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Anonymous Coward User ID: 979420 United States 05/27/2010 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The weight of the MUD has to equal or be greater than the force of the well. They are losing a load of pressure through those leaks. They haven't been able to get enough MUD weight in the well to overcome the well pressure yet, because if they had it would be cement time and you wouldn't see anything leaking from those holes. Time will tell, but it looks to be in vain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 657943good post and you are thinking it out after they started with what they are calling the Top Kill they had to know the well DP pressure they worked for a week rebuilding the BOP the best they could with the ROVs they knew that they would hit the BOP and piping with extra pressure they are now pumping the mud at a positive pressure vs well head DP pressure allowing mud to flow positive into the well head of course your going to see massive mud flow at a higher rate than the oil flow you saw before they started this process they are trying to weight the well head to gain some well head pressure control and then start the cement process they have heavy mud and they also have a well that because it is positive venting is as substantialy higher pressure than the sea at that depth as such in order to stop the leak they need to push in enough mud to overcome the Delta P of the well fine if they start hafway down the "straw" as the positive pressure willpush the mud up the straw until sufficient mud head is in place. Hwever they are startin near the uncapped top of the straw. i.e. near the opening to sea how are they going to pump enough material in to overcome the oil pressure when they have an opening nearer to the mud insertion point that is at far lower pressure. All the mud will take the path of least resistance and flow straight back out of the lower pressure opening. how are they going to pump enough material in to overcome the oil pressure when they have an opening nearer to the mud insertion point that is at far lower pressure. All the mud will take the path of least resistance and flow straight back out of the lower pressure opening. great question that cuts to the core of the issue the flow restriction of the BOP has to be smaller than than the well a balance of flow if the vents we see leaking on the live cams or smaller than the flow being pumped that would mean the excess flow would be going into the well head do I have those facts ? no I would hope BP does and more is going into the well head than leaking out the vents or leaks we are seeing |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 979420 United States 05/27/2010 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The weight of the MUD has to equal or be greater than the force of the well. They are losing a load of pressure through those leaks. They haven't been able to get enough MUD weight in the well to overcome the well pressure yet, because if they had it would be cement time and you wouldn't see anything leaking from those holes. Time will tell, but it looks to be in vain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 919898good post and you are thinking it out after they started with what they are calling the Top Kill they had to know the well DP pressure they worked for a week rebuilding the BOP the best they could with the ROVs they knew that they would hit the BOP and piping with extra pressure they are now pumping the mud at a positive pressure vs well head DP pressure allowing mud to flow positive into the well head of course your going to see massive mud flow at a higher rate than the oil flow you saw before they started this process they are trying to weight the well head to gain some well head pressure control and then start the cement process Thanks ice, I'm across the gulf here at Gulf Shores, so I hope they get it stopped and maybe clean up what's coming on shore or left in the water. This has been and will be some more job to undertake. I go to Gulf Shores often we can hope and pray this works it is our best hope |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 973483 Canada 05/27/2010 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sheesh...if someone speaks truth, i don't care who or what they are or how they look Quoting: sad how ignorant u are 983065Exactly. I don't know who Rachael Maddow is, but I thought this was an excellent video. The correlations between the two events are eerie. And nothing has changed except the depth. |
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The Conservative Monster User ID: 747310 United States 05/27/2010 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It looks like it is working..... Rachel Maddow pinned? God help us Last Edited by The Conservative Monster on 05/27/2010 09:05 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 983300 United States 05/27/2010 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i can't see this video...can someone please tell me where the link can be accessed. thanks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981643[link to www.youtube.com] so...relief wells may be the only solution. and lots of praying... |
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Me114 User ID: 596184 United States 05/27/2010 09:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864188[link to www.msnbc.msn.com] and.. [link to pesn.com] The truth is surfacing.. the only weird thing is that most of it is coming straight from the MSM... Scares the shit out of me! you should make its own thread for the msnbc interview :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
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teamster User ID: 878454 United States 05/27/2010 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well that leak was like in 170' deep.. this one is a mile deep... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 419649Well I wonder why they have to go out and drill in such deep waters in the first place. It couldn't be because of the environmental nazi's that fought so hard to keep the drilling away from our shores could it? . This is a must see video......This woman describes why we have, and should protect our second amendment. [link to video.google.com] . . Rights do not require government registration, certification, or approval, and are not subject to any form of taxation — otherwise they are not rights, they are privileges granted at the discretion of the government, controlled by the government, and revocable by the government. By Brian Puckett. [link to www.geoffmetcalf.com] |
ProvenPatriot User ID: 885781 United States 05/27/2010 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox news reporting that bp states the top kill is working.! cementing to start soon! Looking for a hard link... Man I really hope so... Last Edited by MacktasticShagswell on 05/27/2010 09:21 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 952810 United States 05/27/2010 09:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're screwed...royally. Imagine 9 months of this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983300they used salt water back then and now they are using drilling mudd. we shall see isn't bentonite used in drilling mud ?? isn't it sticky ?? clings to oil maybe ?? Bentonite is not sticky, just slimy like clay when wet.... It is used in hydocolator hot packs. I'm not sure how it interacts with oil. |
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Joes Bar and Grill User ID: 941140 Norway 05/27/2010 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Top kill' operation to plug Gulf oil spill is going as planned, BP says, By Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune, May 26, 2010, 9:03PM [link to www.nola.com] Just looking at the plumes isn't very reassuring yet, though. The mud is inching down the hole, it seems. |
Me114 User ID: 596184 United States 05/27/2010 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously.... can someone turn off this B-Movie? Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanthis video and the msnbc one with the two experts should go VIRAL! :rolleyes: :ura: Sweet Thoughts! I Unknown Depths of Love, You. What Happens Next Loves me. Help me Jesus, Life will let me know. Living is Effortless Normal God Inside, Outside, Everywhere, Forever! Executive Order 13603 means slavery in the usa Thread: The End of All Things Is Upon Us - An Urgent Message from Father God Thread: Nothing is Something and Non-Existence must Exist Thread: Not Knowing is Essential to Eternal Life! Thread: Let's talk about the Evil-Mind-Beings (EMB) Thread: ALERT! Father God says, now, " I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it" Thread: WE CAN DEFEAT THE ANTICHRIST !!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 754773 United States 05/27/2010 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 'Top kill' operation to plug Gulf oil spill is going as planned, BP says, By Jaquetta White, The Times-Picayune, May 26, 2010, 9:03PM Quoting: Joes Bar and Grill 941140[link to www.nola.com] Just looking at the plumes isn't very reassuring yet, though. The mud is inching down the hole, it seems. The original operation was going as planned till SHTF. I still think this isn't going to work, but I hope it does. They don't know where the mud is going. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 983192 United States 05/27/2010 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fox news reporting that bp states the top kill has worked! cementing to start soon! Looking for a hard link... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 973625Man I really hope so... They were told but no proof yet. Besides they even showed the oil leak still gushing but they say it's mud flowing. This is great news if its true, still shits pissing out of it though, if its just mud this may be working, how ever if its still mud, oil, and gas is still a concern. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 901059 United States 05/27/2010 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to spoil your doom but it will work. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982418Ummm, the Top Kill operation failed back then with shallower waters, less pressures behind the oil, same pipe diameters. Only an idiot would believe it will work this time when it CLEARLY has failed then. Why would it be so different now? It's not. This shit WILL continue until the relief well is drilled. End game...by then, 1.587 billion gallons will spill into the GoM. 5.88 million gal/day (140k bbl/day) for 9 months. That is enough to kill 1,587,000,000,000,000 or 1,587 TRILLION gallons of seawater. 1,587 TRILLION gallons of water dead with NO LIFE. Un-fucking-real!!! |
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NewBeginnings User ID: 628029 United States 05/27/2010 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | History Lesson for ROV's In the 1950s the Royal Navy used "Cutlet", a remotely operated submersible, to recover practice torpedoes. The US Navy funded most of the early ROV technology development in the 1960s into what was then named a "Cable-Controlled Underwater Recovery Vehicle" (CURV). This created the capability to perform deep-sea rescue operation and recover objects from the ocean floor, such as a nuclear bomb lost in the Mediterranean Sea after the 1966 Palomares B-52 crash. Building on this technology base; the offshore oil & gas industry created the work class ROVs to assist in the development of offshore oil fields. More than a decade after they were first introduced, ROVs became essential in the 1980s when much of the new offshore development exceeded the reach of human divers. Yeah, they became ESSENTIAL in 1980....after the Gulf of Mexico had a blow out. My anthem to the shills of GLP: We're never gonna, believe in, the stories, that you're weavin' We're believin' in the proof, we're believin' in the truth We're believin' in each other, not you, you, you (Bang Bang Bang - Mark Ronson) ------------------------------------ Janey's "doesntwannabeglpsobad" ~Google It~ ------------------------------------ “Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.” - Robert Anton Wilson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 359897 United States 05/27/2010 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can they put cement in a well shooting out 50000 barrels of mud a day. Do they think we are stupid. Look at the damn thing, it's still gushing. Quoting: ºCRAPº+1 We all see you never took physics. Give it a another 24 hours to see if it reverses the flow. Have a little hope. |