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ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/31/2010 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All aboard! Obama pals back violent Gaza flotilla Activists from president's circle of friends top supporters of anti-Israel protest ships Posted: May 31, 2010 2:27 pm Eastern The group behind the Gaza flotilla that engaged in deadly clashes with Israeli commandos today counts among its top supporters the friends and associates of President Barack Obama, namely the founders of the Weather Underground terrorist organization, William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, as well as Jodie Evans, the leader of the radical activist organization Code Pink. Earlier today, Israeli navy commandos raided the six-ship flotilla, encountering heavy resistance and live fire from the activists. Several activists were killed and dozens of others were reportedly injured, as were several of the Israeli commandos. The flotilla was organized by the Free Gaza Movement, a coalition of leftist human rights activists and pro-Palestinian groups engaged in attempts to break a blockade imposed by Israel on the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. Ayers, Dohrn and Evans' Code Pink have led several recent Free Gaza Movement initiatives, including attempted marches into the Gaza Strip. Dorhn was in the Middle East just last month on behalf of the movement. Ayers and Dohrn were close associates for years with President Obama, while Evans was a fundraiser and financial bundler for Obama's presidential campaign. The hot new best-seller, "The Manchurian President," by Aaron Klein reveals inside story on Team Obama and its members. Now available autographed at WND's Superstore! In January, WND reported Ayers, Dohrn and Evans were involved in provoking chaos on the streets of Egypt in an attempt to enter Gaza with the Free Gaza Movement to join in solidarity with the territory's population and leadership. The three helped to stir riots after the Egyptian government refused to allow a large number of protesters to enter neighboring Gaza. Eventually, the protesters accepted an Egyptian offer of allowing about 100 marchers into Gaza. Once in the territory, those marchers were reportedly met on the Gaza side by Hamas' former Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. At the time of the march, Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., wrote a letter in support of a "humanitarian delegation from Massachusetts" to Gaza. Members of Ayers', Dohrn and Evans' group documented on their blogs how Kerry's letter was used at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo while attempting to pressure Egypt to let their group into Gaza. Images of the letter were also posted on the Electronic Intifada website run by Ali Abunimah, who was with Evans' group in Egypt and who, WND previously reported, spoke at pro-Palestinian events in the 1990s alongside Obama. In one such event, a 1999 fundraiser for Palestinian "refugees," Abunimah recalled introducing Obama on stage. Kerry's office previously met with Code Pink members, WND has learned. Sarah Roche-Mahdi of Code Pink also is a member of the United for Peace and Justice Palestine Task Force, which met with Kerry's staffers. [link to www.wnd.com] I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 957169 United States 05/31/2010 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can the usa shoot down a missle over international waters when the trajectory is dead set on the usa? or do they have to wait until it crosses over the imaginary line before engaging and defending their citizens? this fartilla was a slow moving military threat but had a definite trajectory. |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 962978 United States 05/31/2010 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How come the flotilla could film in color with lights and the IDF couldn't? I have to go back and look but I could swear those "Iron Bars" being swung around looked like wood in the color footage but I could be wrong. How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 987957 United States 05/31/2010 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can the usa shoot down a missle over international waters when the trajectory is dead set on the usa? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957169or do they have to wait until it crosses over the imaginary line before engaging and defending their citizens? this fartilla was a slow moving military threat but had a definite trajectory. You're the biggest fucking idiot I've ever seen for comparing a humanitarian aid fleet with an intercontinental ballistic missle |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 934154 United States 05/31/2010 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How come the flotilla could film in color with lights and the IDF couldn't? Quoting: Nikki_LaVeyI have to go back and look but I could swear those "Iron Bars" being swung around looked like wood in the color footage but I could be wrong. Obviously, it was taken with night vision cameras, color doesn't work well at night, don't you know? |
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ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/31/2010 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ayers, Dohrn stir chaos in Middle East Obama's friends join protesters attempting to enter Gaza Posted: January 01, 2010 2:41 pm Eastern JERUSALEM Weatherman terrorists Williams Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn close associates for years of President Obama were involved in provoking chaos on the streets of Egypt this week in an attempt to enter the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip to join in solidarity with the territory's population and leadership. The protests were led in large part by Jodie Evans, co-founder of Code Pink, a far-left activist organization formed in 2002 to protest America's war in Iraq. The group previously met with Hamas and with leaders of the Taliban. Evans was a fundraiser and financial bundler for Obama's presidential campaign. Also protesting in Egypt was Ali Abunimah, co-founder of the anti-Israel Electronic Intifada website. WND previously reported Obama spoke at pro-Palestinian events in the 1990s alongside Abunimah. In one such event, a 1999 fundraiser for Palestinian "refugees," Abunimah recalls introducing Obama on stage. After arriving in Cairo, Evans appealed this week to Suzanne Mubarak, wife of Egypt's president, to allow some 1,400 activists to cross from Egypt into neighboring Gaza to march there, deliver humanitarian aid and stage a protest at an Israeli border crossing with thousands of Palestinian Gazans. Egypt's Interior Ministry had said the march was illegal and a threat to national security. Mubarak reportedly offered to allow only 100 activists to cross into Gaza. The decision was at first reportedly accepted by Evans but was later rejected, leading to protests throughout Cairo all week under a heavy police presence. The rioters claimed some of the protests were violent, but the claim could not be immediately confirmed. A press release by organizers claimed: "Members of the Gaza Freedom March are being forcibly detained in hotels around town as well as violently forced into pens in Tahir Square by Egyptian police and additional security forces. Reports of police brutality are flooding a delegate legal hotline faster than the legal support team can answer the calls. The reports span from women being kicked, beaten to the ground and dragged into pens, at least one confirmed account of broken ribs, and many left bloody." The website Big Government notes author Philip Weiss wrote of witnessing Ayers' and Dohrn's involvement in the debate about whether to accept Egypt's offer of allowing only a limited number of protesters to enter Gaza. "As for the Egyptian statement that only hooligans were staying behind in Cairo ... Dohrn said that the principle of 'All or none' was a miserable one for activist politics. ... A European man in a red keffiyeh screamed at her that she was serving the fascisti. Her partner Bill Ayers gently confronted him and asked him why he was so out of control." Dohrn later wrote on a blog that she was briefly detained at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo following protests there by her group. "Bill and I went to the American Embassy at 10 am and asked to see the Ambassador. We were ushered into a holding pen a block away from the embassy building where we joined 35 people already there, surrounded by Egyptian soldiers," she wrote. Protests also were staged in front of other foreign embassies as well as in a public area in central Cairo. Eventually, the protesters accepted the Egyptian offer of allowing about 100 marchers into Gaza. The marchers entered Gaza Wednesday and were reportedly met on the Gaza side by Hamas' former Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. We have managed to overcome the occupation plans and we will surely meet at the al-Aqsa Mosque and in Jerusalem, which will remain Arab and Islamic," Haniyeh declared. Evans squarely blamed Israel for Egypt's refusal to allow her group to cross en mass into Gaza. "Its obvious that the only reason for it is to make Israel happy. Israel is behind the refusal what other excuse could there be?" Earlier this week, WND reported Ayers was one of 431 academics to sign a petition calling for divestment, boycott and sanctions against Israel. Also signing the petition were Evans and Abunimah. Close Obama associates Abunimah traveled in some of the same political circles as Obama in the 1990s. Abunimah previously described meeting with Obama at a fundraiser at the home of Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, reportedly a former PLO activist. Khalidi was also a close associate of Obama. "[Obama]came with his wife. That's where I had a chance to really talk to him," Abunimah recalled. "It was an intimate setting. He convinced me he was very aware of the issues [and] critical of U.S. bias toward Israel and lack of sensitivity to Arabs. ... He was very supportive of U.S. pressure on Israel. According to quotes obtained by Gulf News, Abunimah recalled a 2004 meeting in a Chicago neighborhood while Obama was running for his Senate seat. Abunimah quoted Obama telling him "warmly" he was sorry that "I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race." "I'm hoping when things calm down, I can be more up front," Abunimah reportedly quoted the senator as saying. Abunimah said Obama urged him to "keep up the good work" at the Chicago Tribune, where Abunimah contributed guest columns that were highly critical of Israel. Ayers, meanwhile, became a name in last year's presidential campaign when it was disclosed the radical worked closely with Obama for years. [link to www.wnd.com] I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 957169 United States 05/31/2010 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can the usa shoot down a missle over international waters when the trajectory is dead set on the usa? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987957or do they have to wait until it crosses over the imaginary line before engaging and defending their citizens? this fartilla was a slow moving military threat but had a definite trajectory. You're the biggest fucking idiot I've ever seen for comparing a humanitarian aid fleet with an intercontinental ballistic missle an unknown threat in hostile waters is always assumed to be dangerous. those were huge boats with plenty of room for biological or nuclear asw well as conventional weapons. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 957169 United States 05/31/2010 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're the biggest fucking idiot I've ever seen for comparing a humanitarian aid fleet with an intercontinental ballistic missle Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984269I concur. You're the biggest fucking idiots I've ever seen for actually believing this was purely 'humanitarian'. |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/31/2010 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Warships Trussed Up to Look Like Cruise Ships [link to flemingandhayes.com] So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 987957 United States 05/31/2010 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | can the usa shoot down a missle over international waters when the trajectory is dead set on the usa? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 957169or do they have to wait until it crosses over the imaginary line before engaging and defending their citizens? this fartilla was a slow moving military threat but had a definite trajectory. You're the biggest fucking idiot I've ever seen for comparing a humanitarian aid fleet with an intercontinental ballistic missle an unknown threat in hostile waters is always assumed to be dangerous. those were huge boats with plenty of room for biological or nuclear asw well as conventional weapons. So Israel doesn't allow any ships at all to enter their ports then, right? Of course they do. So your argument holds no water at all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 984269 United States 05/31/2010 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: TXGal4Truth Warships my ass! C'mon, are you that friggin dumb? I don't see any guns or missiles on those boats. Wooden sticks and pepper spray can hardly be considered part of a "warship". You're just making excuses for Israel. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 987896 United States 05/31/2010 04:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ayers, Dohrn stir chaos in Middle East Quoting: ScrumpTheTexanObama's friends join protesters attempting to enter Gaza Posted: January 01, 2010 2:41 pm Eastern JERUSALEM Weatherman terrorists Williams Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn close associates for years of President Obama were involved in provoking chaos on the streets of Egypt this week in an attempt to enter the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip to join in solidarity with the territory's population and leadership. The protests were led in large part by Jodie Evans, co-founder of Code Pink, a far-left activist organization formed in 2002 to protest America's war in Iraq. The group previously met with Hamas and with leaders of the Taliban. Evans was a fundraiser and financial bundler for Obama's presidential campaign. Also protesting in Egypt was Ali Abunimah, co-founder of the anti-Israel Electronic Intifada website. WND previously reported Obama spoke at pro-Palestinian events in the 1990s alongside Abunimah. In one such event, a 1999 fundraiser for Palestinian "refugees," Abunimah recalls introducing Obama on stage. After arriving in Cairo, Evans appealed this week to Suzanne Mubarak, wife of Egypt's president, to allow some 1,400 activists to cross from Egypt into neighboring Gaza to march there, deliver humanitarian aid and stage a protest at an Israeli border crossing with thousands of Palestinian Gazans. Egypt's Interior Ministry had said the march was illegal and a threat to national security. Mubarak reportedly offered to allow only 100 activists to cross into Gaza. The decision was at first reportedly accepted by Evans but was later rejected, leading to protests throughout Cairo all week under a heavy police presence. The rioters claimed some of the protests were violent, but the claim could not be immediately confirmed. A press release by organizers claimed: "Members of the Gaza Freedom March are being forcibly detained in hotels around town as well as violently forced into pens in Tahir Square by Egyptian police and additional security forces. Reports of police brutality are flooding a delegate legal hotline faster than the legal support team can answer the calls. The reports span from women being kicked, beaten to the ground and dragged into pens, at least one confirmed account of broken ribs, and many left bloody." The website Big Government notes author Philip Weiss wrote of witnessing Ayers' and Dohrn's involvement in the debate about whether to accept Egypt's offer of allowing only a limited number of protesters to enter Gaza. "As for the Egyptian statement that only hooligans were staying behind in Cairo ... Dohrn said that the principle of 'All or none' was a miserable one for activist politics. ... A European man in a red keffiyeh screamed at her that she was serving the fascisti. Her partner Bill Ayers gently confronted him and asked him why he was so out of control." Dohrn later wrote on a blog that she was briefly detained at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo following protests there by her group. "Bill and I went to the American Embassy at 10 am and asked to see the Ambassador. We were ushered into a holding pen a block away from the embassy building where we joined 35 people already there, surrounded by Egyptian soldiers," she wrote. Protests also were staged in front of other foreign embassies as well as in a public area in central Cairo. Eventually, the protesters accepted the Egyptian offer of allowing about 100 marchers into Gaza. The marchers entered Gaza Wednesday and were reportedly met on the Gaza side by Hamas' former Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. We have managed to overcome the occupation plans and we will surely meet at the al-Aqsa Mosque and in Jerusalem, which will remain Arab and Islamic," Haniyeh declared. Evans squarely blamed Israel for Egypt's refusal to allow her group to cross en mass into Gaza. "Its obvious that the only reason for it is to make Israel happy. Israel is behind the refusal what other excuse could there be?" Earlier this week, WND reported Ayers was one of 431 academics to sign a petition calling for divestment, boycott and sanctions against Israel. Also signing the petition were Evans and Abunimah. Close Obama associates Abunimah traveled in some of the same political circles as Obama in the 1990s. Abunimah previously described meeting with Obama at a fundraiser at the home of Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, reportedly a former PLO activist. Khalidi was also a close associate of Obama. "[Obama]came with his wife. That's where I had a chance to really talk to him," Abunimah recalled. "It was an intimate setting. He convinced me he was very aware of the issues [and] critical of U.S. bias toward Israel and lack of sensitivity to Arabs. ... He was very supportive of U.S. pressure on Israel. According to quotes obtained by Gulf News, Abunimah recalled a 2004 meeting in a Chicago neighborhood while Obama was running for his Senate seat. Abunimah quoted Obama telling him "warmly" he was sorry that "I haven't said more about Palestine right now, but we are in a tough primary race." "I'm hoping when things calm down, I can be more up front," Abunimah reportedly quoted the senator as saying. Abunimah said Obama urged him to "keep up the good work" at the Chicago Tribune, where Abunimah contributed guest columns that were highly critical of Israel. Ayers, meanwhile, became a name in last year's presidential campaign when it was disclosed the radical worked closely with Obama for years. [link to www.wnd.com] and..?? |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/31/2010 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Warships Trussed Up to Look Like Cruise Ships Quoting: Anonymous Coward 984269[link to flemingandhayes.com] Warships my ass! C'mon, are you that friggin dumb? I don't see any guns or missiles on those boats. Wooden sticks and pepper spray can hardly be considered part of a "warship". You're just making excuses for Israel. That's the whole point! So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 987957 United States 05/31/2010 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: TXGal4Truth You have to be kidding me if you believe this. So what was their plan? Blast their way through a vastly superior Israeli Navy? And avoid airstrikes the rest of the 70 miles as they move at like 5 mph? LOL...the things people will believe... |
GUANO User ID: 920391 United States 05/31/2010 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah... Israel should have just bent over to these ships and let these ships carrying paramilitaries go wherever the hell they wanted right? BULLSHIT! I can't believe what i'm hearing on this board today. some of you people are fucking retarded. I can't believe any of you would even suggest that this convoy be allowed to go "wherever the hell it wanted" --- If they wanted to deliver aid there was a port that they were directed to - they just didn't want to submit to a search party! Try coming to my home and not submitting to a search and see if I let you in.... Then see what happens when you try to force your way in to my home. Total Protonic Reversal... |
Hei User ID: 948409 Portugal 05/31/2010 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Warships Trussed Up to Look Like Cruise Ships Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987957[link to flemingandhayes.com] You have to be kidding me if you believe this. So what was their plan? Blast their way through a vastly superior Israeli Navy? And avoid airstrikes the rest of the 70 miles as they move at like 5 mph? LOL...the things people will believe... +2312312312312312312321312312312312313123 |
ScrumpTheTexan (OP) Forum Administrator User ID: 894450 United States 05/31/2010 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well son of a bitch!! I've heard both sides of this story, Quoting: Chawleeand I'll be damned if they both don't sound like bullshit. +1 I'm waiting on all 'available' evidence before drawing a conclusion on this one incident. However, I've expected this 'flotilla' to end up just this way from the start (a fuse to start a fire).. The Communists like Ayers & Code Pink (and their ilk) being involved directly or by support is why I expected this.. that's how they roll. I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |