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Goddrunk User ID: 986976 United States 05/31/2010 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 I'm pretty sure anything with the intent to injure another person is considered a weapon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958734^ Common sense. At least some people have it. "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." - Matthew 11:15 |
the writer chick User ID: 844118 United States 05/31/2010 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Hello... Quoting: me777weapons found!! Terrorists apologists....where are u? sling shots? lmfao give me a break gaia why would they bring them? arent them a pacifist group for human rights? did you see the Molotov bottle at the end? is nothing either? sorry but you guys just fucked up on this one.. and I am an israel supporter but when you gun down people with rocks and sticks and sling shots.. you've totally lost my support these people were in international waters these people were not attacking anyone THEY WERE ATTACKED BY ISRAEL there were NO WEAPONS on these ships if this pile of "tools" "toys" "sticks" and "kitchen equipment" are the best Israel can come up with.. you guys are seriously fucked will you trough us under the bus because of this? all your love is over now? what else would you do? THEY ATTACKED first, while the soldiers tried only to stop the ship. The World is turning against Israel, as it is been written in the Bible. People are loosing their senses, the ability to analyze the situation ... What happened is an obvious set up, premeditated and well prepared provocation. It is sad to see that people are buying the Islamic lie, it's sad to see only anti Israeli threads being pinned, and all the threads presenting Israel's side of the story ignored... Thank you for looking at the bigger picture and presenting it. As I sit here analyzing the situation what came to mind was the scripture which fortells it being hard to know the truth towards the end days - that it would be hard to discern evil from good. Everything that is happening is there in the Bible but many choose to ignore it, which is also foretold. For those of us that study and are possibly the watchmen, this comes as no surprise but puts an enormous load on our shoulders, because we must discern and understand events for what they are, then decide and pray about how to warn people- and who should be warned. For we are not to give our pearls to swine, we are to decide how to minister to those who are willing to be willing, and continue to fight the good fight. For our battle IS NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD as these incidents would try to convince us. This is only a distraction from the real truth. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 599165 United Kingdom 05/31/2010 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 I bet the soldiers ripped the pipes off the ship and placed them nicley on matt, because without the dangerous pipes... it wouldnt be classed as weapons Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988087They boarded and impounded the ship and crew. They towed the ship to Israel. They had all night to load up some planted weapons. I'm just shocked at how bad Israel's propaganda machine is. They should have planted rocket launches or AK's instead of the piteous collection of axe handles and toys. By tomorrow, under closer examination, they will suddenly discover something more sinister. |
Sallam User ID: 941980 Canada 05/31/2010 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 those knives werent for making a barbecue!!! Quoting: ~GAIA~GEESH! Gaia, except for one ridiculously strange sort of decorative knife that looks like it came from a flea market or something, all of those knives are kitchen knives. I have the same types of knives in my kitchen, and YES, I USE THEM WHEN I BBQ... Not that I believe this BS from Israel, but even still, every ship has a galley, and every galley has kitchen knives. And I highly doubt that these people are going to bring a stockpile of slingshots and rocks knowing they are going up against commando units with kevlar and M16... If they actually wanted a fight they would have brought guns, not this crap that Israel is planting to try to excuse itself from piracy. |
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TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/31/2010 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Don't worry Gaia, these idiots are only going to attack you more now that they know Trinity has said that Israel was wrong. Stay strong! So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975503 United Kingdom 05/31/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Tiny group? LOL, not a chance! Quoting: TXGal4TruthYou are a FAKE CHRISTAN DINGBAT. You really need to go away. And she is ugly as shite and born by illegal aliens ... total scum and waste of carbohydrates ! And her hubby looks like he has plenty of arabic DNA, too: [link to viewmorepics.myspace.com] Aww Hitler, don't be jealous. Grow the hell up! Jesus! Is is really Christian to use the blessed name of Jesus like that? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 987479 Israel 05/31/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Maritime Law allows interception/interdiction of vessels if there is suspicion that they may be committing a crime. Based on past experience (Remember the Karine A) Israel had a basis for suspecting that the boat may be carrying weapons or components that could be used to attack Israelis. But beyond this there is the statements and actions of the flotilla organizers and the IHH ... And the illegitimacy of the Hamas terrorist government, which seized power by force.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 975904 United Kingdom 05/31/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 The World is turning against Israel, as it is been written in the Bible. People are loosing their senses, the ability to analyze the situation ... What happened is an obvious set up, premeditated and well prepared provocation. It is sad to see that people are buying the Islamic lie, it's sad to see only anti Israeli threads being pinned, and all the threads presenting Israel's side of the story ignored... Quoting: me777well, at first Israel denied it and then they may have realised that it is modern times now ... people have mobile phones and twitter and the internet .... so it has become a lot harder to bullshit the people nowadays |
me777 User ID: 774992 Canada 05/31/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 The World is turning against Israel, as it is been written in the Bible. People are loosing their senses, the ability to analyze the situation ... What happened is an obvious set up, premeditated and well prepared provocation. It is sad to see that people are buying the Islamic lie, it's sad to see only anti Israeli threads being pinned, and all the threads presenting Israel's side of the story ignored... Quoting: Mujahidnah. i think YOU are slowly losing your mind to be honest... That's the only response you could come up with? Not very original to be honest, but typical for someone like you: full time GLP Muslim apologist. If this war, Muslims are so hard trying to provoke will happen, millions of people will die, including innocent Muslim people. Looks like they are up for a mass suicide, how sad... and you are supporting the provocateurs? What just happened had nothing to do with helping people in Gaza, if it did, nobody would object for Israelis to check the cargo and transfer it to Gaza. They refused MANY TIMES, because they had an AGENDA, and they have achieved their objective.. Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 987479 Israel 05/31/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Don't worry Gaia, these idiots are only going to attack you more now that they know Trinity has said that Israel was wrong. Quoting: TXGal4TruthStay strong! Thanks my friend!..now the trolls have back ... |
Nikki_LaVey User ID: 962978 United States 05/31/2010 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Hello... Quoting: ^TrInItY^weapons found!! Terrorists apologists....where are u? sling shots? lmfao give me a break gaia I agree with you on this Trinity ... I didn't see a single firearm ... I see no justification here for the attack! How Can You Be Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere at all |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 839025 United States 05/31/2010 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Early this morning, IDF Naval Forces boarded six ships attempting to break the maritime closure of the Gaza Strip. This happened after numerous warnings from Israel and the Israeli Navy that were issued prior to the action. The Israel Navy requested the ships to redirect toward Ashdod where they would be able to unload their aid supplies which would then be transferred over land after undergoing security inspections. Quoting: ~GAIA~During the boarding of the ships, the demonstrators onboard attacked the IDF Naval personnel with live fire and light weaponry including knives and clubs. Additionally one of the weapons used was grabbed from an IDF soldier. The demonstrators had clearly prepared their weapons in advance for this specific purpose. As a result of this life-threatening and violent activity, naval forces employed riot dispersal means, including live fire. According to initial reports, these events resulted in over ten deaths among the demonstrators and numerous injured, in addition, more than four naval personnel were injured, some from gunfire and some from various other weapons. Two of the soldiers are moderately wounded and the remainder sustained light injuries. All of the injured, Israelis and foreigners are currently being evacuated by helicopter to hospitals in Israel. Reports from IDF forces on the scene are that it seems as if part of the participants onboard the ships were planning to lynch the forces. The events are ongoing, and information will be updated as soon as possible. Israeli Naval commander, Vice Admiral Eliezer Marom is overseeing the events. In the coming hours, the ships will be directed to the Ashdod port, while IDF naval forces will perform security checks in order to identify the people on board the ships and their equipment. The IDF Spokesman conveys that this event is currently unfolding and further details will be provided as soon as possible. This IDF naval operation was carried out under orders from the political leadership to halt the flotilla from reaching the Gaza Strip and breaching the maritime closure. The interception of the flotilla followed numerous warnings given to the organizers of the flotilla before leaving their ports as well as while sailing towards the Gaza Strip. In these warnings, it was made clear to the organizers that they could dock in the Ashdod sea port and unload the equipment they are carrying in order to deliver it to the Gaza Strip in an orderly manner, following the appropriate security checks. Upon expressing their unwillingness to cooperate and arrive at the port, it was decided to board the ships and lead them to Ashdod. IDF naval personnel encountered severe violence, including use of weaponry prepared in advance in order to attack and to harm them. The forces operated in adherence with operational commands and took all necessary actions in order to avoid violence, but to no avail. [link to ht.ly] If people didn't actually die, this would be hysterical. I do not think you can comprehend how other view this incident. These 'weapons' do not equate to the attack on the flotilla. Take a step back and review this situation. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 958734 United States 05/31/2010 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 those knives werent for making a barbecue!!! Quoting: SallamGEESH! Gaia, except for one ridiculously strange sort of decorative knife that looks like it came from a flea market or something, all of those knives are kitchen knives. I have the same types of knives in my kitchen, and YES, I USE THEM WHEN I BBQ... Not that I believe this BS from Israel, but even still, every ship has a galley, and every galley has kitchen knives. And I highly doubt that these people are going to bring a stockpile of slingshots and rocks knowing they are going up against commando units with kevlar and M16... If they actually wanted a fight they would have brought guns, not this crap that Israel is planting to try to excuse itself from piracy. Are you saying that people can't hurt others with a kitchen knife? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 728979 United States 05/31/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 This thing was a "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose" scenario. If Israel did nothing, they lose. If they do something, they lose. In chess, it's generally better to accept a gambit than to decline it, so following that general precept, they acted. Now: GAME-ON. At least Israel does what's necessary for it's survival, instead of committing suicide thru political correctness. |
TXGal4Truth User ID: 864252 United States 05/31/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Tiny group? LOL, not a chance! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 975503You are a FAKE CHRISTAN DINGBAT. You really need to go away. And she is ugly as shite and born by illegal aliens ... total scum and waste of carbohydrates ! And her hubby looks like he has plenty of arabic DNA, too: [link to viewmorepics.myspace.com] Aww Hitler, don't be jealous. Grow the hell up! Jesus! Is is really Christian to use the blessed name of Jesus like that? The real name IS YESHUA. I would assume you already knew that. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 987562 Brazil 05/31/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Don't worry Gaia, these idiots are only going to attack you more now that they know Trinity has said that Israel was wrong. Quoting: TXGal4TruthStay strong! Uh, apparently you didn't read the other threads. But that's okay, everyone here knows you are a self-righteous DINGBAT that live in her own world. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 855840 Denmark 05/31/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 LOL.. if these are called weapons.. I have ocean front property in nebraska I would like to sell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 958734I'm pretty sure anything with the intent to injure another person is considered a weapon. Agreed. But the point is being overlooked. The boat was pirated by armed soldiers. Its not only human nature, but lawful and prudent to defend yourself, particular in that position. Being pirated would usually result in the pirates murdering the crew of the boat and looting the boats goods. And there is evidence to show the IDF opened fire and killed one of the crew before boarding the ship. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 987483 United States 05/31/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 so, they had "knives and clubs"..that could mean steak knives and about anything could be a club. wow, how threatening, had to shoot 19 of them dead and wound how many? more damning evidence, yes it will surely pile up. knives and clubs, in other words they grabbed whatever was at hand to defend themselves from the mini me imperialist regime. |
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jarha User ID: 985865 United States 05/31/2010 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 "What else would you do?" implies that Trinity has become an anti-semite and is ready to attack any Jew. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 987562If the flotilla really wanted to deliver aid, they would have done it as Israel proposed, through Israel. Wow, you really think people were born yesterday? Why does a soverign nation need Isarels approval? Oh right, according to international law, Israel isn't even a REAL nation. Back off loser. It was HAMAS who declared war on Israel, that’s why there is blockade of Gaza. ISRAEL is having all rights to stop and search any shipments to Gaza. |
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dennis m User ID: 931797 United States 05/31/2010 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 and the Christ-haters on this thread defend the islamists the world hates Christ, so they hate Israel great thread, Gaia [link to www.360calendar.com] 360calendar.com is about DEAN COOMBS's first SIGN FROM GOD (that i'm aware of). We've seen many, many astounding SIGNS FROM GOD since then (SEE www.bible-codes.org and www.christian-forum.net). What was God's message in that 1st SIGN? Every SIGN has a message/meaning. It was about the HEBREW CALENDAR (accurate to eternity), on 1-1-2000, which was a day speculated to be Christ's SECOND COMING, lately, we've seen that every time we hurt Israel,,,,Christ attacks us. So, i think, that 1st SIGN was a SIGNAL that we are changing from the "time of the gentiles",,,,,to the "time of Jacob's trouble". I don't think we're in the 7 year-GREAT-TRIBULATION yet, but we're getting close, and God is now teaching us that, soon, the world-events will revolve around the nation Israel. Israel brought into the world,,,,,the Old Testament, New Testament, the Messiah Lord Jesus Christ (God of Israel) ,,,,, many Signs and Wonders, such as God's Love and Wisdom, the Temple, Exodus, Babylonian Captivity, the Return, Diaspora, another Return in 1948ad, and the world's hatred of the Jews and Israel. The OT is a physical picture-story of SPIRITUAL DOCTRINES IN THE NT. The OT is filled with many foreshadows, parallels, symbols, types of NT Spiritual Doctrines. And we learn much by studying these TYPES AND ANTI-TYPES. Israel is closely associated with Christ, and the world hates Christ, so, the world hates Israel. This is a GREAT TEST of our Faith: We are blessed if we bless the nation Israel,,,,God will punish us greatly if we hurt Israel. Bible-believers love Israel, even though most Israelis today are un-saved. Bible-rejectors hate Israel. The OT GOD is the NT GOD (LORD JESUS CHRIST), The 2 Testaments have the same Love (Love thy neighbor as thyself), the Golden Rule. So, Israel has much of the same Light and Love that NT Christians have, even if some Jews don't practice that Love. Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee (ABRAM), and curse him that curseth thee (ABRAM): and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. (GOD USED ISRAEL TO BRING CHRIST INTO THE WORLD) Gen 28:14 And thy (Jacob's) seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed (LORD JESUS CHRIST) shall all the families of the earth be blessed. www.bible-codes.org SIGNS FROM GOD |
me777 User ID: 774992 Canada 05/31/2010 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 Hello... Quoting: the writer chick 844118weapons found!! Terrorists apologists....where are u? sling shots? lmfao give me a break gaia why would they bring them? arent them a pacifist group for human rights? did you see the Molotov bottle at the end? is nothing either? sorry but you guys just fucked up on this one.. and I am an israel supporter but when you gun down people with rocks and sticks and sling shots.. you've totally lost my support these people were in international waters these people were not attacking anyone THEY WERE ATTACKED BY ISRAEL there were NO WEAPONS on these ships if this pile of "tools" "toys" "sticks" and "kitchen equipment" are the best Israel can come up with.. you guys are seriously fucked will you trough us under the bus because of this? all your love is over now? what else would you do? THEY ATTACKED first, while the soldiers tried only to stop the ship. The World is turning against Israel, as it is been written in the Bible. People are loosing their senses, the ability to analyze the situation ... What happened is an obvious set up, premeditated and well prepared provocation. It is sad to see that people are buying the Islamic lie, it's sad to see only anti Israeli threads being pinned, and all the threads presenting Israel's side of the story ignored... Thank you for looking at the bigger picture and presenting it. As I sit here analyzing the situation what came to mind was the scripture which fortells it being hard to know the truth towards the end days - that it would be hard to discern evil from good. Everything that is happening is there in the Bible but many choose to ignore it, which is also foretold. For those of us that study and are possibly the watchmen, this comes as no surprise but puts an enormous load on our shoulders, because we must discern and understand events for what they are, then decide and pray about how to warn people- and who should be warned. For we are not to give our pearls to swine, we are to decide how to minister to those who are willing to be willing, and continue to fight the good fight. For our battle IS NOT AGAINST FLESH AND BLOOD as these incidents would try to convince us. This is only a distraction from the real truth. Subscribe to my blog: Exposing The Darkness End times headline news. Research and analysis of world events in light of Bible prophecy. [link to lionessofjudah.substack.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 988081 United States 05/31/2010 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 i mean, man, you can, like, actually slice onions with those knives !!!!! Quoting: Bazork!I heard they were the really good knives that can slice a tin can and still cut a tomato without bruising the skin! |
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Bazork! User ID: 929725 Turkey 05/31/2010 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Weapons Found on the Flotilla Ship Mavi Marmara Used by Activists Against IDF Soldiers, 31 May 2010 my condolinces go out for the nationals of turkey that were on that boat. Have no worries.. justice will be served. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 740626i accept your empathy, however only 9 turkish nationals were killed. rest 10 killed were europeans or americans. anything that i say except the things i give references for is what i learned and deduced. they may or may not be correct. |