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You cannot be a good muslim and a good American

 
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Both are lame and needy.
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Muslim practices contradicts the 13th Amendment. If muslim's are United State citizen's they are bound under our law to not put their wives or their daughters under involuntary servitude.

13th Amendment
Amendment XIII

Section 1.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Revelation 9:21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
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how does the commandment from the bible thou shalt not kill fit in with americas war machine
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Muslim practices contradicts the 13th Amendment. If muslim's are United State citizen's they are bound under our law to not put their wives or their daughters under involuntary servitude.

13th Amendment
Amendment XIII

Section 1.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
Revelation 9:21 nor did they repent of their murders or their sorceries or their sexual immorality or their thefts.
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how does the commandment from the bible thou shalt not kill fit in with americas war machine
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God doesn't have to follow that rule either...
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we are not God, different rules for us mate
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[link to quran.com]

Sahih International
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

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First of all, this is patently wrong! When the sexes were separated, they were meant to be a PAIR, in true partnership - not one over the other.

Secondly -- and any doctor can prove this statement -- at the time of conception, it is ALWAYS WITHOUT a FEMALE fetus; it only becomes male after the Y Chromosome - often referred to as the CROOKED CHROMOSOME - kicks in. That to me says WORLDS about 'who is superior' between the sexes; however, each sex is superior in their own way. When the two sexes come together in sex, it is at that point that the realization of A WHOLE SPIRIT becomes known to both, as female + male + coitus creates another human soul. I'm sure that this info has been left out purposely of any and all health/self-help books, and has been so for aeons. However, it is the truth. Men who are still living under the old age customs really need to take their blinders off and realize that men and women are NOTHING without each other. Therefore one should not seek to rule or be superior over the other.

OK .... go ahead and flame my post if you like ... I really don't give a rat's ass!

PEACE!whatever
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[link to quran.com]

Sahih International
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand.

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First of all, this is patently wrong! When the sexes were separated, they were meant to be a PAIR, in true partnership - not one over the other.

Secondly -- and any doctor can prove this statement -- at the time of conception, it is ALWAYS WITHOUT a FEMALE fetus; it only becomes male after the Y Chromosome - often referred to as the CROOKED CHROMOSOME - kicks in. That to me says WORLDS about 'who is superior' between the sexes; however, each sex is superior in their own way. When the two sexes come together in sex, it is at that point that the realization of A WHOLE SPIRIT becomes known to both, as female + male + coitus creates another human soul. I'm sure that this info has been left out purposely of any and all health/self-help books, and has been so for aeons. However, it is the truth. Men who are still living under the old age customs really need to take their blinders off and realize that men and women are NOTHING without each other. Therefore one should not seek to rule or be superior over the other.

OK .... go ahead and flame my post if you like ... I really don't give a rat's ass!

PEACE!whatever
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p.s. Meant to add that once upon a time the sexes (male and female) were united as ONE COMPLETE UNISEX WHOLE! The Bible states that "God created woman from the rib of man" ... that was when the sexes were DIVIDED, and a man and a women were then brought forth SEPARATELY. This can actually still be seen in nature as the lowly Amoeba and the Protozoa. Study those biology books, folks ... you'll be amazed!

OK ... flame on....
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Dumbest thread ever. Bar none.
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Dumbest thread ever. Bar none.
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dumbest?....This is not happening in the U S

Christian pastor sentenced to death in Iran for refusing to renounce his faith could be hanged 'at any time without warning'
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I don't care if you hate Michael Savage with a passion, You know this is one of the best rants you've ever heard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The title of this thread is completely inaccurate and completely without foundation. I am a practicing Muslim and a law-abiding citizen who loves my country and my countrymen. And I happen to treat my wife like a queen.

My religion tells me the following:

"Amongst the most perfect of believers in faith is he who is the best in character and amongst the best of them (in character), is he who is kindest towards his wife."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)


Read further it is contradicted later therefore you must enslave your wife. Be a good Muslim and enslave her, make her wear veils so she looks like an animated sack of potatoes


Can you be any sillier? I assume you have never read what the Bible says about women? All this focus on Islam, just pick up the Bible and read it. In Islam women are encouraged to cover themselves when in public, allowing for the hands and face to show. This is called hijab, and it has nothing to do with men subjugating women. Ever saw a nun, or a photo of Mary lately? Why don't I hear you denouncing nuns for covering their bodies?
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Catholics stopped taking their religion so serious a long time ago. Unless you go to the Vatican maybe ... .
But that whole comment of yours is ludicrous to begin with because the clash that this guy is talking about is not one between two religions. Its between a nation of people harboring the same ideas (human rights) and laws. You talk about the virgin Mary wearing a hijab ?!
As far as I know no one ever made a photo of the virgin Mary, because no one ever saw her that is alive today. WHat you maybe mean is statues .... or photographs of statues of the virgin Mary. Wich are artistic interpretations.
Covering your body ?!

The summum of your dumb post : everybody covers their bodies for its simple illegal to go around naked unless you happen to live in a nudist camp. THat's the .... LAW.
Besides the original painting in the Sixtine chappel shows people COMPLETELY NAKED ! And that is catholic hq worldwide.
Another painter used the dead body of a streetwhore to model for his painting of the virgin mary.

But back to the question at hand.
Any muslim woman hiding behind a veil saying that they NEED to wear it because they are muslims are nothing but hypocrits. You say that if you can't wear a veil that you are not a true muslim, well religion is in your heart , not in your way of dressing. You imply that if you can't wear a veil that you are forced not to be a muslim anymore.
That's bulshit, its hypocritical and its very coward of you.
You are simply hiding behind your veil thinking that you NEED to have these external, materialistic signs and symbols for you to be a pious person.
And that IS hypocrisy !
BEcause all it really means is that you need these material things to differentiate yourself from others, you want to shove it in everyones face that you are muslim by wearing the veil or dressing a certain way.
You want to show that you are different to then later complain that you ARE being treated different.
Talking about a double standard !!!!
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yes... you can be a good muslim AND a good american.

just listen to your heart.
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GLP = islamaphobatopia
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GLP = islamaphobatopia
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You must not be a woman or a little girl living in or under islamphobatopia rule.

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In a lot of ways muslims are a lot like retarded fat kids.
If you draw there favorite character ( scooby doo ) they get mad, if you tell them there wrong they will riot and burn flags. Fuck every single pedophile muslium your not welcome here in the USA. Go back to shitville and live in your play dough houses and beat women cause its all your good for , pussies. PS take a bath and change out that shit diaper on your head..LMFAO!!
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Brookbank a pedophile has had five children under the age of 11 tell police that he molested and flashed multiple times.

If Muslim law prevailed there would be no justice for these children since the founder of the muslim faith was of the same mindset. The issue is you can not be a good muslim and a good American. He is not a muslim but if he joined the muslim faith this would be acceptable under their founder of the faith. The muslim world needs needs a reformation as the reformation happened in other faiths.

You can not be a good muslim and a good American. There laws are different than ours in America.
If I was on the jury I would give the judgment over to the parents of the children since it happened to their children. I know what I would do personally if that happened to my family.

I am thankful that I am a Nazoraion a woman and a American.

Wake up America.

Don't be double minded.
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What a lame useless thread this is...

America is being raped and plundered and destroyed and it is NOT muslims doing it.
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Thread: Video: Son of Hamas: ‘Time to expose Muhammad’

Thread: Christians Stoned by Muslims in Michigan Retain AFLC, Civil Rights Lawsuit Coming
Proud Infidel !!!

The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape.

If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.

Bukhari:V4B52N268 "Allah's Apostle said, 'War is deceit.'"

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." ~ Founding Father, George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment.

[link to www.faithfreedom.org]
[link to thereligionofpeace.com]
[link to prophetofdoom.net]
[link to www.bibleprobe.com]
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Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.
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What a lame useless thread this is...

America is being raped and plundered and destroyed and it is NOT muslims doing it.
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The same mind set is in both....that is my point. I am an American, you are not.
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Here is an Islam website.
[link to islamnewsroom.com]
I would like to say if we in the US have changed our laws there is a reason for it. We don't allow child marriages between 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 year olds. Read the site an see how they are tying to justify their reasoning for child marriages and confuse the issue. The real issue is this. You cannot be a good muslim and a good American.


Why the funny Hat>LOL

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Muslims will use 'taqiyya' / lies, and pretend to be a good american, when their highly outnumbered, and make up small percentage of the population. Their true colors, will begin to show more and more, as their numbers and population rises.


4000 Muslims Attack Christian Homes in Egypt, Torch Church
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your religion also makes you a slave...
no man will be free until the last king is being strangled by the entrails of the last priest.

no one escapes when freedom fails, the best men rot in filthy jails, and those who cried "appease! appease!" are hanged by those they tried to please.
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Child brides in New Zealand
They do this in New Zealand and it is aganist the law.
Do you not believe they will do it in America?
Watch the video. Unbelievable.
[link to www.youtube.com]

In Turkey
I don't want this in America
child bride chooses suicide over forced marriage
[link to www.youtube.com]

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Allahu Akbar.
Muslim Congressman Andre Carson (D-IN) said American schools won’t succeed unless they model after muslim madrassas.

He goes on to say that America needs muslims.

I think you have it backwards congressman andre carson, when was the last time we received aid from the muslim countries.

You cannot be a good muslim and a good American.

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What is a good American, nzreva?
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What is a good American, nzreva?
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Protecting our children. And equal rights for men and women.
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Could a good American be someone who loves “the little house on the prairie” or something like that?
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Surely a Christian family made out of a man and a woman and three female children can become good Americans, right? So what’s Americans/Westerners have against none-white males? In the old days it was Irish males then Italian males the Americans had a problem with.
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The title of this thread is completely inaccurate and completely without foundation. I am a practicing Muslim and a law-abiding citizen who loves my country and my countrymen. And I happen to treat my wife like a queen.

My religion tells me the following:

"Amongst the most perfect of believers in faith is he who is the best in character and amongst the best of them (in character), is he who is kindest towards his wife."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
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Islam is like every other system of superstition. Some argue it well, others not so.
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there's no such thing as either
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The title of this thread is completely inaccurate and completely without foundation. I am a practicing Muslim and a law-abiding citizen who loves my country and my countrymen. And I happen to treat my wife like a queen.

My religion tells me the following:

"Amongst the most perfect of believers in faith is he who is the best in character and amongst the best of them (in character), is he who is kindest towards his wife."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226269


Islam is like every other system of superstition. Some argue it well, others not so.
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no it is not
In Turkey
I don't want this in America
child bride chooses suicide over forced marriage
[link to www.youtube.com]

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