Russia sends its mightiest warships for drills off Korean Coast | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 980777 United States 05/26/2010 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, so which Korea are they going to be helping north or south? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 975529If its north, i would completely cut ties with Russia if i were President because of all the shenanigans they have been pulling lately. Best remember who your president is. |
deathfromabove User ID: 982725 United States 05/26/2010 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You assume I'm interested in sides, and being part of a group 'us' Quoting: Celtic (woad-man)I mean no harm, but no government, no navy or any other branch of any nations armed forces represent me in any way. They have their own program to adhere to; imho, it is not wise to view even your own armed forces as representing us. And no, I'm not avoiding your questions, I just don't believe military agencies are working for the greater good of any individual people, or an alliance of nations Military forces are the activist branch of governments and politicians, who are given their remit by less than peaceful entities. sorry i understand, and your 100% right. i just look at my 3 year old daughter and worry about her future when i see tensions starting to mount in the world. us as a species need to quit seeing who has the biggest dick and get down to solving the real issues that is plaguing the planet |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 589354 South Korea 05/26/2010 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | routine exercises as per every two years like it says dildos, nothing unusual Quoting: Celtic (woad-man)so, why not move the exercises or postpone them until things settle down? russia is looking for a reason to tangle with us Tangle with us Who exactly is 'us'? The West? The U.S., or the U.N.? Russia is a former superpwer, who's aim may be to have as much 'clout' as those who would demonize 'Russia' This is a flawed line of thinking, imho, and just aids to perpetuate differences among different (perceptions of) human societies who do you think russia will side with? not the united states. sides will be chosen and N Korea, China and Iran are old buddies You assume I'm interested in sides, and being part of a group 'us' I mean no harm, but no government, no navy or any other branch of any nations armed forces represent me in any way. They have their own program to adhere to; imho, it is not wise to view even your own armed forces as representing us. And no, I'm not avoiding your questions, I just don't believe military agencies are working for the greater good of any individual people, or an alliance of nations Military forces are the activist branch of governments and politicians, who are given their remit by less than peaceful entities. True. Your analysis at an elevated level does not conflict with mine at a detail level. Surely certain side is trying to impose their will upon another. And another is responding, naturally. Where the wrong has begun? Still those controlling this world see war as an effective tool to settle the difference, and people don't see the wrong of that premise. For all euphoric talks about the coming great new world, I see a long way to go. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 977776 United States 05/26/2010 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.sectsco.org] They don't come out and say they are military allies, but they've been running drills together and it was formed to counter NATO. |
Celtic (woad-man) User ID: 961113 United Kingdom 05/26/2010 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia post Soviet era navy is a shell of its former glory, as is most of it's military. Not much of a story here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982415The story is, that we're being spoon fed what we should consider news, and the more or bigger reaction we have to it, merely increases the notion that these tactics are effective, though not as effective as they once were Peace to all It is the Thunderbolt that steers the Universe - Heraclitus |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 982415 United States 05/26/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia post Soviet era navy is a shell of its former glory, as is most of it's military. Not much of a story here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977776They still got a shit-ton of nukes. Oh yea. Between the USA and Russia we could destroy the Earth quite a few times with all our nukes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975529 United States 05/26/2010 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You assume I'm interested in sides, and being part of a group 'us' Quoting: deathfromaboveI mean no harm, but no government, no navy or any other branch of any nations armed forces represent me in any way. They have their own program to adhere to; imho, it is not wise to view even your own armed forces as representing us. And no, I'm not avoiding your questions, I just don't believe military agencies are working for the greater good of any individual people, or an alliance of nations Military forces are the activist branch of governments and politicians, who are given their remit by less than peaceful entities. sorry i understand, and your 100% right. i just look at my 3 year old daughter and worry about her future when i see tensions starting to mount in the world. us as a species need to quit seeing who has the biggest dick and get down to solving the real issues that is plaguing the planet True, but when you have world domination in mind ..like all the big nations do now, including the United States under the Obama administration, its hard to stop and smell the roses. The only way out is to get rid of the world leaders we have now and start over, and that can only be done by voting them out of office, or ousting them by force. This one world government they keep talking about will never happen because the Communist countries will never join, they like their communism and socialism, they would never agree to a one world government, so it would still be the free world against the oppressed world of Communism, nothing changed. I cannot see why those who want a one world government cannot see this, there efforts are futile. We all need to just start over, defend our own borders and keep our noses out of other countries business, if they fail ..let them..then that was the way it was supposed to be. The greatest gift we could give our children would be if all nations would dismantle all nuclear weapons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 671825 United States 05/26/2010 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, so which Korea are they going to be helping north or south? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 975529If its north, i would completely cut ties with Russia if i were President because of all the shenanigans they have been pulling lately. When all the SHTF, he'll likely be on vacation in Moscow...so, how do you think that one will play out? |
The Venture Bros. (OP) User ID: 940336 Canada 05/26/2010 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia post Soviet era navy is a shell of its former glory, as is most of it's military. Not much of a story here. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982415They still got a shit-ton of nukes. Oh yea. Between the USA and Russia we could destroy the Earth quite a few times with all our nukes. Britain just copped to having 225 on their wee little isle. Now how about France, Germany etc..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982415 United States 05/26/2010 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia post Soviet era navy is a shell of its former glory, as is most of it's military. Not much of a story here. Quoting: The Venture Bros.They still got a shit-ton of nukes. Oh yea. Between the USA and Russia we could destroy the Earth quite a few times with all our nukes. Britain just copped to having 225 on their wee little isle. Now how about France, Germany etc..... A number of nations have nukes. But Russia and the United States have the majority of them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 972101 Canada 05/26/2010 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What, no Aircraft Carriers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 583942oh that's right, russia can't make one. They don't need aircraft carriers. They abandoned that red herring in the mid 90"s. The invested in some of the most if not the most devastating anti ship missiles in the world. Try the SSN-22 on for size. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 583942 United States 05/26/2010 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What, no Aircraft Carriers? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982790oh that's right, russia can't make one. aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov google it moran... Your right, im a moran but your a dumb fuck a quote from your link "This surface-to-surface armament is required because the ship is an aircraft-carrying cruiser" ok, dumbfuck? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 842974 United States 05/26/2010 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | understand that if we get in this shit, we will be done as a global force. we are stretched thin as it is! we won't have anybody to protect the borders. RED DAWN!!!! Quoting: deathfromaboveyou truly have no idea as to the capabilities of the USA military, do you? You really dont understand the numbers that are positioned around the globe? |
D. Bunker 05/26/2010 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They had just finished such drills very recently. [link to en.rian.ru] :savetata: Favorite Quote - "I just fucking love outer space, it has all those planets and stars and shit." - Mister Obvious 2009 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 956943 United States 05/26/2010 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | routine exercises as per every two years like it says dildos, nothing unusual Quoting: Celtic (woad-man)so, why not move the exercises or postpone them until things settle down? russia is looking for a reason to tangle with us Tangle with us Who exactly is 'us'? The West? The U.S., or the U.N.? Russia is a former superpwer, who's aim may be to have as much 'clout' as those who would demonize 'Russia' This is a flawed line of thinking, imho, and just aids to perpetuate differences among different (perceptions of) human societies How dare you use logic, reason, and big words on this forum! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 982888 Australia 05/26/2010 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | whos got the biggest armies .....? here are the ratings, from tanks to personel// [link to www.globalfirepower.com] . |
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paullstanley User ID: 946482 United States 05/26/2010 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Russian navy is there to protect its own turf in the event of a new Korean conflict, nothing more.Russia hasnt the naval surface ability to project power in that area if it goes hot. The US Pacific fleet alone has more firepower than the entire Russian navy. coupled with the Japanese fleet, who would be involved,and the SK navy, Russia would not see much glory at sea. BUT to stop Kim from trying to draw Russia into the fray,with false flags,Russia should have its military on full alert. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 935368I do not believe North Korea is the only Nation that would love to spring a false flag. There is a lot of things going down simultaneously with the POTUS showing strong detachments from his responsibilities. Could either be seen as a weakeness(having oil leak, numerous involvements in current conflicts, seeming to be loosing traction in financing, ect ect) or just the perfect storm other Nations have been waiting for to actually have some sort of platform to voice what they want and have some weight to throw behind their words. Nothing i enjoy more than a tall glass of lemonade and telling the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982888 Australia 05/26/2010 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Russian navy is there to protect its own turf in the event of a new Korean conflict, nothing more.Russia hasnt the naval surface ability to project power in that area if it goes hot. The US Pacific fleet alone has more firepower than the entire Russian navy. coupled with the Japanese fleet, who would be involved,and the SK navy, Russia would not see much glory at sea. BUT to stop Kim from trying to draw Russia into the fray,with false flags,Russia should have its military on full alert. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 935368you 'ass you me' that 'countries' act in their own best interest. when in fact, they do the fuck what they are told. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982711 United States 05/26/2010 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | routine exercises as per every two years like it says dildos, nothing unusual Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982771true...Russkies told us today they are planning this next month...2 days after this.... WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said Monday it plans to participate in new military exercises with South Korea, the first direct military response from the United States to the sinking of a South Korean warship by what officials called a North Korean torpedo. Bryan G. Whitman, the Pentagon spokesman, said U.S. forces will participate in an anti-submarine maneuver in "the near future." In a second planned exercise, U.S. units along with South Korea and possibly other regional allies will work to improve their ability to interdict cargo ships carrying arms or other prohibited materials to or from North Korea. The exercises were announced Monday in Seoul by the South Korean defense ministry, following a nationwide address by President Lee Myung Bak in which he ordered a halt to most trade with the north, and closed all sea lanes between the nations. Later Monday, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon further intensified pressure on North Korea by declaring in New York that "there must be some measures taken" to respond to the North's attack. Ban, speaking at a news conference, didn't specify the steps. -L.A.Times [link to www.latimes.com] |
paullstanley User ID: 946482 United States 05/26/2010 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | routine exercises as per every two years like it says dildos, nothing unusual Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982711true...Russkies told us today they are planning this next month...2 days after this.... WASHINGTON — The Pentagon said Monday it plans to participate in new military exercises with South Korea, the first direct military response from the United States to the sinking of a South Korean warship by what officials called a North Korean torpedo. Bryan G. Whitman, the Pentagon spokesman, said U.S. forces will participate in an anti-submarine maneuver in "the near future." In a second planned exercise, U.S. units along with South Korea and possibly other regional allies will work to improve their ability to interdict cargo ships carrying arms or other prohibited materials to or from North Korea. The exercises were announced Monday in Seoul by the South Korean defense ministry, following a nationwide address by President Lee Myung Bak in which he ordered a halt to most trade with the north, and closed all sea lanes between the nations. Later Monday, U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon further intensified pressure on North Korea by declaring in New York that "there must be some measures taken" to respond to the North's attack. Ban, speaking at a news conference, didn't specify the steps. -L.A.Times [link to www.latimes.com] Think Hillary would set this shit up to make O look bad? Nothing i enjoy more than a tall glass of lemonade and telling the truth. |