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UNLEASHED User ID: 971545 United States 05/27/2010 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read that Wiki description of the drilling mud. Hmmm, so I'll see your possibility of this being an equally bad leak of toxic sludge, and I'll raise you, that part of all those redundant ships full of it are there for the two "relief" wells being drilled. Not necessarily for the "top kill". |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 973483 Canada 05/27/2010 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983400 From the article: The pressure at the site is low, but must be reduced to zero before engineers can begin to pump cement into the hole. It has NOT worked because all it is doing is forcing out mudd instead of oil and gas. The pressure is still quite hard! |
Resister User ID: 669410 United States 05/27/2010 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're screwed...royally. Imagine 9 months of this. Quoting: EnemyofManWow. Thank you OP. If there is something possitive we can draw from this it is that in spite of an identical disaster, the Gulf appearantly recovered so well that none of us ever new it had happened before. It can recover again. "God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 983400 Mexico 05/27/2010 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | An earlier version of this story termed the effort "successful." Officials clarified that neither government nor BP officials had declared the effort a success yet. They caution that only after the cementing is complete and the well is sealed can the top kill be called successful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 983354 Puerto Rico 05/27/2010 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How can they put cement in a well shooting out 50000 barrels of mud a day. Do they think we are stupid. Look at the damn thing, it's still gushing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 669834I started a thread the other day about that. If the BOP has 4 leaks, and the riser pipe another huge leak, just how the hell is this mud supposed close that up? It will just get blown out the leak holes. I think they are just buying time, pretending to do something to try and keep the anger from rising more. The only solution is the relief wells and that's two months off. And the amount of oil coming out? check this -> [link to pesn.com] |
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NewBeginnings User ID: 628029 United States 05/27/2010 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are sure getting a lot of mixed messages. Quoting: Inita RichmanIt is working It is not working It is working It is not working. Step right up ladies and gentlemen and place your bets My bet is that it is working as it is supposed to while they are pumping mud...after they stop pumping mud it'll get pushed back out with the pressure and they will call it a fail. Now if they are real stupid they will put the cement in and it will blow all to hell from the pressure. My anthem to the shills of GLP: We're never gonna, believe in, the stories, that you're weavin' We're believin' in the proof, we're believin' in the truth We're believin' in each other, not you, you, you (Bang Bang Bang - Mark Ronson) ------------------------------------ Janey's "doesntwannabeglpsobad" ~Google It~ ------------------------------------ “Of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong.” - Robert Anton Wilson |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 981411 United States 05/27/2010 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is something possitive we can draw from this it is that in spite of an identical disaster, the Gulf appearantly recovered so well that none of us ever new it had happened before. It can recover again. Quoting: ResisterGoogle Ixtoc 1 170' feet deep below surface and 'only' 3-5 million gallons total spiiled in the 9 months it took to stop it. This current blowout probably bypassed that in the little over a month it's been spewing, it's also 5000' below surface. |
shadowdancer nli User ID: 287857 United States 05/27/2010 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think anyone has mentioned this yet so I just thought you'd like to know. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 959169The 1979 spill totaled over 9 months IS LESS THAN the total amount of the 2010 spill over 1 month. Duration of the spill is LESS important than the MAGNITUDE of the spill. Yes magnitude is the killer...and this stuff under 5000 feet of ocean water-sub crush depth...and then they had bored a 10" hole 18500+ feet into the sea bed... and the pressure the oil has is FAR GREATER... Additionally I want to highlight the spill of 1979 they may be able to tap the vein but they cannot control the flow or when catastrophe strikes...they cannot solve anything-and the SAME PRoBLEMS they could NOT resolve in 31 yrs... Is something wrong with this picture??? They can access it to rip open the bottom of the sea floor but they cannot stop it from gushing oil...much bigger than Buddy Ebson's hillbilly oil field... Strangely in 1979 it was only a couple hundred feet or 100 feet...took them 9 months due to access problems...and now they STILL have no solution but they went THOUSANDS OF FEET deeper...a mile down in water...and then another 18500+ into the earth and golly gee-oops....Same company Seems Transocean is not as much of an expert as they would have the public believe...In 1979 or 2010 All those BILLIONS and they are still falling onto the "technology" of 1979 You have got to be kidding me...so proprietary they have cut their own JUNK off trying to PROTECT what was a pile of dung...oh, yes, dung has value as a heat source... Transocean THOSE WHO DESTROY THE EARTH SHALL BE DESTROYED The Mothers' pleadings have been ignored, so she will have to yell and VIOLENTLY TWIST AND SHAKE and spew her ire onto us all we will pass through the fire and this just clarifies it for many who have been in denial It serves the oil companies to RUIN the GULF as then the Environmental laws would not apply the same way-protected estuaries covered in oil, groundwater loaded in oil...does not an estuary make Lots of sea mammals, and birds, and whales breeding or birthing-decades will be needed to even dent this disaster THEY HAVE YET TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP I SUGGEST THEY WORK ON CONTAINING THE DAMAGE AND KEEP IT contained Oil is like the blood of the earth...it will naturally clot or attempt to CONGEAL...NATURALLY and if allowed it would...but with the DISPERSANTS = BLEACH and DAWN type surfactant...it lubricates the tarry balls and heavier composites of oil I AM NOT AN EXPERT-This is the 'storehouse' report beyond my understanding or learning-but shown to me 'intuitively'(so to C) Frankly, they will not do this as they have too much pride to admit the depth of their ignorance to the public...and they are too gr33dy to avoid profitting even in these situations...doesn't the B ottomless P it make the TOXIC dispersant they are using when there are others that are MORE EFFECTIVE FAR LESS TOXIC and made by someone other than BP or one of their tentacles... But they will gain by OUR extreme loss In the 70s kissinger said in planned parenthood ads ...'Food and water will be used to control the people'('due to overpopulation)...with rockefellers backing also...rothschild surely helped as well... P.P.,(m. sanger, eugenicist created the agency) and Z biG said recently, "It is easier to kill a million than CONtrol a million." This is a world leader...and he finds it "EASIER" to KILL than to CONtrol??? How many find it easy to kill even ONE??? Or 2,3,4,5,6,7,8...100...1000...10000...100000...1000000... at that point a billion is nothing as well To kill...with his designer suits and ties and customized wear...how does such a supposedly civilized and educated HUMAN find that easy...unless they are like hitler :hitler: or Col Pot...or Jim Jones could of easily done it... and when we find many of the supposed killers of large groups in abrupt acts...have been HANDLED oh the RABBIt hole Whole is unfathomable...deeper than the Bottomless Pit or is it the same hole??? HE11iburton buying the oil rig fire fighting equipment just 10 days or less before this happened makes it very suspicious...and they are the same company that poured the concrete the DAY before this happened...and it FAILED and the fact they make $$$$$$$ off the dispersant....and so on makes it even more unlikely this was a simple error...but maybe PURPOSEFULLY done as they also pulled a SILVERSTEIN shortly before accident...so insurance wise~ THEY WILL MAKE MORE $$$$$$ TO CAUSE MORE DAMAGE TO ENVIRONMENT to BP/Transoceanthan they would make from the oil spewing into the Gulf easing environmental restrictions as WE pay for most of the cleanup and we suffer the health consequences and our coastal rich sea/and coastal lands reduced to a toxic site...for DECADES THIS IS THE TRUTH-check out the facts-please correct me if I am in error...because this is a true tragedy and follows prophesies from biblical revelation and also from Hopi and some other world faiths have indicated this as well-the death of sea creatures-black water-death-starvation...etc...mans choices bring us here... BP WILL MAKE WAY MORE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from the INSURANCE COMPANY than they would make SELLING THE OIL THEY ARE SPEWING INTO OUR AIR, GROUND, OCEAN, SPRINGS, ESTUARIES, ANIMALS, AND HUMANS They recently took out a policy...an ADDITIONAL INSURANCE POLICY much like SILVERSTEIN did 6 weeks prior to 9ll-and he made major money as he got doubled up basically...and COLLECTED IMMENSELY. BP/Transocean are going to make a KI11ING financially as well as LITERALLY-wicked Nanny probably awards points like Holiday Inn...their oil slicked dying bird in their sick card game copyright 2010 It lines up like a custom made glove... |
dowell User ID: 927499 United States 05/27/2010 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is something possitive we can draw from this it is that in spite of an identical disaster, the Gulf appearantly recovered so well that none of us ever new it had happened before. It can recover again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 981411Google Ixtoc 1 170' feet deep below surface and 'only' 3-5 million gallons total spiiled in the 9 months it took to stop it. This current blowout probably bypassed that in the little over a month it's been spewing, it's also 5000' below surface. I was a cementing engineer 30 years ago for DS. The mud they are pumping is just to condition the hole and is standard procedure before they would try a junk shot. The real concern is that the junk shot could cause the bad cement job between the open hole and the outside of the caseing to blow out. Basicly if this happens the hole will continue to erode and will become a oil volcano and will not be fixable. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287857 United States 05/27/2010 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BENZENE all over and quite carcinogenic and it is carried in the winds down there as well...across the peninsula, the state is not very wide... I just cancelled a trip down there-I was going to do some photos and observe...see what was really up A series of "unfortunate" events have unfolded that directed me STRONGLY to avoid the area and stay out of there...so I cancelled flight and room etc as if I were to forge ahead...I have reason to believe I would be making an error, a GRIEVOUS error...and it saddens me as I am a diver as well and know the damage will be untold for a long time, even when others would be UNAWARE, under the water...this in longterm effects is far worst than many know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287857 United States 05/27/2010 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're screwed...royally. Imagine 9 months of this. Quoting: ResisterWow. Thank you OP. If there is something possitive we can draw from this it is that in spite of an identical disaster, the Gulf appearantly recovered so well that none of us ever new it had happened before. It can recover again. identical disaster? No I would not call it identical as the amount of the prior meSS(1979) over 9 month period is LESS than what has flowed from DEEPWATER in a month Identical would NOT be the word used...or we could claim too much baby oil in my bathtub was identical if one wanted to extrapolate it... |
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Posterchild User ID: 928489 Canada 05/27/2010 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're screwed...royally. Imagine 9 months of this. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983384ALREADY HAPPENED IN 1979 FOR 9 MONTHS!!! BIG DEAL AND IT WILL WORK True, but wasn't the 1979 leak/spill under less pressure, and at less depth? I don't think it was spewing enormous amounts methane either! |
ShadowDancer User ID: 287857 United States 05/27/2010 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If there is something possitive we can draw from this it is that in spite of an identical disaster, the Gulf appearantly recovered so well that none of us ever new it had happened before. It can recover again. Quoting: dowell 927499Google Ixtoc 1 170' feet deep below surface and 'only' 3-5 million gallons total spiiled in the 9 months it took to stop it. This current blowout probably bypassed that in the little over a month it's been spewing, it's also 5000' below surface. I was a cementing engineer 30 years ago for DS. The mud they are pumping is just to condition the hole and is standard procedure before they would try a junk shot. The real concern is that the junk shot could cause the bad cement job between the open hole and the outside of the caseing to blow out. Basicly if this happens the hole will continue to erode and will become a oil volcano and will not be fixable. My concern exactly as there appears to be more than one blowing oil and Methane...and the extra pressure from the concrete with mud and JUNK could cause more caverns to be created or to exert far greater pressure and blow the sea bed out completely and then this oil spewing would be secondary ... The rig blew the day after ha11iburton did their "cement job" that was possibly SHODDY so they could test their new oil rig firefighting Company they purchased 10 days prior...all highly suggestive of this not being an "accident" And using archaic tech from 31 yrs before that did not work then...seems asinine-that is the best they can do??? I am not buying it...but they have over reached many times before and no one stopped them... ************************************ fortitudo et spes ************************************ When Japan happened I responded: "The Excrement Has Impacted the Rotary Oscillator." and clearly it has. Thread: The Excrement Is Striking the Rotary Oscillator +++++++++++++++ "Ego et Dominus sumus amici" +++++++++++++++ Ego et mea umbra +++++++++++++++ 'Man does not have the right to develop his own mind. This kind of liberal orientation has great appeal. We must electrically control the brain. Some day armies and generals will be controlled by electric stimulation of the brain.’ - U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Realeyesrealizereallies. C. Thread: GIRD uP as GRID Collapses Thread: Eugenics 101 (Page 27) Thread: Frankenfoods for YOU (Page 2) Thread: I Do Not Consent Thread: FOOD Thread: Cern Power___Colder than Space Thread: Hempilation Compilation Contemplation Thread: Harmonics and Healing (Page 35) Thread: Sarah's Nightmare (Page 10) Thread: Destination Maccabees Thread: Let's Play a GAME Thread: Throat Singing |
UNLEASHED User ID: 971545 United States 05/27/2010 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am going to throw out a theory here I've been thinking about for awhile. We know there were two rigs in proximity to each other. I have read the one that sunk is Deep Horizon #2. Was the other one Deep Horizon #1? So it was done first. This rig can be seen standing in some of the burning rig shots in the background and in numerous flyovers. Is it possible that Horizon #2 is a complete blowout and that it is really damage that was sustained also by Horizon #1 that they are trying to fix to prevent both from going? Maybe it was hit by concussion blast that bent the pipes at it's BOP that we are seeing. Could this be the elephant hiding behind the mouse referred to by the oilmen on Dylan Ratagan? They are looking for a larger leak. It seems rather hard to believe that the explosive release of methane that burnt the Horizon kept the BOP in such good condition that it could be "top killed" under these enormous pressures. But, the fact is, that rig remained standing after the fire on the 20th. Then on the 22nd it sank. WHY? And why no mention of the other rig? Does anyone have any info about this? |
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