Still a fan of Ron Paul after the GOM calamity?

3500 oil rigs in the GOM alone, now Ron Paul is a bastard because 1 fails...ok

You prove my point...all it takes is one failure to produce catastrophic carnage to the environment. Politicians like Ron Paul have encouraged the kind of cut-corners/ profit-before-safety culture that led to the Deepwater Horizon blowout.

3500 oil rigs in the GOM alone, now Ron Paul is a bastard because 1 fails...ok


no, he is not a bastard because one fails, he is a bastard because he continuously has voted FOR welfare for major oil companies and AGAINST subsidies for solar wind and other energy corporations

he is yet another politician bought sold and paid for by the oil companies

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Q: Bush’s energy bill provided billions of dollars in tax breaks & subsidies to the oil companies with the goal of boosting domestic production at a time of record profits. Do you support that?

A: I don’t think the profits is the issue. The profits are okay if they’re legitimately earned in a free market. What I object to are subsidies to big corporations when we subsidize them and give them R&D money. I don’t think that should be that way. They should take it out of the funds that they earn.

[link to www.ontheissues.org]


Where is the welfare?

If you think this is reason to hate Ron Paul you are a mother fucking moron..

Q: Bush’s energy bill provided billions of dollars in tax breaks & subsidies to the oil companies with the goal of boosting domestic production at a time of record profits. Do you support that?

A: I don’t think the profits is the issue. The profits are okay if they’re legitimately earned in a free market. What I object to are subsidies to big corporations when we subsidize them and give them R&D money. I don’t think that should be that way. They should take it out of the funds that they earn.

[link to www.ontheissues.org]


Where is the welfare?

Q: Bush’s energy bill provided billions of dollars in tax breaks & subsidies to the oil companies with the goal of boosting domestic production at a time of record profits. Do you support that?

A: I don’t think the profits is the issue. The profits are okay if they’re legitimately earned in a free market. What I object to are subsidies to big corporations when we subsidize them and give them R&D money. I don’t think that should be that way. They should take it out of the funds that they earn.

[link to www.ontheissues.org]


Where is the welfare?


Scroll down the page...he voted against ending the subsidies for Big Oil. A politician's voting record speaks louder than his words.

You prove my point...all it takes is one failure to produce catastrophic carnage to the environment. Politicians like Ron Paul have encouraged the kind of cut-corners/ profit-before-safety culture that led to the Deepwater Horizon blowout.

Ron Paul's record on Energy and Oil:

[link to www.ontheissues.org]

Ron Paul has FAILED bigtime on this issue. Ron Paul mania has been sunk along with Deepwater Horizon.

Q: Bush’s energy bill provided billions of dollars in tax breaks & subsidies to the oil companies with the goal of boosting domestic production at a time of record profits. Do you support that?

A: I don’t think the profits is the issue. The profits are okay if they’re legitimately earned in a free market. What I object to are subsidies to big corporations when we subsidize them and give them R&D money. I don’t think that should be that way. They should take it out of the funds that they earn.

[link to www.ontheissues.org]


Where is the welfare?


Scroll down the page...he voted against ending the subsidies for Big Oil. A politician's voting record speaks louder than his words.



Are those subsidies for R&D?

You prove my point...all it takes is one failure to produce catastrophic carnage to the environment. Politicians like Ron Paul have encouraged the kind of cut-corners/ profit-before-safety culture that led to the Deepwater Horizon blowout.

You are also anti nuclear energy? I failed in Chernobyl, they are still cleaning up

I ask you this, why subsidize anything? We (the taxpayer/consumer) will pay, either through taxes or higher energy costs. It's obvious you are a clean energy advocate, fine and dandy, do the right thing and CONSERVE. That is the only real choice until a CHEAP, PLENTIFUL replacement for oil can be discovered.

You prove my point...all it takes is one failure to produce catastrophic carnage to the environment. Politicians like Ron Paul have encouraged the kind of cut-corners/ profit-before-safety culture that led to the Deepwater Horizon blowout.

You are also anti nuclear energy? I failed in Chernobyl, they are still cleaning up

I ask you this, why subsidize anything? We (the taxpayer/consumer) will pay, either through taxes or higher energy costs. It's obvious you are a clean energy advocate, fine and dandy, do the right thing and CONSERVE. That is the only real choice until a CHEAP, PLENTIFUL replacement for oil can be discovered.


yeah...well i'm not perfect..to my credit i've lived without a car for 14 years, been close to vegan for 10 years, and have lived on small organic farms/ecovillages for 9 years. i'm basically living out of 2 suitcases right now.

but not to poo poo zero point and other "exotics". one of my close associates is the president of the organization in Northeast USA doing research on zero point. plus, my mother's mad ex-MIT graduate physicist boyfriend invented (or reinvented) a technology to run engines on water (HHO gas).

You prove my point...all it takes is one failure to produce catastrophic carnage to the environment. Politicians like Ron Paul have encouraged the kind of cut-corners/ profit-before-safety culture that led to the Deepwater Horizon blowout.

You are also anti nuclear energy? I failed in Chernobyl, they are still cleaning up

I ask you this, why subsidize anything? We (the taxpayer/consumer) will pay, either through taxes or higher energy costs. It's obvious you are a clean energy advocate, fine and dandy, do the right thing and CONSERVE. That is the only real choice until a CHEAP, PLENTIFUL replacement for oil can be discovered.


yeah...well i'm not perfect..to my credit i've lived without a car for 14 years, been close to vegan for 10 years, and have lived on small organic farms/ecovillages for 9 years. i'm basically living out of 2 suitcases right now.

but not to poo poo zero point and other "exotics". one of my close associates is the president of the organization in Northeast USA doing research on zero point. plus, my mother's mad ex-MIT graduate physicist boyfriend invented (or reinvented) a technology to run engines on water (HHO gas).

Sounds like you are in the top 1% of energy conservationists. So, why do you want to help pay for other folks'(energy)wasteful lifestyles? You know they will continue their wastful ways until it herts then financially

The opinions of those who support authoritarianism are not valid in the eyes of the freedom-loving individuals.

It is you that accepted our dependence on oil, instead of demanding the alternative energies we all know they have.

Completely unregulated markets are the only acceptable form of economics. That's not an opinion, because coercion is always immoral.

You prove my point...all it takes is one failure to produce catastrophic carnage to the environment. Politicians like Ron Paul have encouraged the kind of cut-corners/ profit-before-safety culture that led to the Deepwater Horizon blowout.

You are also anti nuclear energy? I failed in Chernobyl, they are still cleaning up

I ask you this, why subsidize anything? We (the taxpayer/consumer) will pay, either through taxes or higher energy costs. It's obvious you are a clean energy advocate, fine and dandy, do the right thing and CONSERVE. That is the only real choice until a CHEAP, PLENTIFUL replacement for oil can be discovered.


yeah...well i'm not perfect..to my credit i've lived without a car for 14 years, been close to vegan for 10 years, and have lived on small organic farms/ecovillages for 9 years. i'm basically living out of 2 suitcases right now.

but not to poo poo zero point and other "exotics". one of my close associates is the president of the organization in Northeast USA doing research on zero point. plus, my mother's mad ex-MIT graduate physicist boyfriend invented (or reinvented) a technology to run engines on water (HHO gas).

Sounds like you are in the top 1% of energy conservationists. So, why do you want to help pay for other folks'(energy)wasteful lifestyles? You know they will continue their wastful ways until it herts then financially


good point...actually while i believe in certain "exotic" forms of energy that could replace fossil fuel in a heartbeat with government sponsorship...i don't believe the consciousness level of most individuals on this planet is ready for the responsibility of appropriate usage.

nevertheless, we are being sold a lie about the irreplaceability of fossil fuels in order to keep us tethered to the tit of our energy masters...and telling of the lie is not because our energy masters want us to be better stewards of the environment.