The Deep Water Horizon BP blowout and things we must come to terms with.... | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 985670 05/29/2010 11:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you, 9959 from Canada-that is my understanding of what is happening....that the leak is actually outside the drillstring. Hard to be heard over the doom here, lol OK Here is another little factoid that should get some people puckering: Sec. Salazar has shut down deepwater drilling, right? And a one year moratorium on exploratory wells and so forth. It sure sounds great, doesn't it? Here's the kicker: They are shutting down ALL wells in the GOM as soon as is safe for safety review. ALL THE WELLS. The Gulf provides about 30% percent of the oil that the US uses. Think about it. What's going to happen when that flow is halted? How many people are going to be laid off, what happens to the price of crude-which rockets up and down based on *fears*? It will be an economic disaster and place the US in a very precarious position. Take it and run with it, guys.....every scenario I can think of is really really BAD. |
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| Nine's User ID: 960588 05/29/2010 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you SHR. LIST OF REPRESENTATIVES BY STATE: [link to conservativeusa.org] [link to writerep.house.gov (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 866921 05/29/2010 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only option is to use the HAARP technology, which will set off the San Madrid fault but will seal the volcano. EITHER YOU LOSE BIG NOW OR LOSE EVERYTHING LATER. The cajuns will rise up, this will be your que to get the ready to get the fuk out of dodge. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 848576 05/29/2010 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Gulf provides about 30% percent of the oil that the US uses. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985670Think about it. What's going to happen when that flow is halted? How many people are going to be laid off, what happens to the price of crude-which rockets up and down based on *fears*? It will be an financial gusher for Goldman Sachs and place the company in a very advantageous position. |
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| susano User ID: 916958 05/29/2010 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for the detailed overview. Sawing off that riser will be some gutsy move. But they will have to try something. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 519048What amazes me, is that they can feed up live, streaming video from advanced ROV's but cannot stem this flow in one way or another. Yes, it is difficult, I can guess that, but really, there must be some really bright people in that industry that could come to gripes with this challenge. Till then, if we get to then, it is indeed going to be interesting, for they are trying. Have to give them some sort of credit for that. I think it was an ex Shell engineer that said they should have had tanker after tanker sucking up the crude from the surface RIGHT from the start. No, it would not solve the issues, but would have stopped A LOT of oil from reaching shores. This is just one example of what is certainly an easier situation to look at with hind-sight. With this said, I would hope and expect that BP and the government are listening to ALL ideas, especially from other oil and gas exploration firms. He was the former CEO of Shell |
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| redpill2010 User ID: 973796 05/29/2010 01:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEY CAN'T FIT A TAPERED HOSE INTO THE LEAKING PIPE AND GET ABOUT 95% OF THE OIL TO GO THOUGH IT, UP TO THE SURFACE AND TO AN OIL TANKER? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 740955Because it's leaking from multiple jagged holes all over the place. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 900755 05/29/2010 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982171 I listened to all seven videos early this morning, VERY frightening! And believable. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 975904 05/29/2010 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oil hurricane, flying up the coast, for this season to start Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979790jun.1, which is predicted to be a intense, we have to get off oil, my buddy just converted his diesel Truck, to burn grease. yea good idea, but sadly, he will also need new tyres that don't slip on oily roads when it starts raining oil |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 976323 05/29/2010 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oil hurricane, flying up the coast, for this season to start Quoting: Anonymous Coward 979790jun.1, which is predicted to be a intense, we have to get off oil, my buddy just converted his diesel Truck, to burn grease. First East-Pacific tropical system forms [link to www.weather.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 976323 05/29/2010 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oil hurricane, flying up the coast, for this season to start Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976323jun.1, which is predicted to be a intense, we have to get off oil, my buddy just converted his diesel Truck, to burn grease. First East-Pacific tropical system forms [link to www.weather.com] I did make a thread named First East-Pacific tropical system forms but it got lost from 1 st page quickly...bumped 2x even. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 740955 05/29/2010 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THEY CAN'T FIT A TAPERED HOSE INTO THE LEAKING PIPE AND GET ABOUT 95% OF THE OIL TO GO THOUGH IT, UP TO THE SURFACE AND TO AN OIL TANKER? Quoting: redpill2010Because it's leaking from multiple jagged holes all over the place. Isn't the largest percentage coming out of the open pipe? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 973854 05/29/2010 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is a Navel operation, bring in the navy and Quoting: Douglass Firthe world's leading experts and then get the fuck out of the way. this is the only solution! Pardon me ... but what in the HECK does the Navy know about deep water oil drilling ... or even drilling to begin with? The US Military has done a "bang up" job of handling the radioactive wastes and other chemical wastes over the last 60 years that they have been in charge of ... NOT ... and that is a "simple" engineering problem compared to this problem. The Navy's expertise is at creating and operating machines for blowing stuff up and killing it ... and sometimes they don't even do the most simple parts of that job right as shown by ships and subs running aground or running into other ships or subs on what seems like a regular basis. (sheesh in this day and age how in the heck do you into a reef that has been on the charts for 100 years now?) I respect the US Navy and what it does ... but this is not an area that they have any engineering or training for. |
| FatalWishes User ID: 626707 05/29/2010 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHR, You failed to mention the oil dispersant. I'll take your doom and raise by a million tons of a chemical that they won't tell us what is in it. And I guess they told the EPA to f'off because they are still using this shit and adding to this environmental disaster. And who knows how much more of this shit they are going to spray, pump, or dump into the oil before they get their relief wells done. Being a Texas resident, and 1 of several here, are we going to be getting acid rain in the future? They should take the warning labels off of everything and let stupidity sort itself out. |
| TheDon User ID: 985777 05/29/2010 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Really SHR? REALLY? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985340You seriously think the well pipe itself could not be collapsed with a few drill holes and some charges. I aint talking about no stupid nukes. Just some holes and some charges. You should be smart enough to know the well pipe itself can be collapsed. BP just chooses not to do it because of the cost involved with drilling a new well.... And we all suffer for their greed. Right now this is just a US problem. Soon it shall be Mexicos problem... then the Caribbean, then into the atlantic. Money money money, its so funny, in a world gone wrong! Money! Money is where its at. This oil spill, irrespective of what you say SHR, "could" be stopped. We have the inteligence, the ways and the means, but it would be far to costly for BP. Because they know very well that this little "incident" can be cost covered by the monster itself that caused it. And then, all they have to do is declare sovereign immunity like Exon, to get out of that whole little fiasco of having to pay the literal billions in compensation to all those who have lost their livlyhoods, homes and communities. But if they close the well now, after paying all that money to open it in the first place, well now, that just wouldnt be very cost effective. There ARE ways of going about this, that we can be certain. Im a firm believer that there is a solution to every problem but BP dont want to hear it because the only way to stop this will inevitably shut down their financial answer to this problem. Drill a well beside this current one. Fill it with high grade non-nuclear explosives and press the boom box. Its really that simple, and anyone who says otherwise is lying! The force of the explosion would cause massive amounts of rock to crush the existing pipeline and hey presto, problem solved for earth, but big problem caused for BP. But not to worry. Obama and his busload of cleaner uppers are out in full force. Another ((((((((((((Idiot)))))))))))))) Wow, now who looks like an idiot. Slandering others on a board with a one word response. Heckler. Come with the goods now or stfu Anonymous "coward". Ok nukes and bombs are just plain batshit crazy, this seems to be a typical response - ((got a problem ? nuke it!)) Forget that whole rational, because its more a question of an elephant balancing on a tea cup, made of bone china Bombs will only fracture the rock strata weakening the sea floor and making things worse, at the same time this deposit could be seated next to a volcano, this problem needs to be approached with surgical precision, not the blunted blast of a bomb, get real, this requires a serious fail safe strategy. I'm a peaceful man. Bombs and guns are not my forte, nor will they ever be. But im looking at this from a technical standpoint, where the lesser evil will beat the bigger evil you feel me? Russia has used explosives to succesfully close 5 runaway "leaks" (Aka, Massive Torrents Of Oil) in the past, it can be done and it doesnt need to be nuclear nor need it be cataclysmic. Its a simple case of drilling very close to the existing pipeline, close enough that a modest charge would be enough to force broken rock and seafloor in on top of the existing pipeline crushing it and bringing an end to what could very well be armageddom. I hate to be ringing the bells of doom but we are up shit creek and they dont even make paddles no more! This needs to be dealt with using whatever means neccesary, and if that means making a loud noise then so be it. But im in no way advocating anything nuclear. Certainly not, this could be dealt with using lower grade explosives. We are now longer in the final hour, we are in the final minute. God bless you all. Hold peace in your hearts and the great shelter of life shall be your protection. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 969767 05/29/2010 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Golf Ball solution is a scam. The Golf Balls are markers. Their goal with this method is to be able to trace the speed and the direction of the spread of the Oil flow. It also allows them to trace where This has nothing to do with blocking the pipe or anything like that. Markers, that's what they are. Nothing more. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 976323 05/29/2010 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Golf Ball solution is a scam. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 969767The Golf Balls are markers. Their goal with this method is to be able to trace the speed and the direction of the spread of the Oil flow. It also allows them to trace where This has nothing to do with blocking the pipe or anything like that. Markers, that's what they are. Nothing more. Good point |