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Volcano Shock Value: Ash Plumes Generate Internal Electrical Charge

 
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Volcano Shock Value: Ash Plumes Generate Internal Electrical Charge
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Weather balloon data show that the tiny particles within plumes of volcanic ash are constantly generating electrical charge, changing the behavior of the particles and posing a threat to aircraft. Steve Mirsky reports

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Some interesting electrical activity in the clouds of ash drifting around Europe as a result of that Icelandic volcano. Models predicted that electrical charge should be limited to the top and bottom of any ash plume, which is often the site of spectacular lightning.

But info obtained by a weather balloon found significant electrical charge within the plume. And that such charge was being generated within the plume—it wasn’t a remnant of the energy of the volcanic eruption or a result of any local weather events. Interactions among ash particles seem to be constantly renewing the charge.

The finding appears in the journal Environmental Research Letters and is the first peer-reviewed research related to the April volcano eruption.

The study authors note that charging can change the way the particles clump and how they interact with rain. The practical reason for understanding the electrical nature of ash plumes is that they can interfere with aircraft radio communication. And if any charged ash infiltrates a plane, it could be an electrostatic hazard, to the plane’s systems and to the plane’s passengers.
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There is electrical/magnetic charges associated with all effects of this nature.

'Brand new' science...or remembered science?

Our atmosphere is getting the influx of new energies...that is why scientists are beginning to see more of this phenom.
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Read "the electric universe" if you haven't already :)
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But info obtained by a weather balloon found significant electrical charge within the plume. And that such charge was being generated within the plume—it wasn’t a remnant of the energy of the volcanic eruption or a result of any local weather events. Interactions among ash particles seem to be constantly renewing the charge.

"...Interactions among ash particles seem to be constantly renewing the charge."
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There is electrical/magnetic charges associated with all effects of this nature.

'Brand new' science...or remembered science?

Our atmosphere is getting the influx of new energies...that is why scientists are beginning to see more of this phenom.


Read "the electric universe" if you haven't already :)
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Self-charging of the Eyjafjallajökull volcanic ash plume
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Abstract. Volcanic plumes generate lightning from the electrification of plume particles. Volcanic plume charging at over 1200 km from its source was observed from in situ balloon sampling of the April 2010 Eyjafjallajökull plume over Scotland. Whilst upper and lower edge charging of a horizontal plume is expected from fair weather atmospheric electricity, the plume over Scotland showed sustained positive charge well beneath the upper plume edge. At these distances from the source, the charging cannot be a remnant of the eruption itself because of charge relaxation in the finite conductivity of atmospheric air.
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These findings demonstrate that charge exists well within a volcanic plume, the origin of which is not readily attributable either to the eruption directly or subsequent fair weather charging. In general, particle charging will modify vertical deposition speeds in the fair weather atmospheric electric field [20] and modify particle...
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My husband and I were out camping last week in the desert and an epic dust storm came up. I could see static flashes in the dust cloud. It does not surprise me that ash clouds would be full of electricity. All those particles bumping into each other create friction, which in turn creates electricity.
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Heliospheric current enters the telluric current through the auroral circuit paths. If charge neutrality is to be maintained, that current must discharge somewhere. Lightning is an example of this (and of course, lightning strikes grow more frequent with proximity to the equator.) Lightning is a relatively common phenomenon, occurring due to the continual current flux through the poles (itself driven, ultimately, by Galactic currents.)

However, surges in current density could overwhelm portions of the telluric circuit, with energy being converted from electrical to mechanical at certain critical points in the circuit, leading to earthquakes and volcanism. Almost every geotectonic event exhibits electromagnetic anomalies (at least all those where anyone's bothered to check), and generally these anomalies precede the event, often by up to a day. There are conspiracy theories that blame this sort of the thing on HAARP, and while I won't say HAARP might not have been designed with some intention of affecting this system I think it more likely that they appear due to the unaccounted-for geotectonic circuit.

Since virtually all the current passing through the Earth is passed on from the solar current (where it is processed as it flows in from the local interstellar current, itself a tributary of the Galactic current) a logical corollary would be that solar behaviour would be correlated to tectonic events, ie CMEs might be followed sometime later by earthquakes or volcanoes; spectacular auroral displays should be followed by lightning; that kind of thing. I'm not aware if any such thing has been looked for, however there is the well-known sunspot-climate correlation providing at least one indication that solar activity can be a predictor of terrestrial conditions.
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There is electrical/magnetic charges associated with all effects of this nature.

'Brand new' science...or remembered science?

Our atmosphere is getting the influx of new energies...that is why scientists are beginning to see more of this phenom.
 Quoting: Sickscent
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My thought is that this discharge alone, not withstanding the CME's, will alter the balance of charge here on Gaia.

There is a fact that both this, new news to us, and the Sun's ION's are goin to discharge or unload the current that is buildin up

Think of the earth as draggin it's feet across the carpet of the SUN and we are about to touch a ground.


So stress'd points, systems or people are goin to get hammered as this energy bulges and then.............

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There is electrical/magnetic charges associated with all effects of this nature.

'Brand new' science...or remembered science?

Our atmosphere is getting the influx of new energies...that is why scientists are beginning to see more of this phenom.
spock
My thought is that this discharge alone, not withstanding the CME's, will alter the balance of charge here on Gaia.

There is a fact that both this, new news to us, and the Sun's ION's are goin to discharge or unload the current that is buildin up

Think of the earth as draggin it's feet across the carpet of the SUN and we are about to touch a ground.


So stress'd points, systems or people are goin to get hammered as this energy bulges and then.............
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Yep, and if you read through Xenus' thread, he explains how this is all happening:
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Now that I have thought about this for a bit the one of the interestin points is that the charge is positive. This in light of the "normal" negative changed particles that the SUN hurls at us is something that our solid state systems are not prepared in amps to handle.

Weirdly in my life alot of copper is now showing up i all forms. Must be a message to prepare to ground out.
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