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Neesie (OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 09:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, They ARE serious, They really believe they have found the ark, they have scientists and members of parliament from the turkish government making statements. .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
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Sirrurg User ID: 985538 Germany 05/29/2010 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That must be the tenth ark they have found... I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain. ------------------------------- Sapere aude! |
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Neesie (OP) User ID: 254206 United States 05/29/2010 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am reserving judgement and waiting it out. If it is Real we will know soon enough. But this time even the scientists would be fooled? .A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell. C. S. Lewis |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States 05/29/2010 10:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all do realize what it would mean if they could prove beyond a doubt that this was Noah's Ark? First of all it would mean that the events of Genesis 6 really happened. Second it would also mean that flood was indeed a planet wide flood. Third it would mean that all the scoffers and people saying that the Bible writers had merely revamped an old local Sumerian flood myth had it backwards, that all the Sumerian mythos is a vast and wide distortion and corruption of what really happened. The list of ramnifications of such a discover is vast and profound. It would mean that the Darwian theory of evolution and its futher evolved theories are a POS. It would also mean that Geology would have to completely rethink every thing it thinks it knows about the Earths' history. The list goes on and on. |
milehighmike User ID: 339344 United States 05/29/2010 10:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all do realize what it would mean if they could prove beyond a doubt that this was Noah's Ark? First of all it would mean that the events of Genesis 6 really happened. Second it would also mean that flood was indeed a planet wide flood. Third it would mean that all the scoffers and people saying that the Bible writers had merely revamped an old local Sumerian flood myth had it backwards, that all the Sumerian mythos is a vast and wide distortion and corruption of what really happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985286The list of ramnifications of such a discover is vast and profound. It would mean that the Darwian theory of evolution and its futher evolved theories are a POS. It would also mean that Geology would have to completely rethink every thing it thinks it knows about the Earths' history. The list goes on and on. Which is why, even if they had actually found it, they would NEVER let us know the "truth". Kind of like the reason to never let us know that we're NOT alone here on the big blue marble...It would utterly destroy the control mechanisms that they've spent thousands of years, and generation after generation of refining and putting in to place... "Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others. Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?'" — Brian Tracy: Personal and business training author, speaker, and consultant "We are all, right now, living the life we choose." -- Peter McWilliams, Author "The bad news is time flies. The good news is you're the pilot." -- Michael Altshuler |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 978588 United States 05/29/2010 10:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am reserving judgement and waiting it out. If it is Real we will know soon enough. But this time even the scientists would be fooled? Quoting: NeesieThe same scientists who brought you the theories of evolution, no human soul, global warming, and the big bang........ fooled you say? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States 05/29/2010 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all do realize what it would mean if they could prove beyond a doubt that this was Noah's Ark? First of all it would mean that the events of Genesis 6 really happened. Second it would also mean that flood was indeed a planet wide flood. Third it would mean that all the scoffers and people saying that the Bible writers had merely revamped an old local Sumerian flood myth had it backwards, that all the Sumerian mythos is a vast and wide distortion and corruption of what really happened. Quoting: milehighmikeThe list of ramnifications of such a discover is vast and profound. It would mean that the Darwian theory of evolution and its futher evolved theories are a POS. It would also mean that Geology would have to completely rethink every thing it thinks it knows about the Earths' history. The list goes on and on. Which is why, even if they had actually found it, they would NEVER let us know the "truth". Kind of like the reason to never let us know that we're NOT alone here on the big blue marble...It would utterly destroy the control mechanisms that they've spent thousands of years, and generation after generation of refining and putting in to place... Indeed it would be similar to the discovery of the other Ark. Although in order to people to really have some responsibility in modern times in scoffing about the Flood of Noah, it would seem that the remains of that ark would have to be uncovered. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 898510 Australia 05/29/2010 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all do realize what it would mean if they could prove beyond a doubt that this was Noah's Ark? First of all it would mean that the events of Genesis 6 really happened. Second it would also mean that flood was indeed a planet wide flood. Third it would mean that all the scoffers and people saying that the Bible writers had merely revamped an old local Sumerian flood myth had it backwards, that all the Sumerian mythos is a vast and wide distortion and corruption of what really happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985286The list of ramnifications of such a discover is vast and profound. It would mean that the Darwian theory of evolution and its futher evolved theories are a POS. It would also mean that Geology would have to completely rethink every thing it thinks it knows about the Earths' history. The list goes on and on. Of course "yes" to everything, however it would not rule out the theory of evolution |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 977010 Canada 05/29/2010 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Which is why, even if they had actually found it, they would NEVER let us know the "truth". Kind of like the reason to never let us know that we're NOT alone here on the big blue marble...It would utterly destroy the control mechanisms that they've spent thousands of years, and generation after generation of refining and putting in to place... Quoting: milehighmikeOr maybe they'll plant the seed/ introduce the notion that it's time to ready ourselves to board the next 'ark'. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States 05/29/2010 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | One though I have had for many years pertaining to such claimes of discovery of 'the ark' is how little we really know at about the history of the civilication of that area in antiquity. I was wondering if perhaps what some of these 'discoveries' might not be are human settlements, ruins of massive wooden asphalt type defensive walls and fortresses. It has only been recently that things about the Hittite civilization have been coming to the front lines, the Hittite Empire, which of course would definitely post-date the times of that Flood. All the same we have come to knwo a relatively great amount about Egypt to the determint of our knowledge about nearly all the rest of the ancient world. I have though for a long time that holding the Flood to have been a real event, it owuld have completely teraformed a great part of the landscape, and raised up mountain changes, and plunged other area down to the sea floors. Sometime, just as a 'though experiment' go out and read Neal Adam's "Growing Earth Hypothesis" and Walt Brown's "Hydroplate Theory" and combine them, and you might discover in such a though experiment that we likely would have had a completely different planet before that flood took place. The Doctrine of Uniformitivity seesm to be the only thing keeping many peole from waking up to reality that is fully around us. Even though Velikovsky woke some people up in 1950 with his World's in Collision book, and even though the discoveris of the world's space agencies are fully astonishing in telling us how chaotic it really is 'out there', and the fact taht no one can realyl explain the mechanism for the trigger for all the alleged Ice Ages, (except a Pole Shift - which would go completely against that Doctrine of Uniformity). |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: e-watchman As in the Days of Noah were so the coming of the Son of Man will be. Noahs Day had the fallen angels using HIGH TECHNOLOGY, they had planes and levitation. Airline runways are under the sea. Toy replicas of ships thousands of years old have been discovered, its those days again, Technology on earth is NOT NEW. |
.. User ID: 912403 United States 05/29/2010 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True or not, maybe we should take a lesson from history and start building a few million more. Not just enough to hold the global elite... enough to hold the global population, although there would have to be a discimination process, because the concept is unworkable. ...which brings us right back to the sorting methods of the global elite. Personally, I'd stay on the ground. The idea of herding hordes of humans into transport containers kinda gives me the creeps. ya know. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 985286 United States 05/29/2010 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all do realize what it would mean if they could prove beyond a doubt that this was Noah's Ark? First of all it would mean that the events of Genesis 6 really happened. Second it would also mean that flood was indeed a planet wide flood. Third it would mean that all the scoffers and people saying that the Bible writers had merely revamped an old local Sumerian flood myth had it backwards, that all the Sumerian mythos is a vast and wide distortion and corruption of what really happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 898510The list of ramnifications of such a discover is vast and profound. It would mean that the Darwian theory of evolution and its futher evolved theories are a POS. It would also mean that Geology would have to completely rethink every thing it thinks it knows about the Earths' history. The list goes on and on. Of course "yes" to everything, however it would not rule out the theory of evolution Back in the late 1960's coputer scientists started exploring the writing of computer code that rewrites itself, its called Genetic Programmig and 'Evolutionaery Programing" It has been discovered recently in the 21st Century that there are types of DNA codes that in practice do the same thing, rewrite pieces of their own code. Any Creator of the Universe would have no problem creating DNA, RNA, mtDNA that can and was 'designed' to rewrite its own code. This concept is a form of Theistic Evolution. A conceptualizatino bhtat both the Darwinian and "Creatisonists" both love to completley overlook in their little pointless war against each other. As it was in the Days of Noah... all flesh (proteins?) was corruption its way. What determines protein productino in cells? Their DNA code. Mutations, yes, but also forms os ancient genetic engineering similar to our current efforts at Geneticallly Modified organism. Consider these things deeply. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 935215 United States 05/29/2010 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You all do realize what it would mean if they could prove beyond a doubt that this was Noah's Ark? First of all it would mean that the events of Genesis 6 really happened. Second it would also mean that flood was indeed a planet wide flood. Third it would mean that all the scoffers and people saying that the Bible writers had merely revamped an old local Sumerian flood myth had it backwards, that all the Sumerian mythos is a vast and wide distortion and corruption of what really happened. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 985286The list of ramnifications of such a discover is vast and profound. It would mean that the Darwian theory of evolution and its futher evolved theories are a POS. It would also mean that Geology would have to completely rethink every thing it thinks it knows about the Earths' history. The list goes on and on. Sorry, you are supporting your own agenda. Sumerian writings predated the bible and if taken without prejudice go to support the bible story, even though there are distortions in the bible. The Gods then had to flee the flood as well or they to would have died, your God today. They do not contradict one another, the problem is the bible does not have all the info of the Sumerians. Further, science does not scoff, it looks for evidence and this pisses off those of religious beliefs, for belief needs no evidence. And if they would quit throwing a tantrum, you would find that science does in fact support the idea of a great flood which happens in a cyclical manner. I am of the science, and I am cheering on this find, evidence wherever it comes from is a wonderful thing. For those of narrow mind, they will sink into a pool of belief and smile smugly, and those of science will smile and look for more in our past, we are together more than you think. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 938842 United States 05/29/2010 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO TRUE, the truth is both, creationism, and evolution combined, The Elohim made us from neanderthals with their DNA Any Creator of the Universe would have no problem creating DNA, RNA, mtDNA that can and was 'designed' to rewrite its own code. This concept is a form of Theistic Evolution. A conceptualizatino bhtat both the Darwinian and "Creatisonists" both love to completley overlook in their little pointless war against each other. |