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6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon

 
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The "peaceful" terrorists were actually very well trained and organized in teams to attack and lynch each soldier who slide down from the choppers inside the vessels.
The jumped over them using knives, swords, iron rods, while the soldiers were only defending themselves with paintball guns ......they reached their personal guns, grabbed from them and attacked and shoot them.
They tried to tie the cables used by the soldiers to enter in the vessel, to the antennas of the ship, in order to provoke a coalition of the helicopter inside the sea, and kill all the IDF members on it.
Seven IDF soldiers are wounded, 2 of them are in critical condition.
The "ship of war", not "humanitarian" at all wanted only to provoke and ended so bad.
The op is still going on.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


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The "peaceful" terrorists were actually very well trained and organized in teams to attack and lynch each soldier who slide down from the choppers inside the vessels.
The jumped over them using knives, swords, iron rods, while the soldiers were only defending themselves with paintball guns ......they reached their personal guns, grabbed from them and attacked and shoot them.
They tried to tie the cables used by the soldiers to enter in the vessel, to the antennas of the ship, in order to provoke a coalition of the helicopter inside the sea, and kill all the IDF members on it.
Seven IDF soldiers are wounded, 2 of them are in critical condition.
The "ship of war", not "humanitarian" at all wanted only to provoke and ended so bad.
The op is still going on.



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Yup - exactly what happened, exactly the result intended!
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I believe Israel did this to provoke Iran to go to War with Israel. The Israeli Government are the evil ones that need to be put on trial for many war crimes. Who are the real terrorist, the world is pointing its fingers at the Israeli Government. Soldiers are just grunts taking orders. War is a racket.
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what is much more shocking than the killings (we are used to that from the IDF) is the zionist reaction to the tragedy

still there is no information about the whereabouts of some politicians
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If mathetes goes to New Earth I will be the human more surprised on Earth. A new cycle of twenty thousand years is what this motherfucker is going to have.
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Re: 6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon
The "peaceful" terrorists were actually very well trained and organized in teams to attack and lynch each soldier who slide down from the choppers inside the vessels.
The jumped over them using knives, swords, iron rods, while the soldiers were only defending themselves with paintball guns ......they reached their personal guns, grabbed from them and attacked and shoot them.
They tried to tie the cables used by the soldiers to enter in the vessel, to the antennas of the ship, in order to provoke a coalition of the helicopter inside the sea, and kill all the IDF members on it.
Seven IDF soldiers are wounded, 2 of them are in critical condition.
The "ship of war", not "humanitarian" at all wanted only to provoke and ended so bad.
The op is still going on.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~


If this is the case Israel must have a lot of videos to prove their case. I haven't seen any.
Again, Israel might be 10,000 times right in doing this and most of those people could have been terrorists, but you just can't attack a ship in international waters and then say they were the terrorists without solid proof of it.
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6 soldiers injured LOL ....


what rope burn.....stubbed their toe.....what a joke..
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Re: 6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon
The "peaceful" terrorists were actually very well trained and organized in teams to attack and lynch each soldier who slide down from the choppers inside the vessels.
The jumped over them using knives, swords, iron rods, while the soldiers were only defending themselves with paintball guns ......they reached their personal guns, grabbed from them and attacked and shoot them.
They tried to tie the cables used by the soldiers to enter in the vessel, to the antennas of the ship, in order to provoke a coalition of the helicopter inside the sea, and kill all the IDF members on it.
Seven IDF soldiers are wounded, 2 of them are in critical condition.
The "ship of war", not "humanitarian" at all wanted only to provoke and ended so bad.
The op is still going on.


If this is the case Israel must have a lot of videos to prove their case. I haven't seen any.
Again, Israel might be 10,000 times right in doing this and most of those people could have been terrorists, but you just can't attack a ship in international waters and then say they were the terrorists without solid proof of it.
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You need to watch the video that's from Turkey tv. The soliders repelling were attacked even before they made it to the boat deck.
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6 soldiers injured LOL ....


what rope burn.....stubbed their toe.....what a joke..
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Watch the video. They were attacked.

You attack an armed soldiers then expect to get killed.
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If you were watching a movie on tv you would be happy to see a brave captured trying to save his crew.
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The "peaceful" terrorists were actually very well trained and organized in teams to attack and lynch each soldier who slide down from the choppers inside the vessels.
The jumped over them using knives, swords, iron rods, while the soldiers were only defending themselves with paintball guns ......they reached their personal guns, grabbed from them and attacked and shoot them.
They tried to tie the cables used by the soldiers to enter in the vessel, to the antennas of the ship, in order to provoke a coalition of the helicopter inside the sea, and kill all the IDF members on it.
Seven IDF soldiers are wounded, 2 of them are in critical condition.
The "ship of war", not "humanitarian" at all wanted only to provoke and ended so bad.
The op is still going on.
 Quoting: ~GAIA~

well seeing it was a turkish vessel in international waters it should be given the right to do the investigation which is good seeing Israel's track record concerning Israeli investigations into their own misdoings...
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You attack an armed soldiers then expect to get killed.
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The soldiers had no right to be there. It was illegal. How the heck can you honestly defend the Israelis' actions?
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Re: 6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon
FUCK ALL YOU DEFENDERS OF SATAN'S STATE OF ISRAEL!!! redface

I thought Israel was only the little Satan, with the US of course being the Big Satan...get your propaganda down right before you post


I'm not a fucking Muslim, you DICK!

I'm an American who refuses to be Israel's Bitch anymore!
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Most Americans agree with you. The Israeli's may be shocked one day to see the lack of support they get despite their propaganda media working for them 24/7.
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Re: 6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon
Wow automatic military firearms against knives.

Were the Israel troops invited on board those ships in international waters?

I guess if someone entered my home uninvited i should be at their mercy instead of trying to defend my life and property.

FAIL

#1 How do you know for certain that is was just knives used?
A report states that violence turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon from one of the commandos. The weapon discharged, though it wasn't clear whether the activist fired it or if it went off accidentally.

#2 The US Navy & Coast guard board ships all the time

If you are flying no flag or flying several diff kinds or do not have a clearly defined country of registry, then you are de facto a pirate and can be boarded/challenged by any naval vessel.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: mathetes

Why don't you go there and report back to us you dumbfuck??
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Re: 6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon
1. A maritime blockade is in effect off the coast of Gaza. Such blockade has been imposed, as Israel is currently in a state of armed conflict with the Hamas regime that controls Gaza, which has repeatedly bombed civilian targets in Israel with weapons that have been smuggled into Gaza via the sea.

2. Maritime blockades are a legitimate and recognized measure under international law that may be implemented as part of an armed conflict at sea.

3. A blockade may be imposed at sea, including in international waters, so long as it does not bar access to the ports and coasts of neutral States.

4. The naval manuals of several western countries, including the US and England recognize the maritime blockade as an effective naval measure and set forth the various criteria that make a blockade valid, including the requirement of give due notice of the existence of the blockade.

5. In this vein, it should be noted that Israel publicized the existence of the blockade and the precise coordinates of such by means of the accepted international professional maritime channels. Israel also provided appropriate notification to the affected governments and to the organizers of the Gaza protest flotilla. Moreover, in real time, the ships participating in the protest flotilla were warned repeatedly that a maritime blockade is in effect.

6. Here, it should be noted that under customary law, knowledge of the blockade may be presumed once a blockade has been declared and appropriate notification has been granted, as above.

7. Under international maritime law, when a maritime blockade is in effect, no boats can enter the blockaded area. That includes both civilian and enemy vessels.

8. A State may take action to enforce a blockade. Any vessel that violates or attempts to violate a maritime blockade may be captured or even attacked under international law. The US Commander's Handbook on the Law of Naval Operations sets forth that a vessel is considered to be in attempt to breach a blockade from the time the vessel leaves its port with the intention of evading the blockade.

9. Here we should note that the protesters indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade by means of written and oral statements. Moreover, the route of these vessels indicated their clear intention to violate the blockade in violation of international law.

10. Given the protesters explicit intention to violate the naval blockade, Israel exercised its right under international law to enforce the blockade. It should be noted that prior to undertaking enforcement measures, explicit warnings were relayed directly to the captains of the vessels, expressing Israel's intent to exercise its right to enforce the blockade.

11. Israel had attempted to take control of the vessels participating in the flotilla by peaceful means and in an orderly fashion in order to enforce the blockade. Given the large number of vessels participating in the flotilla, an operational decision was made to undertake measures to enforce the blockade a certain distance from the area of the blockade.

12. Israeli personnel attempting to enforce the blockade were met with violence by the protesters and acted in self defense to fend off such attacks.
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Israeli soldiers in International Waters boarding that ship illegally in the first place makes them "pirates". Watch any pirate movie and tell us the shipmates being captured do not defend themselves against the pirates. Israel, you need to get rid of those who ordered this piracy by putting them on trial. Until then you will have justice come upon you however God wants it to be done.
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6 soldiers injured LOL ....


what rope burn.....stubbed their toe.....what a joke..



Watch the video. They were attacked.

You attack an armed soldiers then expect to get killed.
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what is much more shocking than the killings (we are used to that from the IDF) is the zionist reaction to the tragedy

still there is no information about the whereabouts of some politicians
 Quoting: Mel Fungshon


It's all there, you just have to look for it.

Netanyahu cancels Washington visit, returning home early from Canada - official statement
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shame
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what is much more shocking than the killings (we are used to that from the IDF) is the zionist reaction to the tragedy

still there is no information about the whereabouts of some politicians


It's all there, you just have to look for it.

Netanyahu cancels Washington visit, returning home early from Canada - official statement
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good......hope he never comes back or is allowed back.
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I created similar news on twitter.
Is that a lie too?
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the sequence of events is what is important right now. if the israelis opened fire first before any single one of them was threatened with a knife onboard the ship then it doesn't really leave any room for speculation / justification on behalf of the idf. i don't condone any kind of violence whatsoever but do they expect people will welcome them with open arms after they shoot at them?
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Wow - sensible!
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...

3. A blockade may be imposed at sea, including in international waters, so long as it does not bar access to the ports and coasts of neutral States.

....

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Do you have a reliable source to back up this statement?

I'm genuinely interested as it seems contrary to common sense and there are a number of comments flying around (including my own on another thread) that are based on the assumption that an attack in international water is illegal, and can therefore be justifiably repelled.
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The "peaceful" terrorists were actually very well trained and organized in teams to attack and lynch each soldier who slide down from the choppers inside the vessels.
The jumped over them using knives, swords, iron rods, while the soldiers were only defending themselves with paintball guns ......they reached their personal guns, grabbed from them and attacked and shoot them.
They tried to tie the cables used by the soldiers to enter in the vessel, to the antennas of the ship, in order to provoke a coalition of the helicopter inside the sea, and kill all the IDF members on it.
Seven IDF soldiers are wounded, 2 of them are in critical condition.
The "ship of war", not "humanitarian" at all wanted only to provoke and ended so bad.
The op is still going on.

well seeing it was a turkish vessel in international waters it should be given the right to do the investigation which is good seeing Israel's track record concerning Israeli investigations into their own misdoings...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 983448


A PRIVATE Turkish vessel with the stated intention of running the Israeli blockade - with armed mercenaries aboard..

Sad - but not hard to predict..

Last Edited by Grizzled Old Goat on 05/31/2010 10:19 AM
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Re: 6 Israeli soldiers wounded by members of the "peace" flotilla? AP report:Turned deadly after one of the activists grabbed a weapon
what is much more shocking than the killings (we are used to that from the IDF) is the zionist reaction to the tragedy

still there is no information about the whereabouts of some politicians


It's all there, you just have to look for it.

Netanyahu cancels Washington visit, returning home early from Canada - official statement
 Quoting: TXGal4Truth

Fuck off, you piece of shit, cock sucking zionist TERRORIST bitch!

You stupid fucking zionists will defend Israel NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, won't you?

You're so fucking transparent, and disgusting, i PRAY YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY GETS THE SAME TREATMENT AS THE CREW ON THE FLOTILLA DID BY YOUR PUSSY ASS ISRAELI SOLDIERS.

:bitch:
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So were some of the members armed?

More at Debka,which seems to be confirming that Israeli commandos did indeed board the ship

Foreign sources report up to 20 dead on the pro-Palestinian aid flotilla intercepted by Israeli naval commandos at sea report at least two passengers killed, Turkish sources say 10, up to 50 injured in clashes on board early Monday, May 31 80 miles at sea. Nationwide alert for disturbances declared in Israel. Israeli helicopters are ferrying injured to hospitals, passengers and six Israeli soldiers.
Turkey threatens Israel would suffer incalculable consequences, raising Ankara's hostility to Israel to a new level. The convoy was sponsored by Turkish prime minister Recep Erdogan with two objectives: to break Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip and deliver aid to its inhabitants.
The troops dropped by helicopters were said to have used gas canisters and gunfire against the passengers aboard the Turkish lead-vessel of the six-boat convoy after a soldier was knifed, leading to pandemonium aboard. The six boats remaining in the convoy are being escorted to the Israeli port of Ashdod. One source says the Israeli Arab Muslim extremist Raed Salah was among the casualties. The wounded will be treated in hospital. Other passengers will be deported through Ben Gurion international airport.
Israeli will deliver its aid cargo to Gaza overland after inspecting its contents.

Hours after the incident, the Israeli military spokesman had still not commented on the Arab and Turkish accounts. It was not clear for instance why Israel failed to jam the images broadcast from the boats.
Police have shut down Temple Mount, closed roads leading to Israeli Arab region and placed jails holding terrorists under tight security.
The Israeli ambassador was summoned to the Turkish foreign minister as protesters gather outside the Israeli consulate in Istanbul.

[link to www.debka.com]
 Quoting: mathetes


Hilarious.

Storm troopers storm your ship and begin their usual beating of the people they despise. Some are shot. A couple of dudes grab something and try to defend themselves and others. And that makes it the fault of those being attacked?

Palestine has the right to some food. What Israel is doing is not of God. It's of Satan. (If you want to hear the religion side of it) Otherwise, wrong is wrong. Israel is wrong. They need to change their ways.
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the sequence of events is what is important right now. if the israelis opened fire first before any single one of them was threatened with a knife onboard the ship then it doesn't really leave any room for speculation / justification on behalf of the idf. i don't condone any kind of violence whatsoever but do they expect people will welcome them with open arms after they shoot at them?

Wow - sensible!
 Quoting: Grizzled Old Goat



19 or more people (EXECUTED) without a court trial.
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Hilarious.

Storm troopers storm your ship and begin their usual beating of the people they despise. Some are shot. A couple of dudes grab something and try to defend themselves and others. And that makes it the fault of those being attacked?

Palestine has the right to some food. What Israel is doing is not of God. It's of Satan. (If you want to hear the religion side of it) Otherwise, wrong is wrong. Israel is wrong. They need to change their ways.
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+10000000000000000000000000

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Israeli soldiers in International Waters boarding that ship illegally in the first place makes them "pirates". Watch any pirate movie and tell us the shipmates being captured do not defend themselves against the pirates. Israel, you need to get rid of those who ordered this piracy by putting them on trial. Until then you will have justice come upon you however God wants it to be done.
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Jews are animals and will be slaughtered in due time.

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what is much more shocking than the killings (we are used to that from the IDF) is the zionist reaction to the tragedy

still there is no information about the whereabouts of some politicians


It's all there, you just have to look for it.

Netanyahu cancels Washington visit, returning home early from Canada - official statement

Fuck off, you piece of shit, cock sucking zionist TERRORIST bitch!

You stupid fucking zionists will defend Israel NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, won't you?

You're so fucking transparent, and disgusting, i PRAY YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY GETS THE SAME TREATMENT AS THE CREW ON THE FLOTILLA DID BY YOUR PUSSY ASS ISRAELI SOLDIERS.

bitch
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Is that a threat? You need to watch what you say idiot.
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