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Winningjob User ID: 385114 United States 05/30/2010 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the families and loved ones that are serving, have served or will served..THANK YOU, for you too serve and go through many, many hardships, struggles and emotions that others can not realize. To all my former battle buddies..I miss you, keep you, love you and thank you. To all that didn't come back and to those that died in training, I keep you in my heart, ARMY strong..love you. |
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The Guy User ID: 952343 United States 05/30/2010 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you to all who have served and are serving now in any branch of the military. Thank you all that have gone before and will go in the future. Quoting: WinningjobTo the families and loved ones that are serving, have served or will served..THANK YOU, for you too serve and go through many, many hardships, struggles and emotions that others can not realize. To all my former battle buddies..I miss you, keep you, love you and thank you. To all that didn't come back and to those that died in training, I keep you in my heart, ARMY strong..love you. I feel and agree with your sincerity. However, "Army Strong" always makes me laugh. Sounds like a cave man wrote the slogan, lol. I miss "Be All You Can Be." It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
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orby User ID: 987071 United States 05/30/2010 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank You to our military, Quoting: dennis msoldiers, Navy Marines Army Air Force Coast Guard CAMP LEJEUNE MARINE CORPS BASE, Colonels, Privates Sargents Luitenants Generals Admirals Commander-in-Chiefs super-blessings to you and yours, Grace and peace be multiplied to you, Salvation in our LORD JESUS CHRIST to you, May our enemies convert to Christ , right now, may their hearts be filled with God-like Love, I pray in Jesus Name, and plead His Blood, amen Why do you hate Corporals? |
:) User ID: 985249 Canada 05/30/2010 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't they get paid to serve? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 862202How about a big thank you for those that pay for the service? The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars Mutilated Our Economy $1,000,000,000,000.00 As of today, that's how much we've spent just in direct costs so far on the stupid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. One trillion dollars, gone. And we're just getting warmed up...there are trillions more in future direct and indirect costs coming. These two wars mutilated our economy. There's no other way to say it. We've taken huge sums of wealth out of the economy and done things with it that further damaged the economy. People are out of work and hurting today because we chose to launch two wars that aren't worth the cost. The most glaring example of this dynamic is the use of hundreds of billions of taxpayer money to invade and occupy Iraq, which led to higher oil prices, which hit taxpayers again in their pocketbooks. Many other examples exist: We pay to train American kids to kill in Afghanistan. We pay to ship them overseas where they die or get injured. We pay for medical care for the survivors. Their families lose both the wounded's income and often lose additional income when loved ones reduce work hours to stay home and care for the wounded. The list of these vicious cycles goes on and on. In all cases, our government actually charges us for the privilege of having an even harder time making it in this tough economy. Actually, it's worse than that. The government charges us for the privilege of having a tough economy in the first place. According to the Center for Economic and Policy Research's (CEPR) Dean Baker: "In standard economic models, defense spending is a direct drain on the economy, reducing efficiency, slowing growth and costing jobs. ...tandard economic models...project that the increase in defense spending since 2000 will cost the economy close to two million jobs in the long run." Baker's point in his article was that groups that scream about potential "job loss" from government "interference" never put that "loss" in any context. Government spending does stimulate economic activity during a downturn. The question is, how stimulative is one type of spending versus another? So let's make sure we're playing fair and put this in some perspective in terms of job creation. It turns out that, excluding tax cuts for consumption, war spending is the least stimulative type of government spending. An October 2007 study by the Political Economy Research Institute (PERI) found that per $1 billion invested in the following fields, you create wildly different numbers of jobs: * Defense: 8,555 jobs * Construction for home weatherization/infrastructure: 12,804 jobs * Health care: 12,883 jobs * Education: 17,687 jobs * Mass transit: 19,795 jobs So if you take $1 billion in taxpayer dollars and spend it on war versus on building energy efficient homes and other infrastructure, the opportunity cost for that spending is 4,249 potential jobs. Spending it on war versus mass transit costs you 11,240 potential jobs. Now consider that $1 trillion is one thousand billion. Because we're spending so many billions--now trillions--of dollars on these two wars, we're losing hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of potential jobs. PERI concludes that: ...y addressing social needs in the areas of health care, education, education, mass transit, home weatherization and infrastructure repairs, we would also create more jobs and, depending on the specifics of how such a reallocation is pursued, both an overall higher level of compensation for working people in the U.S. and a better average quality of jobs. These lost potential jobs aren't even the whole picture. We also lose the fruits of spending that money in more productive ways, which, according to the National Priorities Project, include: * 188,536,667 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR * 8,139,680 Affordable Housing Units OR * 461,193,337 Children with Health Care for One Year But hey, at least these wars are working out well for BP, right? [link to www.newshoggers.com] |
Winningjob User ID: 385114 United States 05/30/2010 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I feel and agree with your sincerity. However, "Army Strong" always makes me laugh. Sounds like a cave man wrote the slogan, lol. I miss "Be All You Can Be." Quoting: The GuyLOL, yeah, Be all you can be was the most successful one. I hated Army of One the most! Hey...what is the Navy using these days anyway? Is it, “America’s Navy: A global force for good"? I miss "Full Speed Ahead" and Accelerate you life! |
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Nikki_LaVey User ID: 962978 United States 05/30/2010 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't they get paid to serve? Quoting: :) 985249How about a big thank you for those that pay for the service? The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars Mutilated Our Economy $1,000,000,000,000.00 As of today, that's how much we've spent just in direct costs so far on the stupid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. One trillion dollars, gone. And we're just getting warmed up...there are trillions more in future direct and indirect costs coming. These two wars mutilated our economy. There's no other way to say it. We've taken huge sums of wealth out of the economy and done things with it that further damaged the economy. People are out of work and hurting today because we chose to launch two wars that aren't worth the cost. The most glaring example of this dynamic is the use of hundreds of billions of taxpayer money to invade and occupy Iraq, which led to higher oil prices, which hit taxpayers again in their pocketbooks. Many other examples exist: We pay to train American kids to kill in Afghanistan. We pay to ship them overseas where they die or get injured. We pay for medical care for the survivors. Their families lose both the wounded's income and often lose additional income when loved ones reduce work hours to stay home and care for the wounded. The list of these vicious cycles goes on and on. In all cases, our government actually charges us for the privilege of having an even harder time making it in this tough economy. Actually, it's worse than that. The government charges us for the privilege of having a tough economy in the first place. According to the Center for Economic and Policy Research's (CEPR) Dean Baker: "In standard economic models, defense spending is a direct drain on the economy, reducing efficiency, slowing growth and costing jobs. ...tandard economic models...project that the increase in defense spending since 2000 will cost the economy close to two million jobs in the long run." Baker's point in his article was that groups that scream about potential "job loss" from government "interference" never put that "loss" in any context. Government spending does stimulate economic activity during a downturn. The question is, how stimulative is one type of spending versus another? So let's make sure we're playing fair and put this in some perspective in terms of job creation. It turns out that, excluding tax cuts for consumption, war spending is the least stimulative type of government spending. An October 2007 study by the Political Economy Research Institute (PERI) found that per $1 billion invested in the following fields, you create wildly different numbers of jobs: * Defense: 8,555 jobs * Construction for home weatherization/infrastructure: 12,804 jobs * Health care: 12,883 jobs * Education: 17,687 jobs * Mass transit: 19,795 jobs So if you take $1 billion in taxpayer dollars and spend it on war versus on building energy efficient homes and other infrastructure, the opportunity cost for that spending is 4,249 potential jobs. Spending it on war versus mass transit costs you 11,240 potential jobs. Now consider that $1 trillion is one thousand billion. Because we're spending so many billions--now trillions--of dollars on these two wars, we're losing hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of potential jobs. PERI concludes that: ...y addressing social needs in the areas of health care, education, education, mass transit, home weatherization and infrastructure repairs, we would also create more jobs and, depending on the specifics of how such a reallocation is pursued, both an overall higher level of compensation for working people in the U.S. and a better average quality of jobs. These lost potential jobs aren't even the whole picture. We also lose the fruits of spending that money in more productive ways, which, according to the National Priorities Project, include: * 188,536,667 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR * 8,139,680 Affordable Housing Units OR * 461,193,337 Children with Health Care for One Year But hey, at least these wars are working out well for BP, right? [link to www.newshoggers.com] Your Canadian you don't pay taxes in the U.S.! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
The Guy User ID: 952343 United States 05/30/2010 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, yeah, Be all you can be was the most successful one. I hated Army of One the most! Quoting: WinningjobHey...what is the Navy using these days anyway? Is it, “America’s Navy: A global force for good"? I miss "Full Speed Ahead" and Accelerate you life! Ugh, don't get me started! I hate the new slogan. The one that got me was, "Let the Journey Begin." As a side note, have you heard that Adm. Mullen has suggested that we in the Navy call each other "sea warrior" rather than "shipmate?" It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out. |
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ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/30/2010 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a side note, have you heard that Adm. Mullen has suggested that we in the Navy call each other "sea warrior" rather than "shipmate?" Quoting: The GuyNo way... really? I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 962978 United States 05/30/2010 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | LOL, yeah, Be all you can be was the most successful one. I hated Army of One the most! Quoting: The GuyHey...what is the Navy using these days anyway? Is it, “America’s Navy: A global force for good"? I miss "Full Speed Ahead" and Accelerate you life! Ugh, don't get me started! I hate the new slogan. The one that got me was, "Let the Journey Begin." As a side note, have you heard that Adm. Mullen has suggested that we in the Navy call each other "sea warrior" rather than "shipmate?" I'm not sure but when I joined the Air Force I think it was "Aim High" How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 680963 United States 05/30/2010 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This really shouldn't be a thread challenging anyone's reasons for serving...just a recognition that they did, and that over the years many have given their lives.. I don't know of ANY soldier who put themselves in the line of fire just because they had nothing better to do, or just for the hell of it..I can't imagine them being there if they did...so my hat's off to all servicemen, past, present, and future... |
dennis m User ID: 931797 United States 05/30/2010 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank You to our military, Quoting: orbysoldiers, Navy Marines Army Air Force Coast Guard CAMP LEJEUNE MARINE CORPS BASE, Colonels, Privates Sargents Luitenants Generals Admirals Commander-in-Chiefs super-blessings to you and yours, Grace and peace be multiplied to you, Salvation in our LORD JESUS CHRIST to you, May our enemies convert to Christ , right now, may their hearts be filled with God-like Love, I pray in Jesus Name, and plead His Blood, amen Why do you hate Corporals? Thank you to the Corporals, i'm sorry, i don't know all the ranks, very well www.bible-codes.org SIGNS FROM GOD |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 962978 United States 05/30/2010 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure but when I joined the Air Force I think it was "Aim High" Quoting: WinningjobI am starting to feel old (not really) remembering all these slogans! I remember Aim High..perhaps their best one. What is the one they use now, "Above All"? I have no idea. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Evil Twin 05/30/2010 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This really shouldn't be a thread challenging anyone's reasons for serving...just a recognition that they did, and that over the years many have given their lives.. I don't know of ANY soldier who put themselves in the line of fire just because they had nothing better to do, or just for the hell of it..I can't imagine them being there if they did...so my hat's off to all servicemen, past, present, and future... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680963Some people never miss an opportunity to spit on a grave. What's strange is, those same people consider themselves the 'enlightened'. |
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ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/30/2010 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW, no I hadn't heard that. Quoting: The GuyNo way... really? Not kidding. Haven't heard anything about it being official yet. I hope not! "Shipmate" is really versatile. And 'sea warrior' is limp-style. I hope you guys don't get pegged w/that one... esp as a reg. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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:) User ID: 985249 Canada 05/30/2010 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't they get paid to serve? Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyHow about a big thank you for those that pay for the service? The Iraq and Afghanistan Wars Mutilated Our Economy $1,000,000,000,000.00 As of today, that's how much we've spent just in direct costs so far on the stupid wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. One trillion dollars, gone. And we're just getting warmed up...there are trillions more in future direct and indirect costs coming. These two wars mutilated our economy. There's no other way to say it. We've taken huge sums of wealth out of the economy and done things with it that further damaged the economy. People are out of work and hurting today because we chose to launch two wars that aren't worth the cost. The most glaring example of this dynamic is the use of hundreds of billions of taxpayer money to invade and occupy Iraq, which led to higher oil prices, which hit taxpayers again in their pocketbooks. Many other examples exist: We pay to train American kids to kill in Afghanistan. We pay to ship them overseas where they die or get injured. We pay for medical care for the survivors. Their families lose both the wounded's income and often lose additional income when loved ones reduce work hours to stay home and care for the wounded. The list of these vicious cycles goes on and on. In all cases, our government actually charges us for the privilege of having an even harder time making it in this tough economy. Actually, it's worse than that. The government charges us for the privilege of having a tough economy in the first place. According to the Center for Economic and Policy Research's (CEPR) Dean Baker: "In standard economic models, defense spending is a direct drain on the economy, reducing efficiency, slowing growth and costing jobs. ...tandard economic models...project that the increase in defense spending since 2000 will cost the economy close to two million jobs in the long run." Baker's point in his article was that groups that scream about potential "job loss" from government "interference" never put that "loss" in any context. Government spending does stimulate economic activity during a downturn. The question is, how stimulative is one type of spending versus another? So let's make sure we're playing fair and put this in some perspective in terms of job creation. It turns out that, excluding tax cuts for consumption, war spending is the least stimulative type of government spending. An October 2007 study by the Political Economy Research Institute (PERI) found that per $1 billion invested in the following fields, you create wildly different numbers of jobs: * Defense: 8,555 jobs * Construction for home weatherization/infrastructure: 12,804 jobs * Health care: 12,883 jobs * Education: 17,687 jobs * Mass transit: 19,795 jobs So if you take $1 billion in taxpayer dollars and spend it on war versus on building energy efficient homes and other infrastructure, the opportunity cost for that spending is 4,249 potential jobs. Spending it on war versus mass transit costs you 11,240 potential jobs. Now consider that $1 trillion is one thousand billion. Because we're spending so many billions--now trillions--of dollars on these two wars, we're losing hundreds of thousands, possibly millions, of potential jobs. PERI concludes that: ...y addressing social needs in the areas of health care, education, education, mass transit, home weatherization and infrastructure repairs, we would also create more jobs and, depending on the specifics of how such a reallocation is pursued, both an overall higher level of compensation for working people in the U.S. and a better average quality of jobs. These lost potential jobs aren't even the whole picture. We also lose the fruits of spending that money in more productive ways, which, according to the National Priorities Project, include: * 188,536,667 Students receiving Pell Grants of $5550 OR * 8,139,680 Affordable Housing Units OR * 461,193,337 Children with Health Care for One Year But hey, at least these wars are working out well for BP, right? [link to www.newshoggers.com] Your Canadian you don't pay taxes in the U.S.! Our taxes and blood are paying for your war too Nikki. Afghan war costs $22B, so far: study VICTORIA, B.C. - The Afghan war is going to end up costing the Defence Department more than $22 billion, in actual money spent on the mission and future payments to rebuild equipment and provide long-term care for veterans, a military conference heard yesterday. By The Ottawa Citizen September 18, 2008 [link to www.canada.com] |
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The Sun2 User ID: 853214 United States 05/30/2010 11:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a USMC Viet Nam Vet, but I did not serve in Viet Nam. However I did work with the Boat People coming in from Viet Nam and was the first woman Marine 'Flight Crew Captain'. In 'those days' there were only 2,000 WM's verses todays 200,000 WM's. It was an interesting time and I have heard more stories than I care to remember. To all of our fallen brothers and sisters, Semper Fi and God Bless you. Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
paranoid eyes User ID: 823195 United States 05/30/2010 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you to everyone one that serves. now do the world a favor and quit the military. your sucking up tax dollars and the sane part of the country don't like it. if you want to murder for cash join the mafia. at least the foods good and I won't have to pay for your dumb ass when you get it shot off. |
The Sun2 User ID: 853214 United States 05/30/2010 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you to everyone one that serves. now do the world a favor and quit the military. your sucking up tax dollars and the sane part of the country don't like it. if you want to murder for cash join the mafia. at least the foods good and I won't have to pay for your dumb ass when you get it shot off. Quoting: paranoid eyes 823195Shame on you. Many lives have been lost to allow you to speak freely and this is what you can disrespectfully say? Thread: ARE THEY GOING TO CRASH THE INTERNET? Thread: They have taken over our Constitution via UCC and here is how they did it! "God sleeps in the rocks, stirs in the plants, dreams in the animals, and finally awakens in man." -Famous Vedic Quote- [link to youtu.be] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 967767 Canada 05/30/2010 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank you to everyone one that serves. now do the world a favor and quit the military. your sucking up tax dollars and the sane part of the country don't like it. if you want to murder for cash join the mafia. at least the foods good and I won't have to pay for your dumb ass when you get it shot off. Quoting: The Sun2Shame on you. Many lives have been lost to allow you to speak freely and this is what you can disrespectfully say? Pffff! You got to be kidding, right? Freedom of speech and democracy hahahahah |