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Sources: Turkish military aircraft fleet will protect the Free Gaza flotilla!

 
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if usa would stopping to finance israel big time (and if germans stops to send nuclear submarines as an excuse for holocaust-WHAT A JOKE) than israel would be forced to ACCEPT human rights at least.........


This shows how much you know on this matter!

Nuclear submarines? Nope, they are Diesel ones, Dolphin class.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985674


but they can easily (just little work needed) be used to fire small nuclear weapons!
thats internationally known cause these submarines are the most modern worldwide.

so as you have no clue plz stfu
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That's only because Hezbowlofshit is fighting from Lebanon, Israel can not afford to play nice with wolves surounding them.

WTF? are the ragheads waiting on? They know Israel will kick thier ass that's why.

The IDF ran away like beaten dogs the last time vs Hezbollah, LOL. They are afraid to do anything except attack women and children who cannot fight back.



Give me a break Hezbofucks, hide and attack from schools and hospitals.

What a bunch of pussies.

Yeah and who was bombing them from 20.000 feet? Israel.



Sounds smart to me banana2



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[link to www.youtube.com]

5a
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WTF? are the ragheads waiting on? They know Israel will kick thier ass that's why.
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israeli air force is equal match with turkish air force.

wait, actually to the contrary,

israeli air force is not a match for turkish air force, because israel has been planning and training for middle eastern wars against arabs.

whereas, turkey has been the SE wing of nato, and has been training to fight an air war with USSR on a large, strategic scale. Air force is the best part of turkish military, with psychopath training to the level that forces pilots to forfeit their yearly vacations for filling their flight hours quotas.

since top gun has been established in usa, there has been numerous turkish instructors, who have been sent there for training, and remained for a while there as instructors.
anything that i say except the things i give references for is what i learned and deduced. they may or may not be correct.
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Why would any good Jewish boy want to fight and die against those mean nasty Hezbollah. For what, a bit of barren desert? Indeed, it is far better to stay in school and get a good job as an orthodontist in New Jersey.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH


hahahahaa


maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

an 60 year old, grumpy grampa couldnt have said it any better.
anything that i say except the things i give references for is what i learned and deduced. they may or may not be correct.
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WTF? are the ragheads waiting on? They know Israel will kick thier ass that's why.


israeli air force is equal match with turkish air force.

wait, actually to the contrary,

israeli air force is not a match for turkish air force, because israel has been planning and training for middle eastern wars against arabs.

whereas, turkey has been the SE wing of nato, and has been training to fight an air war with USSR on a large, strategic scale. Air force is the best part of turkish military, with psychopath training to the level that forces pilots to forfeit their yearly vacations for filling their flight hours quotas.

since top gun has been established in usa, there has been numerous turkish instructors, who have been sent there for training, and remained for a while there as instructors.
 Quoting: Bazork!

Correct, my friend. Turkey would mop the floor with the Izzies. Don't piss off the Turks -- they have historically proven to be most ruthless in combat.
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Correct, my friend. Turkey would mop the floor with the Izzies. Don't piss off the Turks -- they have historically proven to be most ruthless in combat.
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no, sir, actually the rest of turkish military is not in the same standard with air force. especially, army.

armor is old, (newest item is leopard i, even the m60s were modernized by israel) combatants are conscripts, and the force is not mechanized. (little mechanized troops).

navy, is better, and may or may not be able to cope up with israeli navy. there are 5-6 submarines of german cooperation result, and 8-12 frigates or so, some of which were know class frigates leased and then donated by usa, and rest are german cooperation meko series. (they are good).
anything that i say except the things i give references for is what i learned and deduced. they may or may not be correct.
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if usa would stopping to finance israel big time (and if germans stops to send nuclear submarines as an excuse for holocaust-WHAT A JOKE) than israel would be forced to ACCEPT human rights at least.........


This shows how much you know on this matter!

Nuclear submarines? Nope, they are Diesel ones, Dolphin class.


but they can easily (just little work needed) be used to fire small nuclear weapons!
thats internationally known cause these submarines are the most modern worldwide.

so as you have no clue plz stfu
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985501

5a

Really! Ya see that is just what happens when a small country of 7 mil is threatened by others numbering 30 mil with territory 20 times their size who choose to ring them with 1000s of rockets/threaten them constantly/suicide bomb them when the opportunity presents itself ad infinitum ad nauseum. Your rhetoric is so full of shit it matches your breath ewwwwwww.
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whoa !

wait


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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i didnt know navy was heavily modernizing. hmmmmmm.
anything that i say except the things i give references for is what i learned and deduced. they may or may not be correct.
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WTF? are the ragheads waiting on? They know Israel will kick thier ass that's why.


israeli air force is equal match with turkish air force.

wait, actually to the contrary,

israeli air force is not a match for turkish air force, because israel has been planning and training for middle eastern wars against arabs.

whereas, turkey has been the SE wing of nato, and has been training to fight an air war with USSR on a large, strategic scale. Air force is the best part of turkish military, with psychopath training to the level that forces pilots to forfeit their yearly vacations for filling their flight hours quotas.

since top gun has been established in usa, there has been numerous turkish instructors, who have been sent there for training, and remained for a while there as instructors.
 Quoting: Bazork!




Look I found a youtube video too..The IDF fight for thier survival, they will make Turkey sandwiches.
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if usa would stopping to finance israel big time (and if germans stops to send nuclear submarines as an excuse for holocaust-WHAT A JOKE) than israel would be forced to ACCEPT human rights at least.........


I don't see the likes of you here protesting against the violation of human rights in most if not all Muslim countries, China, Africa, you name it, and they all are much worse than the worse violations Israel has made. Those countries treat people like shit!

Why don't you protest slavery in Dubai? In Saudi Arabia?

You don't have to answer, I know why! Get a life! A real one!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985674


so just because human rights get violated in other countries too it is a bad thing to critize israel for also committing these crimes?

what kind of logic ist that??

and it is true that israel behaves like a berserker since at least 40 years!!
their occuping land from their neighbours since than.
they almost take 80% of the water of the sorrounding countries.
they put small children into adult prisons.
they let people in prison without an attorny or an offical charge for years or even decades.
they have nukes and no goddamn right for them as they NEVER have inspectors into the country to visit them.
they used illegal munition in gaza-war last year, for example uranium munition or phosphorbombs in crowded and civilian places.
they bombed UN building, hospitals and schools.

AND SO ON

so dont tell me one shouldnt critize israel because other countries are bad too!! thats f***** stupid!

and BTW:
if not the USA have used their VETO right since 40 years and year by year israel would long ago have been facing sanctions and the criminal actions would have been stopped!

to the submarine topi:
yea, im no original english speaker and i meant that the submarines can FIRE nukes!
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Look I found a youtube video too..The IDF fight for thier survival, they will make Turkey sandwiches.
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'fighting for survival' against unmotivated, disorganized arab pilots is not the same with 'preparing and training for world war iii against USSR, which will probably be the end of the world, for the last 50 years'. the latter was what turkey has been doing, especially with its air force.
anything that i say except the things i give references for is what i learned and deduced. they may or may not be correct.
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05/29/2010 08:53 PM
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And you think Israel hasnt been preparing to deal with that?
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Nothing but a stupid publicity/propaganda stunt - I hope Israel sinks the whole fleet!
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I do too, then we can nuke the murderous bastards and rid the area of their evil ways.
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Re: Sources: Turkish military aircraft fleet will protect the Free Gaza flotilla!
Gaza flotilla organisers suspect Israeli sabotage... :mashaat:

Organisers say the break-downs happened "under suspicious circumstances".

The plan is to bring some 700 protesters and 10,000 tonnes of supplies into the blockaded territory. Israel has said it would not allow the ships to dock and has prepared warships to intercept the fleet. It says the flotilla would be breaking international law.

It was due to set sail from Cyprus at 09.00 universal time, but organisers were negotiating with Cypriot authorities.

They have accused Cyprus of conceding to Israeli pressure and reneging on an agreement to let them sail from there.


They seem to be spending the night outside the 20 mile zone. However a sudden dash cannot be ruled out. I noticed earlier that one of the cargo ships, not sure of it's name but it has a blue hull, seems to have a pronounced list to the port side. Not sure what happened there.
 Quoting: 9teen.47™

Daniel 11
30 For ships from Cyprus shall come against him (Israel); therefore he (President Obama) shall be grieved, and return in rage against the holy covenant (Israel), and do damage.
“So he shall return and show regard for those who forsake the holy covenant (Palestinians).

31 And (UN Military) forces shall be mustered by him (Obama), and they shall defile the sanctuary fortress (The Temple Mount); then they shall take away the daily sacrifices (That Israel will start in the next two weeks), and place there the abomination of desolation.
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15 June 2010- WW3 Will Begin- 1290 Days Later the Two Witnesses Will Rise From The Dead on 25 December 2013
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Look I found a youtube video too..The IDF fight for thier survival, they will make Turkey sandwiches.
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Air power is meaningless my friend -- you are fighting yesterday's war. Only troops on the ground can win wars. Look at the problems for the USA in Afghanistan. I know, the Taliban's air force is quite formidable indeed.

The fact is that the IDF is afraid of taking casualties. They were badly beaten in 2006 by Hezbollah on the ground. And today, Hezbollah has a few additional surprises waiting -- countless MANPADS, all coordinated with secure, encrypted fibre optic communications. The IDF will be slaughtered if they attach Hezbollah. They will stick to what they do best -- killing women and children, and attacking schools and hospitals.
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Look I found a youtube video too..The IDF fight for thier survival, they will make Turkey sandwiches.

Air power is meaningless my friend -- you are fighting yesterday's war. Only troops on the ground can win wars. Look at the problems for the USA in Afghanistan. I know, the Taliban's air force is quite formidable indeed.

The fact is that the IDF is afraid of taking casualties. They were badly beaten in 2006 by Hezbollah on the ground. And today, Hezbollah has a few additional surprises waiting -- countless MANPADS, all coordinated with secure, encrypted fibre optic communications. The IDF will be slaughtered if they attach Hezbollah. They will stick to what they do best -- killing women and children, and attacking schools and hospitals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985832


That where the sons of bitches hide, Israel has American drone tech, hell, all of our tech, dont jump for joy yet.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Turkish army is the one of the oldest.

Even nazis didn't touch them, nobody tells the real reason.

Two of the biggest walls ever constructed was to prevent attacks from them.

Too bad you guys lack the history.
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israel will EAT some lead this time



Congratulations you are one of the ones who have received the great delusion.




I was just thinking the same about you...

You've lapped up the NWO playbook(bible)like a good sheep....

So arrogant...

Yet so foolish...


What an illusion! The NWO wants to get rid of Israel and you people are swalowing hook, line and sinker. The NWO is not compatible with strong national identities. Israel has one, and that's a problem...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985674


TELL THEM!
They are trying to do away with them in a hurry. They lie and distort like there is no tomorrow.
Most people reading conspiracy sites wouldn't know day from night. Wouldn't know reality if it hit them on the head.


What an illusion! The NWO wants to get rid of Israel and you people are swalowing hook, line and sinker. The NWO is not compatible with strong national identities. Israel has one, and that's a problem...


Look at waht they did to Serbia, another case of strong national identity! They bombed the c**p out of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985674


Ditto!

Look at waht they did to Serbia, another case of strong national identity! They bombed the c**p out of them!


it wouldnt happen, if that case of strong national identity wasnt bent on holding numerous smaller national identities of ex yugoslavia under their dominance.
 Quoting: Bazork!


You live in a fabricated state. You used to have a dead man and worshiped him like a god. He contracted every sexual disease there is on the book and eventually died from those. He had all kinds of sick and distorted personal sexual traits and was know for it. You killed millions of Ionian, Pontian, Dorian Greeks, you killed Armenians, Kurds, Jews, for Gods sake. Your islamization although a backward move for western standarts, in fact for you is acting as an much needed societal upgrade. Your prisons are mot backward than even the most backward prison on Africa. You are the last one on this planet that should have to voice a damn opinion for everyone else. NWO things you are the future, Christian Orthodox thinks you are the scourge of the planet described in the Book of Revelations, and everyone else doesn't have a clue.
You are now starting to have a go at the jews. At least man up and go all the freaking way this time.
Let's all dance! Fat chance I guess!
All talks and no actions.
Why isn't this a surprise anymore?
Don't bust anyones balls if you are not up to do anything and just want to draw attention. Just wear your new burkah and STFU already.
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Israel has American drone tech, hell, all of our tech, dont jump for joy yet.
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You are correct, the US is greatly compromised by Israeli spying. And there are many of dual loyalties in positions of power in the US (Rahm Emmanuel, David Axelrod, the Supreme Court, AIPAC, etc). This will make no difference, my friend.

Drones are no match for MANPADS - they are slow and fly low. Drones will be swatted like flies against a determined and well equipped opponent such as Hezbollah.
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Look I found a youtube video too..The IDF fight for thier survival, they will make Turkey sandwiches.

Air power is meaningless my friend -- you are fighting yesterday's war. Only troops on the ground can win wars. Look at the problems for the USA in Afghanistan. I know, the Taliban's air force is quite formidable indeed.

The fact is that the IDF is afraid of taking casualties. They were badly beaten in 2006 by Hezbollah on the ground. And today, Hezbollah has a few additional surprises waiting -- countless MANPADS, all coordinated with secure, encrypted fibre optic communications. The IDF will be slaughtered if they attach Hezbollah. They will stick to what they do best -- killing women and children, and attacking schools and hospitals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985832

5a

I don't think I would bet my life on that one my little moron monkey. But of course you will stick to doing what you do best lieing/prevaricating and downright bullshitting as per usual.
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I don't think I would bet my life on that one my little moron monkey. But of course you will stick to doing what you do best lieing/prevaricating and downright bullshitting as per usual.
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Now now, my boy. Sometimes the truth hurts, I know. But look on the bright side -- it is only a year from now that you will have your Bar Mitzvah, and then you will be a man.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Turkish army is the one of the oldest.

Even nazis didn't touch them, nobody tells the real reason.

Two of the biggest walls ever constructed was to prevent attacks from them.

Too bad you guys lack the history.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985946


The same way they didn't touch the Italian and the Japanese army. Cause they were allied to them.
DUH!
If anyone "touched" their army there was a great chance Inonian Greeks would be rushing back to Ionia (Minor Asia) and would have kept it for good that time.

There is a very damn good reason why the PTB would not want the Ionians back at their lands:

A PERSONAL VOYAGE -- JOURNEYS IN SPACE AND TIME

by Carl Sagan

It's a lovely fantasy to explore those other worlds that never were. If you had H.G. Wells' time machine, maybe you could understand how history really works if an apparently pivotal person had never lived: Paul the Apostle, or Peter the Great, or Pythagoras. How different would the world really be? What if the scientific tradition of the ancient Ionian Greeks had prospered and flourished? It would have required many social factors of the time to have been different, including the common feeling that slavery was right and natural. But what if that light that had dawned on the eastern Mediterranean some 2,500 years ago had not flickered out? What if the scientific method and experiment had been vigorously pursued 2,000 years before the industrial revolution, our industrial revolution? What if the power of this new mode of thought, the scientific method, had been generally appreciated? I think we might have saved ten or twenty centuries. Perhaps the contribution that Leonardo made would have been made a thousand years earlier and the contribution of Einstein 500 years ago. Not that it would have been those people who would have made those contributions, because they live only in our timeline.

If the Ionians had won, we might be now, I think, be going to the stars. We might at this moment have the first survey ships returning with astonishing results from Alpha Centauri and Barnard Star, Sirius and (Ta Siti?) There would now be great fleets of interstellar transports being constructed in earth orbit, small unmanned survey ships, liners for immigrants, perhaps, great trading ships to ply the spaces between the stars. On all of these ships there would be symbols and inscriptions on the side. The inscriptions, if we look closely, would be written in Greek. The symbol, perhaps, would be the dodecahedron, and the inscription on the sides to the ships to the stars something like Starship Theodorus of the planet earth.
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But please don't stop on behalf of me. We need more senseless and irrelevant dribble.
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So where are the ships, and whats going on now?
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I don't think I would bet my life on that one my little moron monkey. But of course you will stick to doing what you do best lieing/prevaricating and downright bullshitting as per usual.

Now now, my boy. Sometimes the truth hurts, I know. But look on the bright side -- it is only a year from now that you will have your Bar Mitzvah, and then you will be a man.
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5a

Ah yes manhood once again something you will never achieve my little moron monkey. Or is it pencil dick for short.
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So where are the ships, and whats going on now?
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Indeed! Where are they ?:o IN THE ISLAND?? ARE THEY LOST?
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So where are the ships, and whats going on now?
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[link to witnessgaza.com]
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Correct, my friend. Turkey would mop the floor with the Izzies. Don't piss off the Turks -- they have historically proven to be most ruthless in combat.


no, sir, actually the rest of turkish military is not in the same standard with air force. especially, army.

armor is old, (newest item is leopard i, even the m60s were modernized by israel) combatants are conscripts, and the force is not mechanized. (little mechanized troops).

navy, is better, and may or may not be able to cope up with israeli navy. there are 5-6 submarines of german cooperation result, and 8-12 frigates or so, some of which were know class frigates leased and then donated by usa, and rest are german cooperation meko series. (they are good).
 Quoting: Bazork!




What we see at the front is a Turkish pilot.
What we see at his rear is a Greek pilot that is glued to his six. As seen the Turk cannot evade him even if both jets stall and then accelerate with high Gs multiple times.

Israeli and Greek air forces have started to train together. The word has it that IDF is very pleased with the overall outcome of the joint exercises. Greeks play the defendants and Israelis play the attackers. All the distances from Israel sortie points and exercise locations are in realistic distances as it would be if they were flying and engaging through Iran.
Just change the angle at which the jets make their initial turn in order to reach targets in Greece instead of reaching targets in Iran. This means that IDF will be able to fly and operate within Iran even if they were blindfolded deaf and mute.
Obama can do nothing about it.
Turkey can't do nothing bout it.
Iran can do nothing about it.
Germans can't do nothing about it.

SUCKS TO BE YOU EH???

5a
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So where are the ships, and whats going on now?



[link to witnessgaza.com]
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Hasent been updated in like 7 hours, hmm
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SUCKS TO BE YOU EH???
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In three weeks, the Greeks will be starving, rioting, and burning their own cities down, LOL. The jews will not give you what you need most -- money.
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Turkish army is the one of the oldest.

Even nazis didn't touch them, nobody tells the real reason.

Two of the biggest walls ever constructed was to prevent attacks from them.

Too bad you guys lack the history.


The same way they didn't touch the Italian and the Japanese army. Cause they were allied to them.
DUH!
If anyone "touched" their army there was a great chance Inonian Greeks would be rushing back to Ionia (Minor Asia) and would have kept it for good that time.

There is a very damn good reason why the PTB would not want the Ionians back at their lands:

A PERSONAL VOYAGE -- JOURNEYS IN SPACE AND TIME

by Carl Sagan

It's a lovely fantasy to explore those other worlds that never were. If you had H.G. Wells' time machine, maybe you could understand how history really works if an apparently pivotal person had never lived: Paul the Apostle, or Peter the Great, or Pythagoras. How different would the world really be? What if the scientific tradition of the ancient Ionian Greeks had prospered and flourished? It would have required many social factors of the time to have been different, including the common feeling that slavery was right and natural. But what if that light that had dawned on the eastern Mediterranean some 2,500 years ago had not flickered out? What if the scientific method and experiment had been vigorously pursued 2,000 years before the industrial revolution, our industrial revolution? What if the power of this new mode of thought, the scientific method, had been generally appreciated? I think we might have saved ten or twenty centuries. Perhaps the contribution that Leonardo made would have been made a thousand years earlier and the contribution of Einstein 500 years ago. Not that it would have been those people who would have made those contributions, because they live only in our timeline.

If the Ionians had won, we might be now, I think, be going to the stars. We might at this moment have the first survey ships returning with astonishing results from Alpha Centauri and Barnard Star, Sirius and (Ta Siti?) There would now be great fleets of interstellar transports being constructed in earth orbit, small unmanned survey ships, liners for immigrants, perhaps, great trading ships to ply the spaces between the stars. On all of these ships there would be symbols and inscriptions on the side. The inscriptions, if we look closely, would be written in Greek. The symbol, perhaps, would be the dodecahedron, and the inscription on the sides to the ships to the stars something like Starship Theodorus of the planet earth.

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But please don't stop on behalf of me. We need more senseless and irrelevant dribble.
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Don't worry, I won't try to change the way you think. I know you 2 nations hate each other thanks to the guiding hand of puppetmasters.

You will be really suprised when you learn "real" history. Truth is never mainstream and never will be.

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