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breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful

 
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So let me get this straight.


As LONG as there is an endless supply of mud to ram down this things throat, the crisis is over correct?


I mean can they keep shoving mud down there until a relief well is drilled? How many months of mud do they have?
 Quoting: FatalWishes



No lol they will pump concrete down the well "soon"
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This is all for spin purposes by the WH.
The Kenyan arrives tomorrow.
Every time I say "Obama",
I have to add in Larry Sinclair.
They are having a Steamy Love Affair.
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[link to mfile.akamai.com]

Not according to the above live feed.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
I would like to know what this "mud" consist of?
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YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Cut the vids. Give the B.P. Execs a huge raise and heros medals and go back to american idol folks.
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I read somewhere they don't know where the oil is going to go and have to wait until the mud settles and there is zero pressure.
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
So let me get this straight.

As LONG as there is an endless supply of mud to ram down this things throat, the crisis is over correct?

I mean can they keep shoving mud down there until a relief well is drilled? How many months of mud do they have?
 Quoting: FatalWishes

iamwith
This takes the saying "muddying the waters" to a whole new level of literality. tomato
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
So let me get this straight.


As LONG as there is an endless supply of mud to ram down this things throat, the crisis is over correct?


I mean can they keep shoving mud down there until a relief well is drilled? How many months of mud do they have?



first of all its not really "mud"

it's a toxic mix of nasty shit...

and they only have so much of the mix available..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Right!

In geotechnical engineering, drilling fluid is a fluid used to drill boreholes into the earth. Often used while drilling oil and natural gas wells and on exploration drilling rigs, drilling fluids are also used for much simpler boreholes, such as water wells. Liquid drilling fluid is often called drilling mud. The three main categories of drilling fluids are water-based muds (which can be dispersed and non-dispersed), non-aqueous muds, usually called oil-based mud, and gaseous drilling fluid, in which a wide range of gases can be used.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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This isn't working. No wide shot pulled way the hell back is gonna make me believe that this gusher is any smaller BP.
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
The more mud pumped down, the less oil and gas is escaping around it. Remember that they do believe it's possible that the interior casing is holding, so the mud is pumped down the annular space. There could be a lot of voids to fill. The pressure situation does change actual flow rates so the entire process is pretty slow. If it is just mud we see, this is good news-they just have to keep pumping until they are sure there is enough down there to hold against the pressure from the bottom of the well.

It seems logical that the oil itself could be halted since the mud is heavier than the oil/gas mixture. I would think the hydrates might take a little longer due to composition. Its possible it could take another few days to create and deliver the special concrete for permanent plug.

Keep your fingers crossed that the BOP continues to hold.

"If it is just mud we see"

it is just mud according to sky news

Do you have anyother sources besides your beloved Sky News?
Seriously!
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nope sowwy mate

no faith in sky news friend?
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Well, my optimistic side is telling me that as long the oil is slowed from coming from well, that this is indeed good news, despite whether it was actually permanently killed or not.

If they can at least slow the well for now, then it is at least a positive sign that the monster can be abated, and possibly stopped eventually.
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
So let me get this straight.


As LONG as there is an endless supply of mud to ram down this things throat, the crisis is over correct?


I mean can they keep shoving mud down there until a relief well is drilled? How many months of mud do they have?



first of all its not really "mud"

it's a toxic mix of nasty shit...

and they only have so much of the mix available..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


...unless they contact the democratic party? hiding
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google drilling mud...slurry.
bentonite.
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damn im being reminded of 90s movies alot lately with all of this,

you remember that tactical nuke scene in ID4 Independence day, where the tanks observing the mother ship in night vision and the B2 lets fly with the rocket

it hits, and that defense minister fucktard gets up and screams YES WE HAVE A HIT!!! WOOOOOOO!!!

visibility is cut, shit flys all over the place, video feeds lost.. then it reestablishes and...

then the dust clears.....

and the mothership is still there


now put that in context of this oil thingie
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It would appear from that wiki link I posted this "mud" is just as nasty if not nastier than the oil/crude and gas that was coming out.
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.
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IT WILL WORK IT IS NOT DONE BUT IT WILL WORK

YOU DOOM IS ALWAYS GAY

5a
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"The absence of any news is good news,'' said Coast Guard Admiral Thad Allen, who is overseeing the operation. He added: "It's a wait and see game here right now, so far nothing unfavorable"....

Top kills were used to plug wells in Kuwait that were sabotaged by the withdrawing Iraqi army during the Persian Gulf War of 1990-91. But the technique has never before been attempted in waters of such depth; the mouth of the Deepwater Horizon well lies nearly a mile beneath the ocean's surface.

"We'll determine over the next 24 hours whether that plan has been successful," Doug Suttles, chief operating officer of BP, said at an evening news conference.

Coast Guard Rear Adm. Mary Landry said she was "very encouraged" but added, "I do not want to express optimism until we know for sure" that the procedure is working.



[link to rawstory.com]
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
UPDATE: BP Denies Significant Improvement In Oil Leak, Stock Still Surging


UPDATE: A tweet from BP denied improvement in the leak:"Top kill" operations continued over the night & are ongoing. There are no significant events to report at this time.
The tweet was sent at 8:43 a.m., precisely when the LA Times published its article.
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Now that they have the oil and gas supressed, the will wait a bit to be sire everything is stable for a while. The have to keep the mud circulating, though. The will then add the cement which is quite a bit heavier than the mud. If all goes as planned, the cement will hold the mud down, and the O&G below that. It will set up and stop the flow.

It's not a permanent fix because the cement isn't far enough down the bore hole. The kill well will do that.

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This is all for spin purposes by the WH.
The Kenyan arrives tomorrow.
Every time I say "Obama",
I have to add in Larry Sinclair.
They are having a Steamy Love Affair.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 977055

Obama gave Larry Sinclair a "junk shot".
The problem is pressure.
Nothing has ever been tried at this depth and with this pressure.
The odds are against this working.
They will not announce failure until the President is back in Washington.
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YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

Cut the vids. Give the B.P. Execs a huge raise and heros medals and go back to american idol folks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983281


FYI American Idol last season episode was yesterday so no going back to that until the spring of 2011.
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sky news flash

doom over lol
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Not quite. They are in wait and see mode.

Venice, Louisiana (CNN) -- BP officials may know by Thursday afternoon whether the oil company's latest attempt to cap the runaway leak in the Gulf of Mexico is yielding results.

"I think we just need to take the next 24 hours and actually see what the results are," said BP Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles from Robert, Louisiana.

The operation, known as a "top kill," that began Wednesday afternoon was going according to plan, he said, with drilling mud being applied to the well at a rate of up to 65 barrels per minute.

Coast Guard Rear Admiral Mary Landry, the federal on-scene coordinator, was equally reluctant to draw conclusions.

"While we're very encouraged by some aspects of this procedure, I don't want to express optimism until I know for sure that we've secured the well and the leak has stopped," she told reporters.

[link to www.cnn.com]
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Doesn't look like it's fixed to me..loads of shit coming out.

Supposedly that is all mud... It doesn't have that blood red color, at least...

Please god let this work!
 Quoting: ProvenPatriot


Even if it is successful, we're still fucked due to the insane amount of oil already in the water
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It would appear from that wiki link I posted this "mud" is just as nasty if not nastier than the oil/crude and gas that was coming out.
 Quoting: FatalWishes


So? they are not even close to being done and have to use cement later on etc... zzzzzzzzzz
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nothing is stopped

they just replaced oil flow with mudflow right now
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



agreed^

im actually quite surprised at how quickly people (here especially) are willing to take anything coming from the media at face value anymore....

just cause the sock puppets on tv say its so, doesnt actually make it so......have we not already learned this lesson a billion times over?!
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No lol they will pump concrete down the well "soon"



they will try

but they have tried this before at only 160 ft and it failed..

I wouldn't count on this working..
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



the mud or whateva it is they are pumping down there is flowing "easly"

just a matter of time before they pump the concrete hf
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Doesn't look like it's fixed to me..loads of shit coming out.

My honey was watching the footage of it on TV this morning and he said it wasn't working. He noticed all the mud was being pushed out as fast as they could get it in.
 Quoting: PrincessBride


That's exactly what I figured would happen. :(
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I pray they fixed it, but come on. Mud is gonna hold back that pressure. It's just gonna build up pressure and blow up like a big mud bomb.

Try turning on your garden hose then covering the the flow with mud until it it stops flowing, see how well that works the flow will find somewhere else to go or explode.
 Quoting: Dark Age



It`s just not mud..it is a special mixture of chemicals also that makes it swell...Not sure that would be the correct word but it was on a video yesterday on Fox about the stuff they were shooting down there...I`m sure someone else can provide a link or explain it better.
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
It seems they did try the other solutions, to rescue the operation. After all, it is a huge pile of oil inside the ground. When They need to send in mud, it means they are forced to do so by the government.

However, think twice. You drill a deep hole into the ground.
You do pass several layers of strong plates of stone. People can say, well, it can be only sand. No. Because if this was the case, the oil could flow just like that into the sea.

So there is a deep hole, they fill it with mud. When the mud is still flowing in, there is movement, so the mud can not fixate, neither dry or whatever.

So even when the mud start to dry, it will be a weak solution to close the hole. After some time, the oil will press everything out, so the oil will flow again into the sea.

Nuking or bombing the well, will make things even worse.

Conclusion. Drilling into the sea, should be forbidden at all costs. The impact on the environment is too high when something happens. When things can not be fixed in a few days, it is not worth to drill, even there is a huge amount of oil downside.

I do hope, goverment raise the bill so high to BP, extremely high for all the loss, for all the damage to the fisher man, the economic, the natural environment, so high, that no company even DARE to make such stupid acts.

And a lot of responsable people on BP should be put to trail. Because it was known on the platform, the security was broken on the well, and they still keep pumping up oil.

All the Best,


VVizz of Ur
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Re: breaking news: La times:"top kill" operation on gulf of mexico oil well successful
It would appear from that wiki link I posted this "mud" is just as nasty if not nastier than the oil/crude and gas that was coming out.



yup
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



Well, let's hope this is successful. I was watching CNN and there were a lot of animals in distress 12 miles off the Louisiana coast. And they were not swimming in the orange broken up stuff, but the thickest nastiest black oil I've seen yet.

Dolphins, fish, a shark, and a few crabs and a few other things just in the one area they were filming.

This is already bad. How are they going to account for the animals that die out there and sink to the bottom?
They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out.

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