises significant new questions.


The information from BP identifies several new warning signs of problems. According to BP there were three flow indicators from the well before the explosion. One was 51 minutes before the explosion when more fluid began flowing out of the well than was being pumped in. Another flow indicator was 41 minutes before the explosion when the pump was shut down for a “sheen” test, yet the well continued to flow instead of stopping and drill pipe pressure also unexpectedly increased.

Then, 18 minutes before the explosion, abnormal pressures and mud returns were observed and the pump was abruptly shut down. The data suggests that the crew may have attempted mechanical interventions at that point to control the pressure, but soon after, the flow out and pressure increased dramatically and the explosion took place.


Further, BP’s preliminary findings indicate that there were other events in the 24 hours before the explosion that require further inquiry. As early as 5:05 p.m., almost 5 hours before the explosion, an unexpected loss of fluid was observed in the riser pipe, suggesting that there
were leaks in the annular preventer in the BOP
.

Four hours before the explosion, during efforts to begin negative pressure testing, the system gained 15 barrels of liquid instead of the 5 barrels that were expected, leading to the possibility that there was an “influx from the well.”

A cementer witness stated that the “well continued to flow and spurted.” Having received an unacceptable result from conducting the negative pressure test through the drill pipe, the pressure test was then moved to the kill line where a volume of fluid came out when the line was opened.

The kill line was then closed and the procedure was discussed; during this time, pressure began to build in the system to 1400 psi. At this point, the line was opened and pressure on the kill line was bled to 0 psi, while pressure on the drill pipe remained at 1400 psi.

BP’s investigator indicated that a “fundamental mistake” may have been made here because this was an “indicator of a very large abnormality.” The kill line then was monitored and by 7:55 p.m. the rig team was “satisfied that [the] test [was] successful.” At that time, the rig started displacing the remaining fluids with seawater, leading to the three flow indicators described above.

Several concerns identified by BP relate to the cementing process. Cement work that was supposed to hold back hydrocarbons failed, allowing the hydrocarbons into the well bore. The float collar used in the cementing process did not initially operate as intended and required 9 attempts with higher than usual pressures to function properly. Moreover, the float test performed after cementing may not have been definitive, leading to concern that there may have been contamination of the cement due to density differences between the cement and the drilling mud.


In addition, key questions exist about whether proper procedures were followed for critical activities throughout the day. Negative pressure testing was initially done on the drill pipe rather than the kill line, even though the drill plan specified that it would be done on the kill line. After anomalous results, the negative pressure testing was conducted on the kill line and ultimately accepted.

Evidence suggests that spacer fluid used during the displacement of drilling fluid with seawater did not rise above the BOP to the level required by the drilling plan; this increased pressure in the drill pipe and may have interfered with later pressure testing. In addition, the method of displacing the drilling mud with seawater may have interfered with the monitoring of the flow levels from the well because the mud was transferred to another boat instead of measured in the mud pits. Moreover, mudloggers were not informed when the offloading of drilling mud to the other boat was stopped.


Several concerns about the blowout preventer were identified by BP including the failure of its emergency disconnect system (EDS), the failure of its automated mode function or deadman switch, the failure of the BOP’s shearing functions, and the failure of the remote operated vehicle interventions. The BP investigation has also raised concerns about the maintenance history, modification, inspection, and testing of the BOP.



[link to energycommerce.house.gov]



Bottom line, we know there is a major problem with the BOP, we know that there is a major problem with the methane hydrates “abnormality” in that area of the Gulf, we know that there were multiple problems that the BP engineers and drillers were unable to anticipate, recognize and avoid while drilling the first well.

Now we expect BP to fix this by pumping miracle mud, against the laws of physics into a damaged BOP that was leaking before the catastrophe originally rated for 15,000 psi in perfect shape against 13,000 psi of escaping oil and dangerously unpredictable methane hydrates.

We also have cement that doesn't behave predictably when exposed to methane hydrates. BP is also drilling the relief wells into the same unstable layers. What’s wrong with this picture?

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[I havent read all the recent posts so forgive me if its already been said...]

Somebody is lying bigtime, period. CNN's Anderson Cooper said(among other news media and gov sources) that they halted the mud pumping around midnight and restarted it sometime today around 4 pm, and variations of that.

That is absolutely false unless they are pumping an extremely tiny amount of mud, or unless the 'live feed' they are showing is in fact not a live feed at all.

---> I along with many others have been watching the supposed live feed since yesterday. The damn leak on the BOP riser area has NOT changed in this time. If mud pumping was started and stopped, you would ahve noticed a difference. I was watching almost non stop from around 6pm yest until 4am this morn and it didnt change. It hasnt changed today or tonight either.

SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING DISCREPENCY!? WHO THE FUCK IS LYING AND ABOUT WHAT!?
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[I havent read all the recent posts so forgive me if its already been said...]

Somebody is lying bigtime, period. CNN's Anderson Cooper said(among other news media and gov sources) that they halted the mud pumping around midnight and restarted it sometime today around 4 pm, and variations of that.

That is absolutely false unless they are pumping an extremely tiny amount of mud, or unless the 'live feed' they are showing is in fact not a live feed at all.

---> I along with many others have been watching the supposed live feed since yesterday. The damn leak on the BOP riser area has NOT changed in this time. If mud pumping was started and stopped, you would ahve noticed a difference. I was watching almost non stop from around 6pm yest until 4am this morn and it didnt change. It hasnt changed today or tonight either.

SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING DISCREPENCY!? WHO THE FUCK IS LYING AND ABOUT WHAT!?
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There is a difference in color. It goes all TAN when the mud is pumping. It turns reddish-brown when they stop.
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[I havent read all the recent posts so forgive me if its already been said...]

Somebody is lying bigtime, period. CNN's Anderson Cooper said(among other news media and gov sources) that they halted the mud pumping around midnight and restarted it sometime today around 4 pm, and variations of that.

That is absolutely false unless they are pumping an extremely tiny amount of mud, or unless the 'live feed' they are showing is in fact not a live feed at all.

---> I along with many others have been watching the supposed live feed since yesterday. The damn leak on the BOP riser area has NOT changed in this time. If mud pumping was started and stopped, you would ahve noticed a difference. I was watching almost non stop from around 6pm yest until 4am this morn and it didnt change. It hasnt changed today or tonight either.

SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING DISCREPENCY!? WHO THE FUCK IS LYING AND ABOUT WHAT!?



There is a difference in color. It goes all TAN when the mud is pumping. It turns reddish-brown when they stop.
 Quoting: fillup


The riser leaks' on the live feed that was shown on BP's site DID NOT change from 6pm yesterday until 4am this morning. Drilling mud is significantly denser than crude. There was no change.

There was a slight change in lighting and tone of the entire shot, but not of just the leak itself when corrected for that. Either no mud was pumped during that time period, or the live feed was not a true live feed.
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[I havent read all the recent posts so forgive me if its already been said...]

Somebody is lying bigtime, period. CNN's Anderson Cooper said(among other news media and gov sources) that they halted the mud pumping around midnight and restarted it sometime today around 4 pm, and variations of that.

That is absolutely false unless they are pumping an extremely tiny amount of mud, or unless the 'live feed' they are showing is in fact not a live feed at all.

---> I along with many others have been watching the supposed live feed since yesterday. The damn leak on the BOP riser area has NOT changed in this time. If mud pumping was started and stopped, you would ahve noticed a difference. I was watching almost non stop from around 6pm yest until 4am this morn and it didnt change. It hasnt changed today or tonight either.

SO WHERE IS THE FUCKING DISCREPENCY!? WHO THE FUCK IS LYING AND ABOUT WHAT!?



There is a difference in color. It goes all TAN when the mud is pumping. It turns reddish-brown when they stop.


The riser leaks' on the live feed that was shown on BP's site DID NOT change from 6pm yesterday until 4am this morning. Drilling mud is significantly denser than crude. There was no change.

There was a slight change in lighting and tone of the entire shot, but not of just the leak itself when corrected for that. Either no mud was pumped during that time period, or the live feed was not a true live feed.
 Quoting: Ratla 961537



I have screen captures of the color changes. Let me check.

7:26pm Central - TAN (pumping mud)
7:51pm Central - TAN (pumping mud)
7:57pm Central - Reddish-brown (not pumping mud)
8:11pm Central - Reddish-brown (not pumping mud)
8:23pm Central - TAN (pumping mud)
9:26pm Central - TAN (pumping mud)
10:05pm Central - Reddish-brown (not pumping mud)
all the rest are Reddish-brown (not pumping mud)

That matches what Doug Suttles (BP Chief Operating Officer) said in his news conference today. He said they started pumping mud yesterday, then stopped, then started again, then stopped before midnight Eastern time.
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Looks like they're pumping mud again.
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Looks like they're pumping mud again.
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yep bp confirms they have started back up pumpin mud
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Look at it fight...pulsing...wow..hope it works this time around....sure does look like a dull gray color.
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Look at it fight...pulsing...wow..hope it works this time around....sure does look like a dull gray color.
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Yep. That gray tan color means they're pumping mud. When they stop pumping it changes back to reddish-brown color.
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Did a new crack open up on the far left hand side? I see a plume there that I haven't noticed before.
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Did a new crack open up on the far left hand side? I see a plume there that I haven't noticed before.
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as well as on the right just above the time stamp
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Is anyone else watching the feed anticipating (not hoping) that at any moment the cam/rov will just explode before our eyes with all of the mud being pumped into there?
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How far is the BOP off of the sea floor?
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Is anyone else watching the feed anticipating (not hoping) that at any moment the cam/rov will just explode before our eyes with all of the mud being pumped into there?
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Wow... been gone a while and back to see this... the white plume on the center right... how is that happeneing.
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The plume in the bottom right corner is growing before our very eyes!!!!!
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How far is the BOP off of the sea floor?
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It is about 50 feet tall -- and attached to the well head -- what we are seeing now is the riser pipe and that is another 5 or 10 feet up...

Not sure how much between the sea floor - well head -- and BOP.
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The plume in the bottom right corner is growing before our very eyes!!!!!
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I think the pipe to the left -- where the rover has clamped down -- had completely fractured -- yesterday it just started to show a leak...
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Is anyone else watching the feed anticipating (not hoping) that at any moment the cam/rov will just explode before our eyes with all of the mud being pumped into there?
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i am!


BY A SHOW OF HANDS...

Who Wants This Attempt To Fail ???



I do. hi
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The plume in the bottom right corner is growing before our very eyes!!!!!



I think the pipe to the left -- where the rover has clamped down -- had completely fractured -- yesterday it just started to show a leak...
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Adding... pic of pipe from 4 pm yesterday...

[link to screencast.com]

now totally fractured.
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The plume in the bottom right corner is growing before our very eyes!!!!!



I think the pipe to the left -- where the rover has clamped down -- had completely fractured -- yesterday it just started to show a leak...
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The one on the bottom right now has TWO LEAKS!!!!!!!!
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RECORDING FAILURE??????????????WTF
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RECORDING FAILURE??????????????WTF
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and I caught it this time!

[link to screencast.com]
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I really wish I controlled one of those ROV's! cool2
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Look at it fight...pulsing...wow..hope it works this time around....sure does look like a dull gray color.



Yep. That gray tan color means they're pumping mud. When they stop pumping it changes back to reddish-brown color.
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For comparison, here is a pic grabbed last week of the BOP.
[link to www.digitaloutpost.net]

I pulled it from the OP in this thread which was started on 5/21 Thread: NEW IMAGES I JUST CAPTURED....BOP OIL SPILL!!!!! <<<<<<<<

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