BREAKING! Simmons Calls For Obama to Kick Out BP; Military To Nuke Oil Leak

You gotta love the loudmouth, self-proclaimed experts on here advocating for the "nuclear option." Talking physics and shit like they know what the hell they're talking about. First of all, oil and gas come from porous rock formations, not some underground cavern. Fluid flow through a porous medium is fairly complex, but here's a basic principle that's easy to understand. When you make a hole through the porus medium, the potential for flow into that hole increases exponentially with the increase in the diameter of the hole or the increase in surface area exposed to lower pressures which create the potential for flow. That is why fracturing is so effective; creating greater surface area from which the oil/gas can flow into the well.

Now, what does a nuclear explosion do? Creates massive heat and a shock wave. Even in the little video animation, it shows fractures in the rock. So you have a massive release of energy that creates a cavern in the rock [link to ludb.clui.org] and you have fractures extending out from the cavern allowing whatever fluids from the layers of rock impacted by the explosion to flow into the cavern and between the layers of rock. Does this really sound like a good idea to anyone??

The kill method I'd most like to see: Take Jante Napolitano, Ken Salazar, that idiot-asshole Admiral what's-the-fuck-his-name, and the lying c-word Lisa Jackson and shove them all into the riser pipe... I'm sure it'll do nothing to stop the oil, but I'll feel a hell of a lot better and then all the gulf sea creatures wouldn't have died in vain.

on land!

in a salt mine!

we have the power of the atom since years, yet it's called unsafe...like prehistoric man afraid of fire before they explored it's many uses...

A 'massive' 60 Meg nuke should be put down there.. ready to blow.. which would make a 'mess' of things.. 'forcing' the aliens to intervene.. to stop the nuke & seal up the leak!

mad enuff for ya..?! lol

That will make the main stream for sure.

Yes this is true and I'm confident the current operation will be a success.

I can't find a working camera ... anyone else?

Listen, you blathering fool, you want to live like a medieval serf go right ahead! You are obviously mentally unstable with your pagan drivel about Gaia/mother earth, leeching blood etc.

Go eat your mud pies, shit in the woods, drink and wash in a creek if you can find one, huddle in your hut during blizzards and offer sacrifices to your pagan gods, but for Christ's sake, let the rest of us be!

I have a couple of questions about this.

First, if it were possible to drill a hole deep enough to accommodate a nuclear warhead, why not just drill the relief well instead?

If you watched the little movie in this thread they showed how a nuke was lowered into an adjacent wellhole and detonated, but you have to drill very deep in order to do this.

If you CAN drill that deep, why not just proceed with the relief well operation, it seems way safer and more conventional then detonating a bomb.

You will notice that the movie looks to be quite dated. Maybe they really didn't know how to make relief wells at that time and this was an early experiment in capping an out of control well. Maybe it was entirely a propaganda film produced to show positive uses for nuclear arms. Who knows? Why did the announcer have to have a Russian accent? Ridiculous.

My second question: Simmons bases his claims that there is a worse leak 5 or 6 miles away on heavy plumes of oil in that location. In fact, he goes on to state that the oil slick is the size of 3 states. Now how could it ever be possible in a slick of this magnitude to precisely locate the source of the leak based on plumes? The oil is not staying stationary directly above its source, after all. The oil is floating all over the place, naturally. How can you determine the precise location of another leak based on the location of a plume of oil? You can't. That is just ONE nonsensical statement from the nonstop gusher of crazy talk coming from this man's mouth.

I'm not saying that there isn't another leak far worse than the first leak. I'm just saying that they didn't find it based on plumes of oil. I'm saying that if the additional leak exists they know because they caused it. I'm saying that they know because they know the relief well blew out.
That really is the only logical explanation.

Here's a link to an earlier article about the relief well:
[link to www.bloomberg.com]

Hey Rob ,

That must have been when a couple of us watched the feed and said that the BOP was moving, it looked as if they were moving it. You amongst others at first said it could not have been so coz of the weight of that machinery ...
but reading you say about a possible EQ-tremor-ground shake-up that makes sence and explains what we all withnessed !


Could this heve been a real EQ, or more the ground reacting on the release of so much oil and gas ?
In the GOM there were a couple of strange mysterious EQ's a few years ago, there are faultlines in that sea !

We are realy doomed if all this (drilling and pumping and maybe nucking) is going to affect the plates and the strenght of the walls of the oilfield ... What if it all collapses and bringing us into a chain of events

nuke would cause a massive tital wave, coastal cities gone.

Game end.

Insert a pipe that is the length of the well.

Pump white phosphorus down the pipe mixed with nano thermite.

Both of those do not require oxygen to burn and they burn at thousands of degrees. This (in theory) would melt the pipe and surrounding rock into a permanent plug by fusing them all together.

Opinions?

Say what you will, but the Russians are achieving their pipeline goals by sitting around conference tables with other nations and making $ deals and not, ala USSA, invading and destroying sovereign nations to STEAL their natural resources. There is a significant difference.

By the way, how much FUEL are all these US military invasions & occupations USING and what's the cost?

[link to www.bp.com]

BARRELS under water ...

Yesterday someone took a screenshot of these barrels, and asked the question WHAT ARE THEY DOING THERE?

[link to www.mijnalbum.nl]


.... OMG ...
(maybe and hopefully they are just harmless and not "going-to-be-bombs")

Better idea:

Drill another hole joining the first one in a couple of hundreds of meters below the surface.

The oil will then spill into two holes. Suck this oil up, the spill should decrease.

SHIT WE NEED SOME IDEAS AND NOT THIS FINGER POINTING AND WHINING. GET YOUR FINGER OUT OF YOUR ASS AND ACT. SHIT.

I always thought americans are people taking things into their hand not afraid of risks and willing to solve problems and obstacles they face.

This seems to have changed under Obama. He is rather busy praising islam
[link to edition.cnn.com]

Shit you are headless and clueless. SHIT SHIT SHIT !!!

This guy and myself. The only nonshills or normals here.
This guy and me.

answer to junkshot failure.....

golf balls and pieces of plastic are too small to plug the holes in the containment vesses... so the ANSWER IS>>>>


send down the pipe spring loaded carbon steel umbrellas that deploy when they reach the opening of the pipes distal end... the geometry can be anything they want it to be and the metal umbrellas will withstand the pressure and wont deform even under extreem pressures. please foward to BP.

I'm on dial-up so most of the videos don't work for me.

I've seen a few that were compatible with my crappy system, not many.

I want to ask, have they shown any images of the sunken drilling rig, itself?

How far away is it from where they've shown the leak footage?


And does annyone know what depth the OTHER leak is, that's '5 or 6 miles' away?

Any films of that?

Doubt it, but wondering.

Peak oil is another artful fabrication just like the "rarity of diamonds" and soon TPTB will convince you of peak water and peak air, which they, in fact, might bring about. "Modern Russian and Ukrainian scientists have extensively proven is that petroleum is abiotic."

However, since it well serves the greedy designs of TPTB, it continues to be promoted. Clearly, it still fools some of the people, some of the time.

Here is what you do.

Thread the pipe below the leak maybe 10 feet. Cut the pipe above the thread. place a pipe that fits the thread on the outside of the spraying pipe (if this is difficult, they have pipes that will clamp onto the ouside of the pipe). Turn off the cutoff valve in the new pipe.

I find it ridiculous to believe that this can't be handled in this manner.


There are also fuses from the military that will cut right through the pipe in seconds. Cut the pipe about 3000 feet down. cut the pipe there and the ground pressure should fill in blocking the oil flow.



Originally thought the nuke idea was a good one. You do that, end of story for several of the states due to massive tital wave. Texas and Florida would be wiped off the face of the earth.

Those are buoyancy devices to hold up hoses so they don't kink if I recall